Why I’m no longer a Christian

[naggaruda]

lightbeamrider wrote:

<quoted text> Seems you want to blame Bush and the Republicans first. To do what you do best. Vilify.
<quoted text> I'M not going to go through all your points in part becuase you cite no references for your claims. <quoted text> You have Romney down as having contempt for the middle class, antiquated views on women immgrants and anyone not white and male. You call yourself a Republican but your posts scream Liberal Democrat. Your posts remind me of an old Republican joke. Why did the chicken cross the road?
http://memegenerator.net/instance/27767121

more bad news

see item number #9; which is not a love potion

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-...

[Catcher1]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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Football or basketball?

U.S. college football.

[waaasssuuup]

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text>Since Jesus taught the Jewish commandments, he would have been speaking of the commandments God gave the Israelites?If you don't know what those are, I'll give you a hint. Start with Exodus 20 and read through 20, 21, 22, and 23. Those are the commandments of which Jesus was speaking.
Jesus was a Jew. He taught the Jewish laws. Why would say keep those cammandments and then at the last moment change his mind?
I don't think Christians ever , EVER think about what is actually in the Bible.

the commandments are good; only problem is that no one has been able to keep them without fail. the Bible (james) says that failure in one point is failure in all.

that's why the world needs an A T O N E M E N T!

you may think you're a good enough person without an Atonement, but the laws says you're not

[waaasssuuup]

karl44 wrote:

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the tax is paid on my take home, but when I buy a social club membership, that club files taxes.
it is long past time that the churches and their parishioners pay their full fair share of all taxes.
America should tax the churches and pay off the national debt

it wouldn't bother me none, unless america only targeted churches and not all non-profit organizations. doing so would be discrimination and bigotry and that ought to fire-up your canadian/socalist indignation....unless of course you're a bigot against church

[waaasssuuup]

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i can see that we've been born morally corrupt and that's why we need to be born-again.
can you NOT see this??? read your local paper.....
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He'll never understand it; he doesn't want to.
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There's your delusion showing itself again. There is no "they say;" *I* said you don't want to understand, you dumb fucker--and I'm right. You DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND, and you prove it with every post. You live in your own world; I prefer reality.

lol - you're so cute when you spaz:)

"I prefer reality"

that's what 'they' all 'say';)

[waaasssuuup]

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:

waaasssuuup wrote:
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seperate yourself from evil spirits, kait, cuz i like you but i'm fi'n to put sum hurt on them;)
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LMAO!!! Why didn't *I* think of that??

it was kinda funny....hateful yes, but funny:)

[waaasssuuup]

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:

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It's only a crime in your head.
You get off on lesbian porn, don't you?

i'm gonna plead the 5th on that! even if/when i do indulge in inapropriate behaviors, it's not like i'm proud about it and seek legislation to force others to accept it.....

[water_nymph]

Prop 8 is Law wrote:

<quoted text>What news sources have you investigated and found to be realible? Perhaps your opinion is based on disagreement and not facts.

I check facts news sources from people who have nothing at stake and therefore don't have to lie.

Every news channel is biased in some respect. However, Fox News lies and admits they lie to garner an audience. The audience they garner is made up of people who never check facts or they wouldn't be watching Fox News.

If you want sensationalism for the sake of sensationalism, Fox News is the channel for you!

[ricoo49]

I find myself at a crossroad once again with do i don't i..i have had things happen to me and even touched by something that i cannot explan. In my past i did't go for any of it but things happen in my life which changed this harden mind. Now i find myself thinking much like i did when i was young..its a nice dream..but come on really..were all going to flout to the heavens after death and while were here we just "hand our troubles to god" as much as i would like to be like forest gump and run around life and not really aware of whats really going on. listen we are the masters of our lives, don't wait for god to help u, don't rely on god to make things better, when we die i hate to say but thats its folks so make the best of what u have now , left, cuz when the lights go out it bye bye..and thats the way it should be and is..its all up to u.

[Marlowes bulletproof vest]

Catcher1 wrote:

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The antidote: Don't feed the trolls.
Scroll past.

Hehehe...

[G_O_D]

waaasssuuup wrote:

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that's why the world needs an A T O N E M E N T!
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Which, according to Leviticus, has nothing to do with belief or Christianity.

Is the OT a pack of lies now ?

Why did God stab the Jews in the back by changing his eternal promise after 4000 years ?

[Marlowes bulletproof vest]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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What you've illustrated here is the lengths you will go to rather than even contemplate the uncomfortable consequences of your fairy tales.
It's more comfortable for you to sit in Sunday School, sing "This Little Light of Mine" and feign moral outrage at those of us who try to think clearly and seriously about these things.
I think you'd better fun along now. Thanks for playing.

Funning along, Wordjerk.

[NoStress4me]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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What you've illustrated here is the lengths you will go to rather than even contemplate the uncomfortable consequences of your fairy tales.
It's more comfortable for you to sit in Sunday School, sing "This Little Light of Mine" and feign moral outrage at those of us who try to think clearly and seriously about these things.
I think you'd better fun along now. Thanks for playing.

I would honestly like to know how a rational discussion starts with an irrational stance? Could any of you involved explain to me how is it thinking clearly to state that the logical outcome of Christianity, is killing our children at birth to keep them from harm? Someone even saw fit to question hickup for being a literalist…. No matter how I try to look at this discussion, it simply reads extreme to me.

[ricoo49]

In this world of sin and pain, we only meet to part again. But when we reach that heavenily shore, we there shall meet to part no more , the joy that we shall see that day shall forever chase our griefs away.

I find that we as humans can't let go..were weak that way..so we need to make believe that we shall see the ones we loved and lost...but its a fools game that i can no longer say that i buy either..its a bet i use to think, with big stakes,believing can give u great power..if u can just let go of all reason and give ur will to him only now i have more than doubts.

[Black Thunder 42]

NoStress4me wrote:

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I would honestly like to know how a rational discussion starts with an irrational stance? Could any of you involved explain to me how is it thinking clearly to state that the logical outcome of Christianity, is killing our children at birth to keep them from harm? Someone even saw fit to question hickup for being a literalist…. No matter how I try to look at this discussion, it simply reads extreme to me.

I think that was the underlying point to begin with...and religionists have gone to those extremes when not restricted by society's laws.

[Dash Riprock]

NoStress4me wrote:

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I would honestly like to know how a rational discussion starts with an irrational stance? Could any of you involved explain to me how is it thinking clearly to state that the logical outcome of Christianity, is killing our children at birth to keep them from harm? Someone even saw fit to question hickup for being a literalist…. No matter how I try to look at this discussion, it simply reads extreme to me.

Well, of course it is extreme, but in light of the extremism inherent in Christianity, it is really not much of a stretch.

Some Christians claim all the time that there message is a warning against eternal torment. Some Christians also claim all the time that those under a certain age get a free pass. Since parents ultimately have no real control over their children at adulthood, and since apostasy is clearly a possibility, ensuring against that apostasy and to the free pass is really not that extreme. In fact, this impulse has been acted upon many times.

Here is a website dedicated to the children of Andrea Yates which is a memorial to the victims of just such a mindset.

http://myth-one.com/memorial.htm

It is your religion. That it can be used to commit these and millions of other atrocities on the orders or interpretations of an imaginary force should cause you to reconsider, not to call those who simply point out the obvious extremists. They are just illustrating one of the vile aspects of the inhumanity of pretending gods exist.

[Dash Riprock]

NoStress4me wrote:

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I would honestly like to know how a rational discussion starts with an irrational stance?

This could be considered tacit admission that rational discussion with a religious person is impossible.

[water_nymph]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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OK, OK. Six weeks, tops.
You can take longer if you have video....

I knew you'd cave the moment she asked. Mens! Haha.

[Dash Riprock]

wadjet wrote:

<quoted text>fYI
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05...
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/obamas-numbers/

You may make the adherents of Republican Jesus' head explode if you introduce facts.

[water_nymph]

DearthOfCouth wrote:

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Gonna do dat.
No kidding.

You won't regret it.