Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Jan 11

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#425189 Dec 8, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>This one has nothing whatever to do with religion of any stripe.
I highly recommend it.
;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =QYgXxIgrXMsXX
OOWWWW!
Did you know that girl is actually a plant? She's a moon flower.

I'm exposing myself as an anime geek.

I'll cover up now.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#425190 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks DoC...I'm now officially a grandpa as of 2:00am.
Have a great day!!
YAY! It's a great day.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#425191 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>Is not how history works. It is an arbitary standard.
<quoted text> Expert historians do. You know better?
<quoted text> BS.
<quoted text> Where are the sources from the time Alexander lived? Hannibal?
Just because there are historians who recognize there was most probably a MAN named Jesus who lived during that time does not mean they believe he was a God, nor that he rose from the dead. No historian on earth who wanted to keep his credentials would ever claim that these are facts.

You make stuff up as you go.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425192 Dec 8, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>...
You make stuff up as you go.
It's all they can do, since learning is against their religion.

Since: Jun 12

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#425193 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
You call it anti supernatural assumption.
I call it religious supernatural assumption.
Your religion requires assumption for it's very existance and validity.
Based on what everyone knows.
Agreed, except perhaps for the religion part. I would add my belief in the resurrection of Christ is best explanation given all we know about the actual incident and it's growth.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#425194 Dec 8, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>He gets a little older, wire him up on sugar, video games and cartoons - and give him back.
Hehehe.
Congrats, Wiggles!
Thank you...now the real fun begins...hehe

Since: Jun 12

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#425195 Dec 8, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Just because there are historians who recognize there was most probably a MAN named Jesus who lived during that time does not mean they believe he was a God,
They believe Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. Crucified via Pilate. Paul met with James in Jerusalem. Paul wrote Galatians.
nor that he rose from the dead. No historian on earth who wanted to keep his credentials would ever claim that these are facts.
i do not know if believing in resurrection is a threat to credentials. Historians who do still work and teach. But you do bring up an interesting point. How narrow minded people in academia really are.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425196 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Agreed, except perhaps for the religion part. I would add my belief in the resurrection of Christ is best explanation given all we know about the actual incident and it's growth.
Still no evidence? Sheesh, you are disappointing, making assertions and never once presenting evidence.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#425197 Dec 8, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>YAY! It's a great day.
The Wiggler's grandson narrowly missed being born on Pearl Harbor day.

Congratulations, MW!

(And don't worry -- you get used to people calling you "Grandpa.")

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425198 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> They believe Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. Crucified via Pilate. Paul met with James in Jerusalem. Paul wrote Galatians. <quoted text> i do not know if believing in resurrection is a threat to credentials. Historians who do still work and teach. But you do bring up an interesting point. How narrow minded people in academia really are.
Really? Where are the papers published and verified about this?

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

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#425199 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Agreed, except perhaps for the religion part. I would add my belief in the resurrection of Christ is best explanation given all we know about the actual incident and it's growth.
If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.
- Voltaire

(Oh, and I can't stand it any longer -- "it's" is not a possessive but rather the contraction of "it is.")

Since: Jun 12

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#425200 Dec 8, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
Still no evidence? Sheesh, you are disappointing, making assertions and never once presenting evidence.
I have presented arguments and evidence. I have no control over the fact folks here ignore or dismiss. I have made the case, time and again. Others have too. Is is then assumed i am trying to convince people here to convert. Why assue that unless they think everything revolves around them?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425201 Dec 8, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
<quoted text>
If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.
- Voltaire
(Oh, and I can't stand it any longer -- "it's" is not a possessive but rather the contraction of "it is.")
Hmpf, your right.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425202 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> I have presented arguments and evidence. I have no control over the fact folks here ignore or dismiss. I have made the case, time and again. Others have too. Is is then assumed i am trying to convince people here to convert. Why assue that unless they think everything revolves around them?
Nope, so far all I have seen are assertions, and more assertions. No actual evidence yet. Your standards may be low enough to accept a book of hearsay and legends as evidence, but those are actually assertions, so where's the evidence that suggests these assertions?

Since: Jun 12

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#425203 Dec 8, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
<quoted text>
If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.
- Voltaire
Fear mongering BS.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425204 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Fear mongering BS.
Erm, what?
Think About It

Magalia, CA

#425205 Dec 8, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Died, like all people.
How did he die?

Since: Jun 12

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#425206 Dec 8, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, so far all I have seen are assertions, and more assertions. No actual evidence yet. Your standards may be low enough to accept a book of hearsay and legends as evidence, but those are actually assertions, so where's the evidence that suggests these assertions?
Historians do not consider the Bible a book of heresay and legends as a whole. They glean certain facts. Pilate,for example. Like I said before. Jesus was crucified via Pilate. Early Christians believe Jesus resurrected. This is validatd history. Many historians do not believe Jesus resurrcted.

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Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#425207 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a grandpa, I'm a grandpa!!!
8 lb baby boy!!!
.. congratulations Gramps! Time to buy a baseball, bat and mitt. Enjoy !!..

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#425209 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is all i am arguing for at this point. Atheist, agnostic, Muslem, worldwide and for centuries before. There is perhaps a handful who are Jesus mythers.
<quoted text> Worry about all the nasty crap you did in life. I would not be Christian if i did not believe He rose from the dead and anyone who calls themselves Christian and does not believe He rose from the dead is deluded and wrong. You are right. Many historians do not believe He rose from the dead. Many here belive Jesus is a fictional character or claim ignorance. The problem many have is explaining what happened after He died given all that is known. Ehrman simply concludes he does not know what happened. He does not believe resurrection happened.
Ah. Another one who thinks he's The Only True Christian.

38,000 sects and rising every day. All of them think you're wrong. Why should we believe any of you? You all make the claim that only you have the right answer, yet none of you agree. Are we to go 'eenie meenie miney mo'? Which is the best way to decide which of the 38,000+ sects is correct?

You won't even get that. And now we'll hear something about that old rascal the holey sprite. Tells everyone what they want to hear.

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