Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Jun 12

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#424842 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
You have zero evidence from history that your jesus ever existed.
You a Christ myther? LOL!
The bible is a self-contradictory mish-mash of stolen mythology and outright lies, and anyone who believes in a historicized jesus whose roots are in the mythical one is...well, you get the picture.
All the scholars in relevant fields do believe in a historical Jesus, except pehaps two. What you know they don't? Go read Bart Ehrman.''Did Jesus Exist.''

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“B. Hussein Obama---”

Since: Nov 09

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#424843 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
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I have noticed that you almost never answer a direct question, no matter who asks it. Instead, you dodge and then counter-question. Do you really feel that people owe you answers, but you do not owe them any? Are you afraid to try answering? Are you too insecure or too ignorant? What's the deal?
If KittenKoder does not believe in your god or your religion, why should she plan for any mythical resurrection?

[QUOTE who="waaasssuuup"] <quoted text>
i actually DID answer her question, but if you don't have spiritual ears to hear, it won't make sense.
There is no such thing as "spiritual ears." Do not fault others or lie about them because you know your own arguments are faulty, and no one will buy into them.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>i've left off trying hard to explain something to someone who's already rejected it before i finish.
You have done nothilng to explain or answer anyone's questions.

Why do you lie?

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424844 Dec 6, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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it's all true my friend, and i'm sincerely yours if you're at all interested in knowing for sure:)
Why do so many of you christians find it necessary to lie to people?

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424845 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Truth to you is what you want it to be, but reality is that you are basing that on zero evidence, none at all. Until you can present solid, testable, and demonstrable evidence then you have nothing more than wishes. You may hate your life so much as to wish for a second one, I don't.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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why don't you stick to solid, testable evidence? when you declare that there is no god, no eternal life, you're tlaking of things you can't possibly know for sure!
Irony, thy name is Waaasssuuup.

Don't you understand that when you declare that there -is- a god, and that there -are- castles in the sky (as you did to me), and that there -is- eternal life, do you not see that you are making claims that -you- cannot possibly know for sure?
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>i do not tolerate hypocrites nor the lying spirits that pimp them!
You may not be the biggest hypocrite here, but you are definitely in the Top Two.
Marlowe the Wonder Dog

Charlotte, NC

#424846 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Wait, you think she's a bully? Kid, you don't know bullying, you don't even know trolling, yet I bet you call people who disagree with you that all the time too.
You need a shave, dude.
I thought I was hairy.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424847 Dec 6, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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are you a carl sagan cultest, karl?
ya know, he got away with talking about spiritual/eternal things as a 'scientist' only because he denied God while doing it.
satan, like the black sheep brat of every family, wants to spoil everything & everyone! his eternal home is the lake of fire so don't follow him into it!
You are an idiot. You have no freaking idea of what you're blabbering about. All you do is hate and insult those whom you see as your "enemies."

Truth and education are your greatest enemies.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424848 Dec 6, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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His tactics work well with children and convicts with the IQ of children.
He's deluded himself into thinking it's effective here also.
And no, he will never, ever answer a direct question.
I have serious doubts about waaasssuuup's sanity. He makes up the stupidest things, and tries to pass them off as commonly known facts.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424849 Dec 6, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i don't follow YOUR satanic/humanistic rules and that bugs you to no end;)
So, anyone who disagrees with you is satanic?

Well, that sure makes debating really easy for -you,- doesn't it? No thought required.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424850 Dec 6, 2012
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Christ is a myth.
Money drives the myth today.
Preachers rake it in.
Yup!

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424851 Dec 6, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
Y'all have a good evening. I'm going to go curl up and read a good book.
Funny you should mention that.

"I find television to be very educational. Every time I see one on, I go into another room and read a book." Groucho Marx.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424852 Dec 6, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
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<quoted text>What bullying? Where in that post is any bullying? Go ahead, point it out.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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YOU ARE a bully & a bigot against Christianity so all your posts to me have been bullying
I was right; you DO make up your own definitions.

Your porch light is out, amigo.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424853 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
wrote:
They conflict. I've read them.
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> More likely an atheist website.
As I have previously explained, the New Testament is not an "atheist website."

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all contradict each other. I know this for a fact, because I have read them for myself. You cannot change that. Unlike you, I was not told what to believe or how to interpret; I let the bible speak for itself.

“B. Hussein Obama---”

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#424854 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
wrote:
You have zero evidence from history that your jesus ever existed.
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You a Christ myther?
I know your christ is a myth, if that's what you mean.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#424855 Dec 6, 2012
Marlowe the Wonder Dog wrote:
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You need a shave, dude.
I thought I was hairy.
See? Now if I cared about opinions from idiots, that would be bullying. Thank you for providing a very clear and perfect example.

Since: Jun 12

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#424856 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
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I know your christ is a myth, if that's what you mean.
So that is different than Jesus existing. You believe Christ is no God/Man and did not resurrect. But you do believe Jesus existed and was killed via Pilate?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#424857 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
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As I have previously explained, the New Testament is not an "atheist website."
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all contradict each other. I know this for a fact, because I have read them for myself. You cannot change that. Unlike you, I was not told what to believe or how to interpret; I let the bible speak for itself.
Shortest route to atheism.

Read the Bible.

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#424858 Dec 6, 2012
A Former Liberal wrote:
As I have previously explained, the New Testament is not an "atheist website."
Well it is coincidence that both you and the atheists websites come to the same conclusions.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all contradict each other.
Accounts which vary in detail do not contradict. They simply vary in detail.
I know this for a fact, because I have read them for myself. You cannot change that. Unlike you, I was not told what to believe or how to interpret; I let the bible speak for itself.
The historic Christian message being Jesus resurrected. That is consistent throughout the New Testament which contained different accounts, letters compiled based on criteria. The Bible does speak for itself. It makes fixed historical claims relevent to everybody as it relates to God. It assumes God exists and we are accountable to Him for our every thought and action be they offense or neglect. Intentional or non intentional in which there is no court of appeals. It assumes life does not stop post death. We exist after the fact. In direct contradiction to what you believe. People have assumed many of these things throughout Human history, yet you discard them all. What you know that everybody else does not? Are you smarter than the majority of humans? Do you believe men have no souls? Only physical? Do you believe your rights come from men with no souls and not God? Your right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? From men with no souls? If rights are derived from God then these rights apply to all persons whether observed or not. If men then it is up to men and they do not apply to all persons everywhere because it is men who determines what rights actually exist.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#424859 Dec 6, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Well it is coincidence that both you and the atheists websites come to the same conclusions.
<quoted text> Accounts which vary in detail do not contradict. They simply vary in detail. <quoted text>
Your first point, it's called logic, you should use it sometime.

Second point, they conflict. How is where something happened being different not a contradiction? If I told you I went to Europe, and someone else told you I went to Russia, that's a contradiction.

How is a forty day difference, clearly stated I add though I am rounding because I don't want to do math right now, just a "different version?" 40 days, that's a whole month. A lot of things happen in one month, tons of things, even today.

Those are just the ones off the top of my head, which is a bit tired right now. But seriously, if you're going to make something up, at least make sure it follows some form of logic instead of a wild excuse.

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#424860 Dec 6, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Good Morning L,
Jesus: "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."
Jesus said that quite a bit... so yes, it's by His Grace THROUGH FAITH that one is saved... not of works. And the works that is being talked about there is works of the Mosaic Law and there is history as to why the Apostle was talking to them as such.... because in the next verse the Apostle is talking about having good works.
Good works is still works.
In another place, Faith without works is dead. And the works being discussed there are works of love.
Work work work.
So yes, I would say that one needs to continue in Faith, Love and Obedience in order to be saved or they will fall away. the person that endures to the end will be saved.
Earn salvation.
Now if one gets caught up in sin, if they genuinely repent then God will forgive them and they can get back into right relationship with God.
But no, the once saved always gospel teaches differently, so for those of you who once believed in Jesus at one time and now shake your fists brazingly towards heaven... there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. You're saved... hey I might as well party hardy also...
Jesus offers probationary salvation and it is up to us to effect it all because we can lose it. We can violate our probation.

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#424861 Dec 6, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your first point, it's called logic, you should use it sometime.
Second point, they conflict. How is where something happened being different not a contradiction? If I told you I went to Europe, and someone else told you I went to Russia, that's a contradiction.
How is a forty day difference, clearly stated I add though I am rounding because I don't want to do math right now, just a "different version?" 40 days, that's a whole month. A lot of things happen in one month, tons of things, even today.
Those are just the ones off the top of my head, which is a bit tired right now. But seriously, if you're going to make something up, at least make sure it follows some form of logic instead of a wild excuse.
You and water nymph suffer from delusional comprehension so i don't ever bother. But go ahead respond all you like.

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