Why I’m no longer a Christian

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423199 Nov 28, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
hold on thar for a minute!
i've NEVER picked up a woman thru the internet or any other way since i've been married. if you're referring to my sense of humor, i reserve the right to keep it, thank you very much and it's much less malicious and blatantly insulting than yours!
If you haven't picked up any woman on the internet, it's not because you haven't tried. You have, time and time again. It's just that you got no takers because every female here knows they wouldn't want to even be in the same city with you, much less on a date of any sort.

You have no sense of humor. All you have is your misogyny. Don't confuse the two.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#423200 Nov 28, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
4.5 billion years makes logical sense considering the evidence presented. You just swallowed a random number generated by people who thought pi was 3. 6K doesn't make any sense, it doesn't fit anything, it defies logic, and has no evidence, zero evidence, supporting it.
are you a man? A woman? or a Hermaprodite?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#423201 Nov 28, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
No he didn't. He's a myth.
history and prophecy says you're wrong. but, what do you care, you belong to the religion of 'THEY-SAY'; whatever 'they' say, you'll believe!

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#423202 Nov 28, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
now ladies, there's no need to fight over me cuz there's enough of wsup to go around;)
they wants you waaasssuuup

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423203 Nov 28, 2012
Anti-Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you even know who or what the Pharisee and Sadducee were? Please explain.
I would suggest you just go ahead and give him the information as I don't think he really knows anything about the Bible at all.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#423204 Nov 28, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
So is this christian pastor (John White) that reads from the same bible as you, believes in the same god-being as you, prays like you do, believes in a heaven and a hell like you do, and on and on...is he forgiven by your god-being and saved by your christ-being? That is of course if he prays and begs for forgiveness from your god-being.
<quoted text>
Yeah; exactly like you.
<quoted text>
Sins do not exist for those outside of your cult.
all i can say is that i admire your tenacity; little to no logic involved, but very cute tenacity - lol:)

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423205 Nov 28, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
its' funny how the Bible remains on the best seller list ALWAYS but books about zeus don't! in fact, i can't even find a church of zeus in my city, but i can't swing a dead cat & not hit one that teaches about Jesus!
no excuses, kait, and i'm just prepping you for your day in court.
The Bible stays on the 'best seller' list because so many churches purchase copies to give away and no other reason.

Using book sales as a reason to believe is rather inane, don't you think?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423206 Nov 28, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"Yet you don't live by that yourself"
huh??? how many times now have i told you that i like you, i think you're funny, beautiful, cool, that i wish you eternal blessing...etc only to have you return evil for good?
"Pagans were around long before you christians"
pagans were around since adam & eve turned pagan, hid from God and wore the first pagan costume, the fig leaf! your point?
How can someone hide from an all-knowing deity? That's crazy stuff right there.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#423207 Nov 28, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>Of course you are. There is no brain to separate them.
<quoted text>
YOu are the one who denigrates people who use their brains; you should be proud not to have that "gray mush," as you call it, between your ears.
<quoted text>
You don't believe in honest communication; all you believe in is your jesus/ego.
lmao:)

you like that 'lil grey blob' analogy huh?

the brain is just a vehicle for sending & reading impulses through our body, storing memory and for some cognative thinking. the mind & soul, however, determine our character and how we act.

brain function deteriorates with the body, but the soul can get stronger and brighter as time goes on.

which do you think we should put more stock in?:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#423208 Nov 28, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
And there are few people here more self-righteous than you.
You disgust me.
c'mon kait, really?:(

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#423209 Nov 28, 2012
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
it turns out that people wind up just as dead, regardless who kills them.
christianity is a failed moral system
how dare you try to push your immoral religion of eternal extinction in here; don't you know that there could be children listening???

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423210 Nov 28, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
The mystery of the gospel is God’s message of salvation for the dispensation of the grace of God. The mystery of the gospel included revelation referred to as the “mystery of godliness”(I Tim. 3:15-16). The gospel message is the good news of salvation.
WOW!!

AMAZING!!

Finally someone who has discovered the answers to the "mysteries of the gospels".

Where have you been all this time? Why haven't you been on national TV exclaiming that these mysteries have been resolved?

In truth, your speculation [personal interpretation] is actually beginning to show your arrogance. You may want to put it in check.

Yes - arrogance. You have been then only one on this forum who has claimed to understand the "mysteries of the gospel", therefore, they are no longer mysteries, since you resolved the "mystery", as you have done.

Please provide support for your conclusion.

Thanks in advance!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#423211 Nov 28, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
c'mon kait, really?:(
You must have lost your day job and had to get one on second shift where you can steal from yet another employer.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423212 Nov 28, 2012
Anti-Christ wrote:
More tidbits:
God Lied: The Serpent Told the Truth
Genesis 2:16-17(KJV):
<<snipped to respond>>
I agree, because your response is in line with this ancient text:

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-long.htm...

NOTE the last paragraph...

20 And the Rulers took him and they placed him in paradise. And they said to him,'Eat that is in idleness. For indeed their delight is bitter and their beauty is licentious. For their delight is deception and their trees are impiety. And their fruit is an incurable poison and their promise is death. And in the midst of paradise, they planted the tree of their life.

But I, I will teach you what the mystery of their life is, the plan they made with each other, the likeness of their spirit.

Its root is bitter and its branches are deaths. Its shade is hate and deception dwells in its leaves. And its blossom is the anoint­ment of evil. And its fruit is death, and desire is its seed, and it blossoms from the darkness. The dwelling place of those who taste from it is Hades, and the dark is their resting place.

But what they call 'the tree of the knowledge of what is good and evil' is the Epinoia of the light. They (the rulers) remained in front of it in order that he might not look up to his fullness and come to know the nakedness of his shamefulness. But as for me, I set them right so that they would eat."

And I said to the Savior, "Lord, was it not the snake who taught Adam so that he would eat?"

The Savior laughed and said, "The snake taught them to eat from a wicked desire to sow which belongs to destruction, in order that he (Adam) would become useful to it. And it knew that he was dis­obedient to it because the light of Epinoia dwelled in him, making him more correct in his thinking than the Chief Ruler.

21 And he wanted to bring out the power which he had given to him. And he brought a trance upon Adam."

And I said to the Savior, "What is the trance?"

He said, "It is not as Moses wrote as you heard. For he said in his first book that he laid him down in sleep, but rather it concerned his sensibility. For indeed it is said by the prophet,'I will make their hearts heavy so that they might neither give heed nor see.'

Then the Epinoia of the light hid in him.

And the Chief Ruler wanted to bring her from his rib. But the Epinoia of the light is not graspable. Although the dark pursued her, it did not lay hold of her.

And he brought forth a part of his power from him (Adam). And he created another molded form in a woman's shape according to the image of Epinoia who had appeared to him. And into the molded form of womanhood he put the part which he had taken from the power of the human— not 'his rib' as Moses said. And he saw the woman beside him.

Immediately, the luminous Epinoia appeared for she had uncovered the veil which had been on his understanding. He became sober from the drunkenness of the darkness and he recognized his likeness. And he said,'Now this is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. Because of this, man will leave his father and his mother and he will cling to his wife and they will no longer be two but a single flesh.' For his partner will be sent to him and he will leave his father and his mother.

It is our sister Sophia who came down in innocence in order that she might correct her deficiency. Because of this she was called Zoe (Life), the mother of the living by Pronoia of the au­thority of heaven and [...] to him [...]. And through her they tasted the perfect knowledge.

In the form of an eagle, I appeared on the tree of knowledge, which is the Epinoia from the pure, luminous Pronoia, so that I might teach them and awaken them from the depth of the sleep. For they were both in a fallen state and they recognized their na­kedness. Epinoia appeared to them as light, awakening their thought.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423213 Nov 28, 2012
Anti-Christ wrote:
More tidbits:
God Lied: The Serpent Told the Truth
Genesis 2:16-17(KJV):
And the LORD God commanded the man, saying,“Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”
I had to use the New King James Version of the bible for this passage because to scholars, this passage is so blatantly wrong that in subsequent versions it was changed to cover the fact that God lied. For instance, in the NIV the passage reads:
“You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.” Genesis 2:16-17(NIV)
Notice the the phrase “for in the day that you eat “was changed to “for when you eat from it “. The word “day” has been omitted because, contrary to what God said, Adam did NOT die the DAY he ate the fruit, just as the serpent said in Genesis 3:1-5:
“Has God indeed said,‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent,“We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said,‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’” Then the serpent said to the woman,“You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
First notice the woman did not relay Gods exact words. She omitted then added. She omitted by saying “God has said,‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’” when God actually said “…for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Then she added by saying “nor shall you touch it, lest you die” which God did not say. At any rate, God’s warning that “…for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” did not come to pass. Adam lived for 930 years (Genesis 5:5). So in this sense God lied because Adam did not die the day he ate of the fruit, and the serpent told the truth because not only did Adam live well beyond the day he ate, he also acquired the knowledge of good and evil just as the serpent said he would. In fact God himself later gave this same knowledge of good and evil to man in the form of the Torah.
and this passage also confirms what you say:

"The Savior laughed and said, "The snake taught them to eat from a wicked desire to sow which belongs to destruction, in order that he (Adam) would become useful to it. And it knew that he was dis­obedient to it because the light of Epinoia dwelled in him, making him more correct in his thinking than the Chief Ruler. "

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#423214 Nov 28, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>How can someone hide from an all-knowing deity? That's crazy stuff right there.
It seems like it was more of a test to see if they (Adam and Eve) would step forward and come clean voluntarily. As we all know that we can't hide from God according to the Bible.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#423215 Nov 28, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
you're funny! i've told you many times that it's my prerogative how i use my time when working on projects. working on-line is not like working at a vets clinic - end of story! also, my wife knows that i talk on these threads and she's very familiar with my sense of humor - end of story!
now, do the right thing by not lying and slandering me over this anymore or you're being a deceitful brat!
she thinks it funny
that you make passes at other women, but get tuned down consistently.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#423216 Nov 28, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.."
Just ponder of this statement for a moment, and then apply it to the issue of contraceptives for "Christian" companies.
It is a problem with Obamacare.
Just thinking out loud. Mainly off-topic, but it is an interesting take on "the separation of church and state".
Cheers!
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/3549-obamac...
Hey New-age, long time no see

I don't think that is a law respecting one religion. It is simply saying if you are a religious organization (and this would apply to any) if your business is run solely by those int faith then it is not subject to some secular rules. Respecting it IMO would allow then not to follow legislature passed simply because they don't want to because of religious beliefs even though employees may not feel the same. If it is a private organization with just religious affiliates then I think they have the right not to be forced to do something against their beliefs. But so long as it affects other people they don't share their beliefs they have to abide by it and I think that is fair

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#423217 Nov 28, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Skom - good to see ya posting.
If they are watching you, it means they "like you" - don't you know anything.
Think of your Jr. High days - guys picked on girls because they liked them; girls picked on guys, because they liked them.
So called "Christians" "watch" [future "picking ons" in the works], because they like you.
It's that simple!
:o)
Heh

One never knows!

Although I think perhaps some people simply have an over-exaggerated sense of self-importance and take Topix a wee bit too seriously. Perhaps they are projecting their own insecurities as well as I think it is hilarious not only someone would tell me people are watching and therefore judging me based on my posts but that they would think anyone would care. I can only assume it would matter to them if they think it matters to others.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#423218 Nov 28, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Well, there you go. That's what was missing from the initial "outburst", shall we say. I had no idea what your angle was so I held off waiting for further posts to illustrate what you were after. Others here responded more quickly, assuming you were resurrecting the "Christian nation for Christians" story. I think it was a fair assumption.
I hope you have a great day today.
Peace.
HipG
Well I would say if someone wasn't sure what my initial intent was they had other posts for context. After that I posted to W_N letting her know people were concerned about her son and did she have any updates to pass along. I then posted to G saying I understood he didn't post what he did out of ego but because his integrity was called into question and even his competency. I then copied a reply from Lawest to W_N. Again,those came AFTER the quotes. W_N even responded to the one about her son so I sincerely doubt she didn't she the quotes until the next day which she had to pass to get to my post about her son. She saw another poster jump on me and wanted to ride the bandwagon. There are a lot of posters like that on Topix. As there are a lot of followers in life in general.

And considering even in the quote with the posts I said I was simply providing it for background as I have since what it is they believed debated a lot and thought the quotes shed light on that. So I guess I will just agree to disagree. W-N has a history with me and quite frankly with most looking to nit-pick and fight in situations most wouldn't have even thought to try to make an issue

As for the quotes I never said it summed up their entire lives. But it spoke specifically to what they based their personal morals on and that they felt society suffered when moving away from God. 2 of the quotes had the entire text. The other i shortened from a much longer paragraph just because it was pretty much reiterating the same things. I think it is very biased to selectively decide quotes basically cherry-picked and meaningless when they say something someone doesn't like unless you never rely on quotes for this reason then I would say fair enough. Quotes generally give a good idea of how someone feels about a specific subject. I don't think we need their life's work to get a pretty good idea of how they feel based on a specific quote

As to whether or not their idea of God was the same as mine is not relevant to me. I don't need anybody else's beliefs to mirror mine. But I respect the fact that these men of power recognized their is a higher power to the universe that men should answer to and that moving away from God can negatively impact us as a society. I agree with that. Organized religion may be a different argument but not God.

I still don't see why you feel those quotes are misleading. Can you please provide me other information for context so I can see why you think that? Thanks

Hope your day has been a good one

(T) Peace

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Roman Catholic church only true church, says Va... (Jul '07) 8 min Gods r Delusion x... 672,769
Hell Angels motor cycle group (Jul '11) 17 min Starla 69
Prove there's a god. (Mar '08) 18 min Gabriel 981,097
The Christian Atheist debate (Jun '15) 40 min ROCCO 104,361
Poll Was 9/11 a conspiracy?? (Oct '07) 3 hr onemale 286,297
Why Should Jesus Love Me? (Feb '08) 7 hr Jehova Witness 619,372
------ POPE Francis **EXPOSED ------ 8 hr Patriot 2
More from around the web