Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Mar 09

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#423463 Nov 29, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Skombolis and I have been engaging in homosexual behavior together. He probably won't call me back, because I'm "outing" him, but he was really rough and called me a slut. I don't care. I can get any guy I want.
Well now how can I trust you after this? You just blew a good thing there buddy...double entendre intended! heh.Seriously though I personally dont care. And I am not going to allow people to twist me speaking out against using the Bible to justify bigotry since it doesnt and bigotry is wrong into trying to paint me as a homophobe. But bottom line is ppl have a right to feel how they do about things. what they dont have a right to do is to discriminate or hate and certainly not in Gods name

Since: Mar 09

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#423464 Nov 29, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Once married, yes. There is "wiggle room" in Judaism and Chrisitnaity for premarital sex.
As for bigotry and hate, that is breaking the major commandments. Strange that people will break the greatest commandment themselves over a lesser commandment that they think someone else is breaking.
I agree with you very much.
It is always easier to point out the mote in anothers eye than to remove the beam from our won, eh ?
I agree it is hypocritical and makes no sense.And not only sins of the flesh are equal and bigotry is breaking the second greatest commandment but Jesus spoke way way harsher about divorce or leading a child into sin or unfaithfullness than he did homosexuality. In fact Jesus said in the book of Matthew that Sodom and Gomorrah would have still stood to that day had the miracles that were being denied elsewhere were performed there as even their unfaithfullness would have accepted them. Anybody who thinks there is a biblical justification is dead wrong

Since: Mar 09

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#423465 Nov 29, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>I think Jesus was referring to adultery, not saying that only marriage between a man and a woman is acceptable. And Jesus didn't differentiate. He never mentions _anything_ about the subject, but you can read that into it if you like.
I dont think I will be explaining the Bible to someone that I believe either got talked out of their faith or pretened to for internet friends. I have asked you not to post to me and see three. If you find you have no self-control or cant respect someone's request then I guess I will just have to ignore future posts. You have nothing to say that I am interfested in hearing
sirrush

Morehead, KY

#423466 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I agree it is hypocritical and makes no sense.And not only sins of the flesh are equal and bigotry is breaking the second greatest commandment but Jesus spoke way way harsher about divorce or leading a child into sin or unfaithfullness than he did homosexuality. In fact Jesus said in the book of Matthew that Sodom and Gomorrah would have still stood to that day had the miracles that were being denied elsewhere were performed there as even their unfaithfullness would have accepted them. Anybody who thinks there is a biblical justification is dead wrong
because

isaiah 19
18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the Lord of hosts; one shall be called, The city of destruction.

genesis 14
2 That these made war with Bera king of Sodom, and with Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, and Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela, which is Zoar.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423467 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Here you go, condemning people for being born as they are - and including homosexuality in a list of problems.
It's not a problem, it's not a disorder. The disorder is in your head; religion has made you a hater of people whose only difference is to enjoy sexual relationships differently than you. This is a serious flaw in your religion - it promotes hate here, it promotes divisiveness and enables you to marginalize and hurt people who aren't like you.
How can you not see that as morally corrupt?
You don't really expect an honest answer from him, do you?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423468 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
Hiding....so science now does prove facts? and you are claiming those examples prove that evolution in general in all species never stops? I just want to be clear that is what you are saying
You are being pedantic here. It doesn't help your position to argue over word choices and that you were actually trying to discuss the finer points of how "evidence" and "proof" work in science, when used in through lay terminology.

Let's not insult our intelligence by making a plea to pedantics.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#423469 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I dont think I will be explaining the Bible to someone that I believe either got talked out of their faith or pretened to for internet friends. I have asked you not to post to me and see three. If you find you have no self-control or cant respect someone's request then I guess I will just have to ignore future posts. You have nothing to say that I am interfested in hearing
So ignore her posts.

Ignore mine too.
beijairs unemployed witch

Charlotte, NC

#423470 Nov 29, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>May I ask what you do for a living that allows you to be here so many hours?
Same as you. Freeloading welfare recipient.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423471 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
homosexuality IS morally corrupt.
i guess we both gotta do what we gotta do....
No, it is not. Here you are proving yourself a bigot and that you condemn people who are not like you.

I really don't have to do much to demonstrate your immorality - you're kind enough to lay it down on the table for us. Well, at least you're honest.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423472 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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c'mon kait, based on your own rationale; how can a theory including a hypothesis involvng billions of years be 'proven' without a billions of years frame of reference testing and documenting??? you got yourself a crazy-ass belief system there that has NO merit
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Are you ever going to learn how science works?
If you cannot learn how science works, as it appears, will you ever just accept what scientists tell you about their disciplines of knowledge?
He doesn't want to learn how science works. Thinking makes his brain hurt. He thinks science a religion, to be denigrated for not being christian.

He's an idiot.

Speaking of idiots, did you hear O'Reilly declaring on his show last night that christianity is *not* a religion? God's balls, he's an asshole!!
Marlowes bulletproof vest

Charlotte, NC

#423473 Nov 29, 2012
I need a job, too.

Since: Mar 09

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#423474 Nov 29, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed.
Social commentry in the form of a joke often is.
I may be mistaken if you had been joking before this post but was under the impression it was common knowledge you are gay. it may not be known by other or I may be wrong. But if you are then I personally dont think what you said was offensive. I think it would be if a straight man said it. But if you arent straight I see nothing wrong about the joke as a form of social commentary. It is true some that speak the loudest do so to hide their own procivities or to deny them to self. But you would be wrong. People want to hate the Bible so bad that they will actually go after a guy condemning bigotry just because they dont wantg the Bible let off the hook. I find that bizarre. people on any side of this need to realize there is no justification for hate and that they alone are responsible for their actions. no blaming the Bible and no blaming the guy that points out u cant blame it cause it doesnt allow it

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423475 Nov 29, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> You must have lost your day job and had to get one on second shift where you can steal from yet another employer.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
hi there! you're not by any chance judging me & trying to force your standards of morality on me all the while.....
.....while you're doing it to her?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#423476 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>You are the one moving the goalpost. you originally said science doesnt prove facts. But it would seem when you believe something suddenly it does. and things you cant possibly know. However when I have the time I will check out your links and the counter-arguments to them as i would love to see how someone can guarantee a future evolution millikonss of years from now barring existinction.
1. I never once appealed to the word "prove." You brought that into the discussion because you don't like my answers. Why not? I'm just laying out extremely basic science to you. Why do these answers challenge your confidence?

2. Your appeal to "science doesn't prove anything" is a ridiculous attempt at distraction. It does nothing for you. Recall that you first asked me "what is the difference between adaptation and evolution and how do we know which is which?" You did not ask me "discuss how science proves evolution is ongoing, please."

3. I'm going to start again. I slept on it, I think maybe I can explain evolution in simpler terms for you.

“orally fixated”

Since: Aug 07

Allentown, PA

#423477 Nov 29, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure I read a survey that showed 98% of Catholic women reported utilizing birth control goods and services in their lifetime.
So.....really, it's just a gaggle of pious men of the Lord that's been offended, and this is one way o'keepin' them wanton daughters of Eve in check.
I wonder if they'd cover burkas? To prevent sunburn, of course........
Well played, sir.
beijair

Charlotte, NC

#423478 Nov 29, 2012
I was babysan's bitch. He pwned me. Took my thread and beat the ever-loving motherfcuking hell out of me, ran X off the boards, and exposed you all as inept internet losers. We bow before his greatness.

Grovel at the masters feet. Lick the dust from his boots.

Gollum.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423479 Nov 29, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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she thinks it funny
that you make passes at other women, but get tuned down consistently.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i think it's funny how bullies think they have all the room in the world to do whatever....
You think they can only do that as long as they have jesus in them.

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423480 Nov 29, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You disrespect women when you lie about them, as you constantly do. Women are not claiming superiority; we demand equal treatment under the law. You are opposed to equal treatment under the law.
You are a misogynist and a hypocrite--and a prick.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"...as you constantly do"
can you be specific?[/QUOTE

By dissing me, Mary Palm, Water Nymph, Love Spell, by condecendingly referring to us as "hon" after we have requested that you stop it. You don't care.

[QUOTE who="waaasssuuup"] <quoted text> "we demand equal treatment under the law"
can you be specific about what's NOT equal for women under law?
Equal pay for equal work. In genral, women make only 70% of what men make, because we are considered to be more expendable; that if we get fired, we all have a husband to fall back on for support--or that we can merely go get married or support.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>it seems to me that most laws favor women in divorce, custody, crime punishment issues and such.
And that makes you wrong, as usual.

Since: Mar 09

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#423481 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
't help your position to argue over word choices and that you were actually trying to discuss the finer points of how "evidence" and "proof" work in science, when used in.
Let's not insult our intelligence by making a plea to pedantics.
I asked you for an explanation in laymans terms why you are stating it as a fact...which you are. I in no way was suggesting that how fact is defined be softened nor were your responses allowing for that anyway. you have claimed it is a certainty evolution is ongoing unless something goes extinct and I was stupid if I cant understand that. I think you have nothing even resembling fact or proof to make such a claim. are you now denying you claim was as fact? Lets clarify then, is it possible evolution is not always continuous and may stop at a certain point? yes or no? i think you were quite clear earlier that you stated this as a certainty but i guess i will see what yoU say now b4 pulling up ur old posts

“You Can't Throw MeTo TheWolves”

Since: May 10

THEY COME WHEN I CALL

#423482 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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hi there! you're not by any chance judging me & trying to force your standards of morality on me all the while you accuse me of doing that to you again, are you? how do hypocrites live with themselves???
AnnieJ wrote:
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This post to you is written with sincerity...not to represent anyone's view but mine...
I do not write to you the things that I do because of what you believe in nor that it is different than my own beliefs. I write to make you think...to make you dig in to your scripture...to understand it.
My problem with you is that IMO you have a way of making your faith and the scripture that you try to use against us seem slimy and sleazy. You turn a "God loves you" into what seems like a come on to pick up women.
You say that it is just "your sense of humor"...I just can not find using the words written in that book as "humor"...especially when it is used to harass or "pick up" someone.
I don't care if you are Christian...or if you are not. However...when one professes to believe then I am uncomfortable with that person using scripture in such a slimy way. Having left the faith but retaining the parts that I once and still do believe in...I just find it apalling how you use it to behave so slimy.
At times you bring God/Jesus down to your level...a pervert slime bucket...all just to maintain "your sense of humor".
I do not dislike you because you claim to be Christian...I dislike you for how you use your faith...to belittle...condemn...and to further your agenda.
I don't know how Kaitlin feels...I don't know her...maybe she enjoys your posts...I do not know. Yet when I read your posts to her...using God/Jesus/scripture to try and get in to her panties...I am sick at my stomach...as if I had just read some porn site. I find them sleazy and slimy.
I just find no "humor" in how you use your faith.
You might not like what I have written...but it is sincere...honest...and just my opinion.
Brilliant, Annie. Too bad you'll never get through to him. He doesn't want to understand anything; he just wants his way because he's a spoiled little christian.

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