Why I’m no longer a Christian

[DearthOfCouth]

AnnieJ wrote:

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...I love this and many quotes by Nietzsche...
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
&#8213; Friedrich Nietzsche....

I love to quote Nietzsche too. Brilliant and original mind.

(Would now be a bad time to mention that Friedrich Nietzsche became unbalanced at the age of forty-five and spent the last eleven years of his life hopelessly insane?)

[DearthOfCouth]

AnnieJ wrote:

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My insight in to that "Little Drummer Boy"...
First thing...I always found him a bit creepy...just pa rum pum pum pumming all day.
Second thing...I get bored before his is through pa rum pum pum pumming.
Something about that Little Drummer Boy is just not quite right.
Besides...did they even have Little Drummer Boys back then...I don't remember him being at the manger with the Wise Men...the sheep...the donkeys...
If he was...how did he get there...did he too follow the star?
He makes me uneasy.

Never really thought about it.

But I agree.

Worrying....

[water_nymph]

AnnieJ wrote:

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LOL
My personal motto this year has been...I know I am strange and I am okay with that!

Maybe you shouldn't use the word 'strange'. Maybe eccentric is a good word. People accept eccentric people as being a little to the side of center or what they view as normal without attaching any condemnation with it. I think it's one of those things in the English language that denotes something that isn't quite what it is, but is more acceptable than 'strange','odd', or 'weird'. Just sayin'.

[water_nymph]

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>Apparently he misjudged me as badly as I did him, only in the other direction.
Thank you for the compliment, and you're right - I will not stand by while anyone assaults a woman I care about. Skom should have known that.
I wonder why he didn't?
Now excuse me while I go pour bleach in my ear - I need to get that last image of yours outta my mind! LOL.

Here.....here's a gallon of bleach. But I don't think that's gonna work. I think it'll take an exorcism.

And the reason he doesn't know why you wouldn't stand by and let him insult me (or any other woman you care about in life) is that it is impossible for someone who is so egocentric to do so. It's never about someone else. It's always about them and only them. There is no relationship which can overcome that or undo it.

[water_nymph]

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>*blush*
Seriously, I do not understand people who don't grasp simple "equality".
The concept seems as obvious as daylight to me.

Oh, you poor mislead man! Did I make you say that?*snark*

[water_nymph]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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Here's what I think happened:
Jesus -- if he ever existed -- was an itinerant young Rabbi wandering about first century Palestine, preaching some sort of new doctrine to Jews. The authorities perceived him to be a threat so they put his lights out.
Next, a diverse gaggle of cranks, shamans, spiritualists and one opportunistic Roman emperor cobbled together a makeshift, elaborate fable based upon local folklore, creative theology, pagan myths and old Jewish texts, packaged it all up and sold the whole bundle for political purposes. Rather successfully, it turns out.
Over the centuries the mythology has been enhanced with new inventions like the Holy Trinity and "Little Drummer Boy."
And people like you, for reasons that I do not claim to understand, hear these stories and find the whole thing perfectly reasonable and acceptable.
Unlike you, I claim no special insight into any of these matters and could well be mistaken about all of this. But that's what I think.

I like this explanation. Good job, DoC.

[water_nymph]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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I love to quote Nietzsche too. Brilliant and original mind.
(Would now be a bad time to mention that Friedrich Nietzsche became unbalanced at the age of forty-five and spent the last eleven years of his life hopelessly insane?)

Facts are facts, DoC. It doesn't take away from the writings he did before having this misfortune fall upon him.

[water_nymph]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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Never really thought about it.
But I agree.
Worrying....

Geez. Annie worrying about it made it a little creepy, but now you're worrying too. Should I be on the lookout for little drummer boys as I do my shopping?

[New Age Spiritual Leader]

AnnieJ wrote:

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My insight in to that "Little Drummer Boy"...
First thing...I always found him a bit creepy...just pa rum pum pum pumming all day.
Second thing...I get bored before his is through pa rum pum pum pumming.
Something about that Little Drummer Boy is just not quite right.
Besides...did they even have Little Drummer Boys back then...I don't remember him being at the manger with the Wise Men...the sheep...the donkeys...
If he was...how did he get there...did he too follow the star?
He makes me uneasy.

I loved Stephen Colbert's use of "quoting" the 'Little Drummer Boy" in response to the Pope's new book, stating that animals were probably not present.

I tried to find the clip online, but no luck....sorry.

[AnnieJ]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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I love to quote Nietzsche too. Brilliant and original mind.
(Would now be a bad time to mention that Friedrich Nietzsche became unbalanced at the age of forty-five and spent the last eleven years of his life hopelessly insane?)

Maybe he did not hear the music and dance enough. I think that sometimes happens with brilliant minds.

Now for those of us who love his work...if we understand it...should we worry???

I do think that those who think so deeply do somehow have to keep perspective on life...learn to put those "deep" thoughts away...learn to hear the music of life and...dance.

Just my thinking but who knows...maybe I am wrong!

On a side note...I think the writers of "South Park" are brilliant...scary...insane...b ut brilliant. I often wonder if they are on drugs! They most often portray real life better than real life itself does.

Now...screw you guys...I am going home! LOL My favorite line of Cartman's.

[T-Town Clown]

Did you know that the wrath of God is upon you without Jesus Christ?

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.(John 3:36)

The believer has everlasting life IN Jesus Christ BUT the unbeliever has the wrath of God upon them! Why? Because they are still DEAD in their sins without Christ!

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:(Romans 5:12)

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23)

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:(Romans 3:10)

GET SAVED!

[water_nymph]

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, you poor mislead man! Did I make you say that?*snark*

That should have been 'misled'.

[Skombolis]

Rider on the Storm wrote:

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Pack a punch because they are the truth? Come on Skom, its all built around your insecurities and paranoia.
1'st lie, my business is failing. It's not, to say anything else is a lie. Its alright though, you can continue saying it, it certainly has no effect on me or the business but it says alot about you and your insecurity issues.
What about the girl from Africa who you repeatedly slander by insinuating she's out to con people to get their money? You know who I'm talking about, one of the many you've chased off the other thread. Lie #2.
What about the woman from New Mexico who others have talked with personally and have her personal info but who is to strong willed to let you and the other mysoginist RA push her off the thread.
What about Blind man who was kind and respectful to everyone that you also pushed off the thread.
Truth? You no nothing about the truth..........

The girl from Africa who said her computer was hacked when she sent out a suicide threat from her account and let people think she did it even though there is no password that can be changed on Topix and no way to lock someone out of an account let alone Topix in general?

The same girl who emailed people for money but only claim her computer was hacked AGAIN only when questioned publicly about it?

The same girl who got caught using multiple accounts and claimed she only used multiple accounts to trick people because she knew she wasn't a good liar and would get caught?

You are an idiot Larry. And your desperate need for my attention has waterlogged your brain.

[water_nymph]

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

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I loved Stephen Colbert's use of "quoting" the 'Little Drummer Boy" in response to the Pope's new book, stating that animals were probably not present.
I tried to find the clip online, but no luck....sorry.

I just looked and can't find it either.

Did you know there was a study done to see how people reacted to Colbert Report? Interesting.

Here's Wonkette's take on that survey (and quotes from the survey itself).

http://wonkette.com/408180/wingnuts-who-watch...

[Skombolis]

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text>Then you should also realize that one doesn't have to be the one addressed in order to answer a post. But that somehow totally escapes you.

Just like it doesn't seem to sink in to you how obsessed you look. Do you think it is normal to reply to 8-9-10-11 posts of someone when they aren't even directed to you? And when you post anywhere but here you realize quickly how little you actually know. Maybe people here are just too polite or prop you up. At one of them should let you know you look crazy to a neutral observer when they stop by and have to scroll through an entire page of one person replying to every post made by another even when none are to them.

Mac says I didn't think he would defend a woman he was with. of course I knew he would. So did you. That is part of the reason you kept it up so long until there was no chance for him to do anything than take sides.

I really don't need to say anything else or respond to your latest barrage of posts. The sheer volume alone makes it as obvious as any particular post.

[DearthOfCouth]

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text>Geez. Annie worrying about it made it a little creepy, but now you're worrying too. Should I be on the lookout for little drummer boys as I do my shopping?

They are ~everywhere~.

[AnnieJ]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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Never really thought about it.
But I agree.
Worrying....

Sorry :-(

LOL

[Skombolis]

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>Apparently he misjudged me as badly as I did him, only in the other direction.
Thank you for the compliment, and you're right - I will not stand by while anyone assaults a woman I care about. Skom should have known that.
I wonder why he didn't?
Now excuse me while I go pour bleach in my ear - I need to get that last image of yours outta my mind! LOL.

Of course I knew it, so did she, it is why she kept it up so long that there was no possible outcome but you choosing a side. It is the reason you constantly mentioned your name in posts and claimed I was directing them at both of you when it was just towards her or why she tried to pull you into every conversation. It was the same reason she kept trying to ride your reputation with other posters hoping that would gain her support against me

The whole thing is absurd mac. Yeah I wish it was a situation other than you were with someone where if corrected she feels so challenged that even under the guise of friendship and putting disagreements behifd them will respond with 11 straight posts to someone, half of them claiming the person said things they never did, just trying to start a fight. I am also sorry she is the type of person where someone can't even ask about their son for interested parties figuring there is no way anything bad can come from that only to see her use it as an opportunity to start up again

So yes mac I have known from the beginning as it was quite obvious W-N was never going to allow a situation to exist where sides weren't drawn. But like i said, this is just topix so it doesn't affect me one way or the other all too much. W_N misses the point when she makes the jilted lover comments. Sure I used to enjoy us talking but that really isn't the issue with me. The issue with me is I don't like having to engage you is nasty exchanges. Although I am sure you can understand why I am done letting comments slide.

I really do hope we can at least go our own ways mac. You don't have to like me but i would ask you don't engage me. There is nothing good that will come from it. As for the rest, best of luck. You may think that is sarcastic but it really isn't.

[NoStress4me]

Black Thunder 42 wrote:

<quoted text>Are you saying that my anger with idiots has made me irrational?

LOL! Not irrational. Your post just seemed a bit out of character to me, so I thought I would interject some lighthearted humor with a bit of advice that works for me. ;O)

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I had to post the above link again. It cracks me up every time I watch it. I hope all is well in your slice of the world BT42.

[Skombolis]

AnnieJ wrote:

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I disagree with the Steve.
Faith or lack of faith affects who we are...it is as much a part of us as any other characteristic even though it is an elective characteristic. Based on all of our characteristics affects how we treat others.
Words that are said...good or bad...has a ripple affect...with the possibility of affecting many. We don't give our words much thought sometimes but to those who hear or read our words they have an affect.
Examples...from both sides of the aisle...
1. I like you Annie but I can not respect anyone who believes in a deity.
2. I love you Annie just the way that you are and I will pray that God comes in to your life and changes you.
How can you like someone but not respect them? How do you love someone just as they are but want them to change?
IMO...I see no difference in their statements even though they are on opposite sides of the fence. Their opinion about me was conditional...the condition that I believe just as they do.
Now how that did that affect me...I didn't lose any sleep over it but both statements chipped away just a little at my opinion of either side. It also added to my growing opinion that one side was no better than the other.
Someone once told me that eventually I would have to pick a side...I disagreed but I admit...it might be easier if I did. Problem is...what side would I want to be on...every day IMO the sides are sounding more like each other.
One's faith or lack of faith can not help but affect others...good and bad. It is unavoidable...at least in my opinion.
Steve we all say things meant to belittle others. Things such as...only Christians know how to love...be kind...be compassionate. On the other side...Christians are delusional...uneducated...etc. One uses God to back up their words...the other side uses the lack of a God. Which is worse...IMO...they are equal...they are meant to make someone else feel less than.
Well...as usual...I could go on here until I have no more little characters left...today I think I will stop before my words have an unintended or maybe an intend ripple affect.
Have a great day Steve!

Hey Annie

This is one time I can actually fit my answer in with yours! LOL I can keep this short because I am not saying it is not possible for anybody to hurt others by following their faith. Heck I could give examples myself. My point was I do not do that. I feel very strongly that faith should be personal and also am progressive or liberal or whatever someone wants to call it but feel we have no business regulated morality that is not illegal or trying to push our beliefs on anyone let alone make judgements about people based on whether others adhere to them.

Sure I have lots of faults and people could find most of them easily. One of them however I am quite confident though is that I do not justify hurting anyone by my faith nor do I do anything that does. At least that I am aware of. If someone else feels different I would welcome the insight and i will most likely correct it as I try very hard to never use God or the Bible to justify a personal feeling and understand quite clearly what my instructions are, even if I don't always follow them

(T) Peace