Why I’m no longer a Christian

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#425163 Dec 8, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> I bet he'd even loan you the thingy that you put the hollow points in.
Hehehe. Avec plaisir...

“Peace Love”

Since: Aug 08

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#425164 Dec 8, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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I'm gonna see if I can get some o' those hollow-points from Mac.
Hang in there, Grandpa!
Thanks DoC...I'm now officially a grandpa as of 2:00am.

Have a great day!!

“Peace Love”

Since: Aug 08

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#425165 Dec 8, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>*W_N doin' the dance!* Happy Gradpa day!
I'm a grandpa, I'm a grandpa!!!
8 lb baby boy!!!

“Peace Love”

Since: Aug 08

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#425166 Dec 8, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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<<hugs>> Congratulations!
Thank you NS4M.

“Peace Love”

Since: Aug 08

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#425167 Dec 8, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>Thats great news wiggles!!!!
Hey there Clown. Thanks a bunch!!! It's a boy!! Gotta get him ready for Daytona.

“Peace Love”

Since: Aug 08

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#425168 Dec 8, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>YAY, Wiggles!
My son is a wreck, he finally crashed for the night. Daughter-in-law is doing fine and the baby boy is a cute little bugger...hehe.
Just wait until grandpa gets him going...haha...paybacks!!!

Since: Jun 12

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#425169 Dec 8, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> None of those sources are first hand. We've been through that before.
Is not how history works. It is an arbitary standard.
If you choose to believe that these are 'historical' sources as proof of Jesus, fine.
Expert historians do. You know better?
But they are still second (to 50th)hand sources.
BS.
There is not ONE single writing during the time Jesus lived. Not one.
Where are the sources from the time Alexander lived? Hannibal?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#425170 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks DoC...I'm now officially a grandpa as of 2:00am.
Have a great day!!
Congrats, Grandpa!

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#425171 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>Is not how history works. It is an arbitary standard.
<quoted text> Expert historians do. You know better?
<quoted text> BS.
<quoted text> Where are the sources from the time Alexander lived? Hannibal?
If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.

It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.

“Peace Love”

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#425172 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Congrats, Grandpa!
Thank You sir. I'm already planning my campaign on how to spoil him...haha

Since: Jan 11

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#425173 Dec 8, 2012
This one isn't a music vid. It's the Atheist Experience show. I highly recommend it.

Think About It

Magalia, CA

#425174 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.
It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.


What do you think happened to this Jesus that many Historians agree existed?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425175 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>Is not how history works. It is an arbitary standard.
<quoted text> Expert historians do. You know better?
<quoted text> BS.
<quoted text> Where are the sources from the time Alexander lived? Hannibal?
You mean besides their graves?

“Peace Love”

Since: Aug 08

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#425176 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.
It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.
My thoughts exactly. The line gets crossed when the supernatural enters the picture.

Since: Jun 12

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#425177 Dec 8, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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If you want to argue that there is enough evidence to support the existance of a 1st cent. wandering preacher named Jesus then many historians will agree.
That is all i am arguing for at this point. Atheist, agnostic, Muslem, worldwide and for centuries before. There is perhaps a handful who are Jesus mythers.
It is when you claim him to have risen from the grave, become God and all the nasty crap you did in life is now OK, then you haven't an academic leg to stand on.
Worry about all the nasty crap you did in life. I would not be Christian if i did not believe He rose from the dead and anyone who calls themselves Christian and does not believe He rose from the dead is deluded and wrong. You are right. Many historians do not believe He rose from the dead. Many here belive Jesus is a fictional character or claim ignorance. The problem many have is explaining what happened after He died given all that is known. Ehrman simply concludes he does not know what happened. He does not believe resurrection happened.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425178 Dec 8, 2012
Think About It wrote:
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What do you think happened to this Jesus that many Historians agree existed?
Died, like all people.

Since: Jun 12

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#425179 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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My thoughts exactly. The line gets crossed when the supernatural enters the picture.
That is based on anti supernatural assumption which apply to all events at all times. Based on the less than 1% of all there is to know you actually know.

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#425180 Dec 8, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
This one isn't a music vid. It's the Atheist Experience show. I highly recommend it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =568fJHJdd3UXX
This one has nothing whatever to do with religion of any stripe.

I highly recommend it.
;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

OOWWWW!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#425181 Dec 8, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is based on anti supernatural assumption which apply to all events at all times. Based on the less than 1% of all there is to know you actually know.
Actually, what we do not know is itself an unknown, and that can never change.

We may even know everything there is to know, but would never know that, because what is knowable is unknown until it is known. You can never know what you do not know.

"Anti-supernatural?" You love conflict so much you even have to make up aggressive concepts that cannot not exist. Natural is the opposite of supernatural, putting anti- in front of it doesn't do anything but butcher the English language.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#425182 Dec 8, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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My son is a wreck, he finally crashed for the night. Daughter-in-law is doing fine and the baby boy is a cute little bugger...hehe.
Just wait until grandpa gets him going...haha...paybacks!!!
He gets a little older, wire him up on sugar, video games and cartoons - and give him back.
Hehehe.

Congrats, Wiggles!

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