Why I’m no longer a Christian

Since: Jul 08

New York, NY

#423416 Nov 29, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I'm no expert on evolution either however...
Few of us are. But HFY is.

She writes from a tremendous wealth of education and intellect.

We're not worthy.

Since: Jul 08

New York, NY

#423417 Nov 29, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I'm no expert on evolution either however...
Each word, evolution and adaptation, can stand on their own as individual concepts with unique and also similar qualities. The diversity and yet similarity of the many species here on Earth speaks for this.
There would be no Logical reason to combine the 2 words as each one compliments the other.
Actually, the use of the word “adapt” instead of evolution rather sounds like a cushy way to allow a religious curve that’s acceptable to religious folks.
Just sayin’…IMHO…
PS: Good to read you again.

I haven't been around much, but I have missed your posts.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#423418 Nov 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Adaptation is the product of evolution. It is the mechanism by which bodies solve problems. I wrote this above, but I'll try to clarify here.
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No. You're confusing genetic change with developmental plasticity.
The snake example - and we're talking species here, over millions of years - is an example of some genes going extinct while new ones evolve (in gene pools, over time).
The "raise your kids at high altitude" ex. is one of developmental plasticity (that is itself a product of evolution).
All species have windows of homeostasis - parameters within which they can function. These are adaptations - the normal range is what species are adapted for. At the extremes of the range is where individuals can no longer adapt, their bodies are pushed to the limits, and some individuals die w/out reproducing.
So, you raise a child in California - no problem, good conditions. You raise your second child at Machu Pichu - you have all kinds of problems here, b/c you're a lowlander. The child may or may not do find, depending on genetics and development, but s/he will be pushed to the limit of his/her adaptive response to developing at altitude. S/he will have developmental adaptations you do not posses because those are within the range of human development. However, at the limits, some children will do better, some worse and, over long periods of time, those who do better because of genetic advantages will out-reproduce others.
Natural selection produces adaptation. Where adaptation fails (at the edge of homeostasis) is where natural selection produces more adaptation - to specific environments.
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Evolution is ongoing. It never stops. Mutation never stops. Every generation has new mutations and slightly different environments. These cause evolution. All species are still evolving. When they stop evolving, they are extinct. Humans and snakes are yet evolving.
I'm sorry, you don't seem to understand evolution very well. That's not your fault - there's a lot of disinformation around. You have to be more specific in how you understand it. Start with evolution is "allelic frequency change in gene pools, over time" and work your way up.
I'm stepping aside and referring all questions to you.

By the way...Excellent...thanks!!!

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#423419 Nov 29, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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You mean count our blessings and name them one by one???
Okay...I will go first...
The First Amendment includes all of us...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (meaning that our government has no say in what religion that you nor I must follow)
or
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; (just think...this allows us to say or write (in the case of Topix) our opinions...even if they differ that someone elses)
or
the right of the people peaceably to assemble,(giving us the right to assemble here on this internet site and discuss our views)
and
to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.(aaaah...if our rights (or blessings) are being trampled upon we can take it to the government)
For all of the above...I am blessed.
Now as far as China and other utopias (where ever those are) why would anyone have to travel so far when we have all of those rights here in the US as outlined in the First Amendment.
Now for a few more blessings...
I have access to the internet and a computer in order to exercise that First Amendment.
I have vision to read your post complaining about others exercising their First Amendment rights...I won't however tell you to move to China and those other utopias (where they might be) since that First Amendment also applies to you.
I have many other blessings but I will turn it over to someone else...
So...I leave you with this...
Count Your Blessings Instead of Sheep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uBaP4UmDF14XX&feature=fvw rel
Annie I do count my blessings everyday, and one of them is thanking the Good Lord, I was not born in an atheist based country that has no tolerance for those that disagree with them. I am not complaining. I am sure the souls of those that live in these "spiritually challenged" places requested to be there. Why? I don't get that, but neither does your soul. Ooops i forgot you do know yourself, and you will tell me you have no soul. Oh so be that too.

Since: Jul 08

New York, NY

#423420 Nov 29, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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You mean count our blessings and name them one by one???
Okay...I will go first...
The First Amendment includes all of us...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; (meaning that our government has no say in what religion that you nor I must follow)
or
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; (just think...this allows us to say or write (in the case of Topix) our opinions...even if they differ that someone elses)
or
the right of the people peaceably to assemble,(giving us the right to assemble here on this internet site and discuss our views)
and
to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.(aaaah...if our rights (or blessings) are being trampled upon we can take it to the government)
For all of the above...I am blessed.
Now as far as China and other utopias (where ever those are) why would anyone have to travel so far when we have all of those rights here in the US as outlined in the First Amendment.
Now for a few more blessings...
I have access to the internet and a computer in order to exercise that First Amendment.
I have vision to read your post complaining about others exercising their First Amendment rights...I won't however tell you to move to China and those other utopias (where they might be) since that First Amendment also applies to you.
I have many other blessings but I will turn it over to someone else...
So...I leave you with this...
Count Your Blessings Instead of Sheep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uBaP4UmDF14XX&feature=fvw rel
Bam!

Oh. And I love Bing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Jul 08

New York, NY

#423421 Nov 29, 2012
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Annie I do count my blessings everyday, and one of them is thanking the Good Lord, I was not born in an atheist based country that has no tolerance for those that disagree with them. I am not complaining. I am sure the souls of those that live in these "spiritually challenged" places requested to be there. Why? I don't get that, but neither does your soul. Ooops i forgot you do know yourself, and you will tell me you have no soul. Oh so be that too.
Overruled. Argumentative.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#423427 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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if you like how good christianity is, why aren't you christian?
c'mon....show us all how it's really supposed to look instead of just being a hypocrite & criticizing others.
i.e., PUT UP OR SHUT THE HAAAEL UP!!!
LOL Keep trying Wasup...maybe one day you will get it.

Now who is trying to be whose boss?

I think the truth is making you just a wee bit angry.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#423429 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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well i guess if all y'all didn't judge & condemn, it wouldn't be measured back to you accordingly. i can't change the spiritual/moral laws that are naturally in place.....
Once more you have used this verse erroneously...does not you Bible tell you that God will be the one to do the "measuring"?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423430 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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LOL, I am not the failed businessman who has spent over a year following me around to argue on an Internt chat-room. I think literally one single post in over a year did I write you first. other than that you just follow and follow and follow.
My brother runs his own business and made well over 6 figures last year and I know he would look at me like i was crazy if I asked him if he had the time to do what you do and play on the internet and engage in year long internet grudges. But he runs a successful business.
It is ok that you have all this free time because your business is doing terrible. Some people just aren't gifted with the know-how to run their own business. I am glad I don't have to as I earn a decent living and will be going to work in a few hours. Enjoy your soap operas and bon-bons and stalking people on Topix. Apparently you have the time!
May I ask what you do for a living that allows you to be here so many hours?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423431 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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I guess that's one way to not answer!
When you wake up, my question will still be here!
Good grief, Skom. People don't sleep on a schedule you have prepared for them. What about the times you have to leave a question unanswered so you can sleep? Would you say you're avoiding answering simply because you need sleep?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#423432 Nov 29, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Bam!
Oh. And I love Bing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uBaP4UmDF14XX&feature=fvw rel
:-)

For you...I don't know what it says...but I love the way it sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423434 Nov 29, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Well it is said in galatians and it is also said by Jesus the marriage bed is to be kept sacred between husband and wife. You know i personally dont care but there is no biblical justification for bigotry and hate
I think Jesus was referring to adultery, not saying that only marriage between a man and a woman is acceptable. And Jesus didn't differentiate. He never mentions _anything_ about the subject, but you can read that into it if you like.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423435 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i'm not pushing the bible or anything on you, w_n, so why are you trying to tell me what to do?
You're the one who said you follow the teachings of the Bible. Since you don't, I have every right to tell you that you don't. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423436 Nov 29, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"...when people show you how you are not following..."
okay, sure - then don't go there & i won't say what i really think of you!
I'll go there every time you claim one thing and do another.

Feel free to say anything you like about me. Your opinion of me is none of my business.

I would have to have at least a minuscule amount of respect for you for your opinion to matter at all.

Since: Jul 08

New York, NY

#423437 Nov 29, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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:-)
For you...I don't know what it says...but I love the way it sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =L7g_8i57gu8XX
It's an acquired taste.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423438 Nov 29, 2012
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Annie I do count my blessings everyday, and one of them is thanking the Good Lord, I was not born in an atheist based country that has no tolerance for those that disagree with them. I am not complaining. I am sure the souls of those that live in these "spiritually challenged" places requested to be there. Why? I don't get that, but neither does your soul. Ooops i forgot you do know yourself, and you will tell me you have no soul. Oh so be that too.
How do you know Annie will tell you she has no soul? I've never once heard her make such a claim.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423439 Nov 29, 2012
Some Stoner Dude wrote:
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I laughed at the way waaasssuuup ended his post: "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!" Just like a spoiled seven-year-old. And this is the guy who thinks he can bring people to his christ.
Evidently also the 'good *true* Christian' who thinks that he'll get a married woman to have sex with him. Yeah, the women here are just falling at his feet.*snark*

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#423440 Nov 29, 2012
I need to let you guys in on a secret.

Skombolis and I have been engaging in homosexual behavior together. He probably won't call me back, because I'm "outing" him, but he was really rough and called me a slut. I don't care. I can get any guy I want.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#423441 Nov 29, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
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It's an acquired taste.
You didn't like it?

:-(
beijair

Charlotte, NC

#423442 Nov 29, 2012
I was babysan's bitch. He pwned me. Took my thread and beat the ever-loving motherfcuking hell out of me, ran X off the boards, and exposed you all as inept internet losers. We bow before his greatness.

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