Why I’m no longer a Christian
beijair

Charlotte, NC

#423478 Nov 29, 2012
I was babysan's bitch. He pwned me. Took my thread and beat the ever-loving motherfcuking hell out of me, ran X off the boards, and exposed you all as inept internet losers. We bow before his greatness.

Grovel at the masters feet. Lick the dust from his boots.

Gollum.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423479 Nov 29, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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she thinks it funny
that you make passes at other women, but get tuned down consistently.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i think it's funny how bullies think they have all the room in the world to do whatever....
You think they can only do that as long as they have jesus in them.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423480 Nov 29, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You disrespect women when you lie about them, as you constantly do. Women are not claiming superiority; we demand equal treatment under the law. You are opposed to equal treatment under the law.
You are a misogynist and a hypocrite--and a prick.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"...as you constantly do"
can you be specific?[/QUOTE

By dissing me, Mary Palm, Water Nymph, Love Spell, by condecendingly referring to us as "hon" after we have requested that you stop it. You don't care.

[QUOTE who="waaasssuuup"] <quoted text> "we demand equal treatment under the law"
can you be specific about what's NOT equal for women under law?
Equal pay for equal work. In genral, women make only 70% of what men make, because we are considered to be more expendable; that if we get fired, we all have a husband to fall back on for support--or that we can merely go get married or support.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>it seems to me that most laws favor women in divorce, custody, crime punishment issues and such.
And that makes you wrong, as usual.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#423481 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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't help your position to argue over word choices and that you were actually trying to discuss the finer points of how "evidence" and "proof" work in science, when used in.
Let's not insult our intelligence by making a plea to pedantics.
I asked you for an explanation in laymans terms why you are stating it as a fact...which you are. I in no way was suggesting that how fact is defined be softened nor were your responses allowing for that anyway. you have claimed it is a certainty evolution is ongoing unless something goes extinct and I was stupid if I cant understand that. I think you have nothing even resembling fact or proof to make such a claim. are you now denying you claim was as fact? Lets clarify then, is it possible evolution is not always continuous and may stop at a certain point? yes or no? i think you were quite clear earlier that you stated this as a certainty but i guess i will see what yoU say now b4 pulling up ur old posts

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423482 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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hi there! you're not by any chance judging me & trying to force your standards of morality on me all the while you accuse me of doing that to you again, are you? how do hypocrites live with themselves???
AnnieJ wrote:
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This post to you is written with sincerity...not to represent anyone's view but mine...
I do not write to you the things that I do because of what you believe in nor that it is different than my own beliefs. I write to make you think...to make you dig in to your scripture...to understand it.
My problem with you is that IMO you have a way of making your faith and the scripture that you try to use against us seem slimy and sleazy. You turn a "God loves you" into what seems like a come on to pick up women.
You say that it is just "your sense of humor"...I just can not find using the words written in that book as "humor"...especially when it is used to harass or "pick up" someone.
I don't care if you are Christian...or if you are not. However...when one professes to believe then I am uncomfortable with that person using scripture in such a slimy way. Having left the faith but retaining the parts that I once and still do believe in...I just find it apalling how you use it to behave so slimy.
At times you bring God/Jesus down to your level...a pervert slime bucket...all just to maintain "your sense of humor".
I do not dislike you because you claim to be Christian...I dislike you for how you use your faith...to belittle...condemn...and to further your agenda.
I don't know how Kaitlin feels...I don't know her...maybe she enjoys your posts...I do not know. Yet when I read your posts to her...using God/Jesus/scripture to try and get in to her panties...I am sick at my stomach...as if I had just read some porn site. I find them sleazy and slimy.
I just find no "humor" in how you use your faith.
You might not like what I have written...but it is sincere...honest...and just my opinion.
Brilliant, Annie. Too bad you'll never get through to him. He doesn't want to understand anything; he just wants his way because he's a spoiled little christian.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#423483 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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1. I never once appealed to the word "prove." You brought that into the discussion because you don't like my answers. Why not? I'm just laying out extremely basic science to you. Why do these answers challenge your confidence?
2. Your appeal to "science doesn't prove anything" is a ridiculous attempt at distraction. It does nothing for you. Recall that you first asked me "what is the difference between adaptation and evolution and how do we know which is which?" You did not ask me "discuss how science proves evolution is ongoing, please."
3. I'm going to start again. I slept on it, I think maybe I can explain evolution in simpler terms for you.
Actually the two tie together because if evolution isnt ongoing then there is less of a distinction between that and adaptation it would seem. It is why I wanted clarity. But dont pretend u werent stating it as a fact. why I wanted to know has nothing to do with you claiming something as fact that u cant possibly know

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#423484 Nov 29, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I didn't know her, but I toast to her memory.
thanks! she was feisty! she was beautiful. she will be missed by many.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423485 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you mean how unless i'm conformed into the skeptic's way of thinking i won't be accepted by you?
as much as i like you, that's a deal-breaker for me:(
love_spell wrote:
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not what i said at all.
why must you be dishonest?????
that's a deal breaker for me.
It's what he does; he's a liar for his imaginary jesus, and he sees nothing wrong with it.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#423486 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
You mean, like heart disease because I like salt and vinegar potato chips? Yeah, that's true. We all live with the repercussions of our actions.
The other day i went to the gym before work and stepped on the scale. To my surprise i found i had gained around 25 lbs since the beginning of the year. It was a different scale than the one i used earlier as i joined one of them 24/7 health clubs we have here. The other gym had limited access and plenty more members which made it crowded. So i probably did not gain that much. i liked the fact i was under 200 and now i am more my normal weight.
I, if I can confess to you, LB, need to be less lazy and write a lot more. And more exercise.
I need to read more and get out once in a while instead of laying around on my days off which will probably be few and far between for the next month or so.
Fair enough. You'll have to pardon my earlier posts to you - it didn't seem like you appreciated our agreement on these issues earlier, so I kind of went overboard in repeating myself. Sorry about that.
Well i certainly did notice it. I did not recall if you changed your position recently or if you always suspected Jesus existed or was of the opinion Jesus was myth.
Well, you believe it happened and transcends culture and experience and all that. And you have good, personal reasons for believing it - or, at least, they appear as good reasons to you.
But you know what? Buddhists have their miracles, Hindus theirs, and all other religions, their miracles. Theirs are equally emotionally and personally important to them as Christ's resurrection is to you.
I dismiss all such claims, not just the ones you make. When Buddhist priests immolate themselves, to this day, Buddha does not appear in the sky, despite that they fervently "know" He does.
Hey, what do you think, LB? Do Buddhist miracles happen?
Don't know. Miracles can be subtle. People can change. Stop destructive addictive behaviors and replace them with healthy ones.
What about Hindu ones? Does Yanomami magic work? There's lots of people who "know" these events take place. They know so well that they take place that they never consider otherwise.
There are movements within Christianity where people claim to be healed of diseases and all that but i stay away because it all has more of an intellectual appeal. I enjoyed the Bible studies at first with down to Earth people and the discussions. Also group prayer was a big one for me. Now if i attend church the more memorable things i walk away with is the talent of the young violin player and the beauty of the sounds made through her hours of practice. The biggest churches here are near the College and it is mostly young people. The sermons cater to that crowd so i am somewhat of an outsider in that sense. That is fine because nobody is strong arming these people to attend and it gives me hope for the future.
Isn't it amazing that both you and I don't care that those people "know" their miracles happen? I honestly never lose sleep about it. I don't think you do, either.
No i don't. I can tell you in the past year or so things have changed for the better since i picked up the Bible and decided to give it another whirl. I cannot prove cause and effect. Things worked out better overall than they have in years. That could all change tomorrow or at any time by circumstances that are beyond my control. I don't know where i am going with all this. Not good at chit chat. I did notice your compliment earlier and i thank you for that. i don't have to tell you how smart i think you are because i believe it is obvious to all who read your posts.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423487 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Here you go, condemning people for being born as they are - and including homosexuality in a list of problems.
It's not a problem, it's not a disorder. The disorder is in your head; religion has made you a hater of people whose only difference is to enjoy sexual relationships differently than you. This is a serious flaw in your religion - it promotes hate here, it promotes divisiveness and enables you to marginalize and hurt people who aren't like you.
How can you not see that as morally corrupt?
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i can see that we've been born morally corrupt.....
Speak for yourself, assbite.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#423488 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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1. I never once appealed to the word "prove." You brought that into the discussion because you don't likes nothing for you. Recall that you first asked me "what is the difference between adaptation and evolution and how do we know .
And challenge my confidence in regards to what? In what ego-fantasy world are you shaking my confidence and what do you think you are shaking it in? And lets not pretend this isnt a carry over from the other room where we were arguing over my being offended that you saw nothing wrong with adult strangers walking around naked around children and claimed it was no big deal if children see adult stranger's genitalia because children have genitalia of their own. Your refusal to see this as innapropriate and that it would mAke abuse easier if children are given the idea it is ok for a stranger to be naked in front of them. You want to be pissy here cause you are mad about our conversation there

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423489 Nov 29, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I'm stepping aside and referring all questions to you.
By the way...Excellent...thanks!!!
ahhh, you did good, too, Mr. Wiggley!

You provided a great, succinct explanation.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423490 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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Annie - the entire premise of your letter is that because i confess God & defend my faith, i'm not allowed to have a personality or freedoms to talk about anything else like you and others can. i REJECT that!
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!
What are you, five?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423491 Nov 29, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Few of us are. But HFY is.
She writes from a tremendous wealth of education and intellect.
We're not worthy.
<sniffle>

Hello back to you!

You're more than worthy, young man! Everyone here brings their own expertise to the table.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423492 Nov 29, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
I need to let you guys in on a secret.
Skombolis and I have been engaging in homosexual behavior together. He probably won't call me back, because I'm "outing" him, but he was really rough and called me a slut. I don't care. I can get any guy I want.
Oh, no! waaaaaaaaaaa!

It's always the hotties...

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#423493 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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.......Birth-control is to prevent pregnancy.

Some people believe religiously the only reason to have sex is to get pregnant..........
actually birth control has other uses. some women will be prescribed BC pills to regulate their mensutral cycle.

and some women who take the BC actually up their chances of becoming pregnant.

as for having sex, just to get pregnant.........then why continue to have sex after the child bearing years are over?

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423494 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i can see that we've been born morally corrupt and that's why we need to be born-again.
can you NOT see this??? read your local paper.....
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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My local paper is about the furthest thing you can get from Christianity. Sorry, baby, most Japanese just don't get you people. The concept of being "born again" is kind of silly to us. Just use kata to fashion yourself as a better person.
The only reason why he sees ugliness and hate everywhere is because that's all he looks for. He doesn't want to see good; otherwise, he'd have nothing to bitch about.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423495 Nov 29, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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You don't really expect an honest answer from him, do you?
I'd really like to, SK! I really, really would.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423496 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I may be mistaken if you had been joking before this post but was under the impression it was common knowledge you are gay. it may not be known by other or I may be wrong. But if you are then I personally dont think what you said was offensive. I think it would be if a straight man said it. But if you arent straight I see nothing wrong about the joke as a form of social commentary. It is true some that speak the loudest do so to hide their own procivities or to deny them to self. But you would be wrong. People want to hate the Bible so bad that they will actually go after a guy condemning bigotry just because they dont wantg the Bible let off the hook. I find that bizarre. people on any side of this need to realize there is no justification for hate and that they alone are responsible for their actions. no blaming the Bible and no blaming the guy that points out u cant blame it cause it doesnt allow it
errrr...Tide...uhm...is...not. ..er...you know, he really, really likes women.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423497 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I asked you for an explanation in laymans terms why you are stating it as a fact...which you are. I in no way was suggesting that how fact is defined be softened nor were your responses allowing for that anyway. you have claimed it is a certainty evolution is ongoing unless something goes extinct and I was stupid if I cant understand that. I think you have nothing even resembling fact or proof to make such a claim. are you now denying you claim was as fact? Lets clarify then, is it possible evolution is not always continuous and may stop at a certain point? yes or no? i think you were quite clear earlier that you stated this as a certainty but i guess i will see what yoU say now b4 pulling up ur old posts
Well, sorry about the rudeness, but we were each being jerkfaces last night. I'm always willing to start again b/c there's no need for unkindness.

Next, you seem to be making the claim that science doesn't work in facts. If you are going to set up your requirement as "explain X, but please keep in mind you aren't allowed to present facts" then I can't really do much here.

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