Why I’m no longer a Christian

“The future begins”

Since: Jul 07

every moment

#423802 Nov 30, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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No one has ever been, or ever will by made righteous by the law. If you read the OT carefullly, the whole point is that if men could be righteous we wouldn't need a single commandment.
Despite what Christianity claims, Jesus did not have to be sinless or perfect or a god to fulfill Leviticus....AND.. John the Baptist and Jesus could have traded places. It was only chance that one's throat was cut and served as a meal and one was handed over.
If you didn't follow that I recommend you read Leviticus 16 very closely and without a "preacher whispering in your ear".
"Let those who have eyes see"
I wonder if you'd be interested in Dr. Tabor's priestly thesis re:John and Jesus as prophesied dual Messiah in the lines of Aaron and David? I don't think the idea is original with him, but he makes a compelling case in his book, "The Jesus Dynasty" for Jesus' motivation as truly believing they were not only fulfilling prophecy, but causing it. It's the tragic side to an otherwise remarkable life.

Jesus trivia gleaned from Tabor: Remember, after John is killed, how gospel Jesus kind of thumbs his nose at Herod and drifts out of Perea (where Herod ruled) and back west of the Jordan (not Herod rule)? Tabor points out how Herod's plan was regicide, and the real Jesus was on the lam. He did intend to provoke a reaction, but not then, not there, and certainly not with that two-bit pretender.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#423804 Nov 30, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Hey random lunatic .How nice of you to jump in but I am afraid everything you said is wrong. I dont fear reality and have no set position against evolution. I just know there is no way anyone can know evolution, something that takes millions of years that we cant even tgrace tlo its source, is ongoing. there is no way anybody could know that, even if humans are the result of evolution, that it isnt in its final stage or if not that it will continue indefi8nitely. nobody could possibly know that
"I just know there is no way anyone can know evolution" ... that is far from even being a scientific assertion, that's purely religious fanaticism. We don't "know" evolution, we observe it. Then your last point shows just how little you know about the topic, there is no "final stage," there isn't even a direction. Evolution happens, sometimes it produces good results, sometimes bad, then natural selection causes the bad ones to vanish and the good ones to survive. You need to learn the basics of something before you can even begin to address, and you need to learn all of it before you can even begin to debunk it.

I learned all about your bible, had to as a child, and that's why I can debunk it. You should extend the same courtesy.

“Weak People Blame Others”

Since: Jul 08

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#423805 Nov 30, 2012
If you were a supreme being, why would you waste your time on a civilization which spends more resources on killing people than educating them?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#423806 Nov 30, 2012
Buy American or Drop Dead wrote:
If you were a supreme being, why would you waste your time on a civilization which spends more resources on killing people than educating them?
You are absolutely correct.

If I were a supreme being, I would provide for a happy, friendly, trouble-free civilization.

If there is a god out there, he or she has not done a very good job.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#423807 Nov 30, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Rider, I didn't "piss and moan" about Bush's spending", now did I? I asked a fair question - why did no one bitch about it when that was going on, but got all fiscal responsible ONLY when the opposition took over.
They did. Many conservatives ''bitched'' about it
I also have been hearing for the last four years of these dire things "just around the corner". >>yawn<< You're right - let's talk WHEN that happens. In the meantime, things are far better than they were in Jan '09, after 10 YEARS of waiting for the benefits "just around the corner" that supply-side incentives, lower taxes, and deregulation were supposed to provide.
You go ahead and "wait" for your dire predictions to come true. I suspect Jesus will get back first. In the meantime, I'll look at what DID happen, and vote for somebody to do something different.
So you don't think anything is going to happen. Do something different? You mean like not even doing a budget? Ignoring it all? Maybe it will go away? How does one deal with a huge problem by ignoring it? Does that work for you?

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423808 Nov 30, 2012
Slightly Perfect wrote:
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We're all welfare queens, aren't we?
There's an avatar I haven't seen in a while.

Hiya, SP. Nice to have you back.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#423809 Nov 30, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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You are absolutely correct.
If I were a supreme being, I would provide for a happy, friendly, trouble-free civilization.
If there is a god out there, he or she has not done a very good job.
That is called Santa Claus theology.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423810 Nov 30, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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I find it hard to believe foreigners would break it down into political groupings..........
You American Democrats are alright, but to hell with the American Republicans..........Their double dippers..........
Foreigners do precisely that or very close to it. In Europe, at least. It's the main reason I travel on my British passport.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#423811 Nov 30, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is called Santa Claus theology.
Have you been naughty, or nice?

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423813 Nov 30, 2012
Buy American or Drop Dead wrote:
If you were a supreme being, why would you waste your time on a civilization which spends more resources on killing people than educating them?
Ouch.

Americans, I understand, spend two and a half times as much on health care as the British. On a per capita basis.

Where does all that money go?

Insurance companies. The pharmaceuticals industry. The AMA.

But universal health care? Nope. It's just too darned expensive. Can't afford it.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423814 Nov 30, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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...You get off on lesbian porn, don't you?
Maybe. Maybe not.

Whatcha got?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423815 Nov 30, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is called Santa Claus theology.
Santa, where are my damn presents?!?
Lost In Transition

United States

#423816 Nov 30, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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The waters parted.
Then Jesus walked on the water.
They didn't part, they calmed. Then he walked on them. Pretty much what you'd expect if you crossed the Living Waters by boat, going from the Wilderness to the Eastern Lands. Jesus could have just used the bridge, but the desciples wouldn't have been able to follow.
That's the word on the street.
Lost In Transition

United States

#423817 Nov 30, 2012
Slightly Perfect wrote:
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We're all welfare queens, aren't we?
Gay basher!
Lost In Transition

United States

#423818 Dec 1, 2012
Buy American or Drop Dead wrote:
If you were a supreme being, why would you waste your time on a civilization which spends more resources on killing people than educating them?
Maybe because they need it more.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#423819 Dec 1, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I wonder if I pray hard enough God can find the keys to my Cadillac-ac-ac-ac.....
You oughtta know by now - but at least you can polish the fender.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#423820 Dec 1, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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Maybe. Maybe not.
Whatcha got?
Laffin.

I had a similar thought.

“What do I know?”

Since: Apr 08

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423821 Dec 1, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Laffin.
I had a similar thought.
It's a question that needs to be asked.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#423822 Dec 1, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That is called Santa Claus theology.
santa clause is practice for christian belief

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423823 Dec 1, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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What? Christians don't believe the Jewish Jesus?
Isn't that interesting?
How about the Pagan Paul?
*big hug* to you
*big hug* back.

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