Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Jun 12

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#424900 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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That's not pointing backwards, the evidence still points forward, toward something not away.
BS. If a crime scene investigator come upon a dead body with multiple stab wounds and the knife stuck in his chest. The evidence points backwards to murder.
Also, crime scene investigation is nothing like what you see on TV, it's not scientific, it's barely even investigative. More cases are lost because the investigators didn't follow the evidence and inevitably pointed the finger at the wrong person than are won by these "teams." If you're going to try to find an example, don't base it on TV fiction,
This is what i mean by delusional comprehension. Who said anything about TV fiction?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

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#424901 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You do believe Jesus existed and was crucified via Pilate? I gotta hand it to your nic. Shows a bit of imagination.
I don't have a belief on that one way or another. He probably did, and probably was - but it has no bearing on my spirituality, or my belief system either way.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#424902 Dec 6, 2012
Samwell wrote:
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Actually it really isn't a delusion. You can have both you just choose not too for the sake of arguing.
Assumption and an assertion without evidence in two sentences, this has to be a new record.

de·lu·sion

Noun

1. An idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality,...
1. The action of deluding someone or the state of being deluded: "what a capacity television has for delusion".

Even the dictionary disagrees with you.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#424903 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> BS. If a crime scene investigator come upon a dead body with multiple stab wounds and the knife stuck in his chest. The evidence points backwards to murder.
<quoted text> This is what i mean by delusional comprehension. Who said anything about TV fiction?
That's not pointing backwards, it's pointing forwards, it's evidence that something happened, not evidence that something did not happen. Now, how do you prove that it wasn't murder?

You used a group of people who you know to be faulty more often than not, that makes you stupid. Or you thought the television shows were accurate, which makes you gullible. Which one?

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

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#424904 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
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Having "waaasssuuup" lie to me and then call me "friend" pisses me off.
Ya, you get used to it, but he can sure woo the women.
He's quite the ladies man.
Like the James Bond of the internet.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424905 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> ...It makes fixed historical claims relevent to everybody as it relates to God.....
As does the Qu'ran, Samaritan Torah, Sumerian Tablets, Greek and Aeneid, Library of Pseudo-Apollodorus, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hanaddi Library, Book of Mormon, Elder Edda, Mabinogion, Popul Vu, Vedas, ad infinitum.

What makes your magic book any diiferent ?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#424906 Dec 6, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Ya, you get used to it, but he can sure woo the women.
He's quite the ladies man.
Like the James Bond of the internet.
Hey X!

I didn't know James Bond looked like Alfred E. Newman.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424907 Dec 6, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it is not.
In the oldest bible accounts there is no mention of resurrection at all. Codex Sinaiticus. Vulgate...
And they are totally incorrect in Mark and Luke when it states that Jesus cane from "Nazareth" in Galilee. "Nazareth" did not even exist until some time after Jesus was supposedly crucified...Archaeology has proven that beyond any doubt. That, in itself, proves that the gospels were not written by anyone contemporary(or any direct witness of information of the account), as they would surely have known that simple fact.
Exactly!

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

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#424908 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> More likely an atheist website... don't bring up Murdock.
"In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team." Genesis 1:1-6

Since: Sep 10

United States

#424909 Dec 6, 2012
Burl Ives wrote:
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With an adam's apple like that, you nest use a Norelco.
Ho-ho, ho.
I'm the boss.

An I'm proud of it.

I'm the boss. There's no doubt of it.

Hi Burl.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424910 Dec 6, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Not only that, but "Mary's" bedroom would have been right over top of a gravesite. Yoy KNOW that is strictly taboo in the Hebrew tradition.
Amazing how fast Mark and Luke got thrown under the bus, isn't it?
Note to that as one examines the "growing of the tale" from Mark to Matthew to Luke to John, the Judea changes from a land of Jews to a land of Greeks.
Note, too, that Paul has no clue about Judea, Judaism or, in fact, Jesus. To Paul, Jesus is no more than Hercules. A demigod that through suffering and death is 'resurrected' as a full god.

There is nothing in Paul that isn't fully pagan.

John on th other hand seems to have a fully pagan audience (still) who can't see all the glaring errors in his portrail of Judaism and Judea.

One can not fault the anonymous author of Luke and Acts, he makes it clear in his opening verses that he is simply relating stories he heard long after the events are said to have taken place.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424911 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I still love reading your posts. That was an awesome and very funny analogy. I love it.
Mobster sauce!
I stole the "mobster sauce" from a Big Bang Theory episode. I think my use of it was more poignant than theirs.

Thank for the compliment though.

“xcntrik.wordpres s.com”

Since: Mar 07

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#424912 Dec 6, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Hey X!
I didn't know James Bond looked like Alfred E. Newman.
No? Casino Royale
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture...

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#424913 Dec 6, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Note to that as one examines the "growing of the tale" from Mark to Matthew to Luke to John, the Judea changes from a land of Jews to a land of Greeks.
Note, too, that Paul has no clue about Judea, Judaism or, in fact, Jesus. To Paul, Jesus is no more than Hercules. A demigod that through suffering and death is 'resurrected' as a full god.
There is nothing in Paul that isn't fully pagan.
John on th other hand seems to have a fully pagan audience (still) who can't see all the glaring errors in his portrail of Judaism and Judea.
One can not fault the anonymous author of Luke and Acts, he makes it clear in his opening verses that he is simply relating stories he heard long after the events are said to have taken place.
Ya. Interesting when one views it in that light.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424914 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> OK so you are a Jesus myther. Where is your evidence from history Jesus is based on mythical character? Is this an assumption with no evidence? This ignores the fact 1st Century were anti gentile. They did not copy gentile myth because they were idol worshippers, pork eaters. First century Jews were separatists. You are making assumptions based on selective evidence or no evidence. Two things similar does not mean one came from another.
I have to agree with you on that point. You rreligion was not a Jewish one that incorporated pagan elements. Yours is a pagan religion that incorporated Jewish elements.
It makes a great difference.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#424915 Dec 6, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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No? Casino Royale
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture...
Hahahahahah!

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424916 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> It is an argument from silence. The Biblical accounts are good enough. Esp. Luke 4.
http://www.normgeisler.com/Articles/Bible/Rel...
''Amoung these finds, there is no evidence that contradicts the view that nazareth was a small historic village during the time of Jesus.''
http://www.doxa.ws/Jesus_pages/Nazareth l.html
<quoted text> More BS. Luke 4:16. And He (Jesus) came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the Synagogue on the Sabbath and stood up to read. What is a Samaritan doing in a Synagogue reading from Isaiah to a group of devout Jews?
You don't even know what Samaritanism is, do you ?

Samaritans had synogogues and a Temple at Shilo.
You are basically saying that only Catholics have churches and chapels and that a Protestant can't go to church.

Just another example of your "arguement" being disproved by reality.

In many cases the NT texts aren't wrong, it is the people reading them that haven't a clue what it says.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424917 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> If you are making a claim then you need evidence. No evidence means opinion only. Stop whining.
So where is your evidence ?

Got proof of anythign besides your interpretation of a poorly (multi)translated collection of tales from 350 AD ?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#424918 Dec 6, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
<quoted text>
No? Casino Royale
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture...
That was the best Bond movie...ever!

Since: Sep 11

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#424919 Dec 6, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I just think it is funny that my day comes and goes and I never think of any of the people that seem like they cant get thru a day without think of me. When is the last time I have in8iated a post to any of you? Yet you, Karl, Nympth and a few others just cant stop posting to me can you? Yes it comes off as pathetic and obsessive. See if you can go two days without writing me first or about me. I promise I wont write you first. Although admittedly I wont have to change a thing and you will have to change everything
Hilarious.

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