Why I’m no longer a Christian

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#422937 Nov 27, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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I don't think that Wasup learned anything in church. I think all on his own he found a few catch phrases...a hand full of one liners...memorized a couple of verses and took his stash and hid behind "I am forgiven".
Sadly he uses all of his "stuff" at the wrong and inappropriate times.
He doesn't even get what goes along with the "I am forgiven" part.
I agree.

“No Invisible Means of Support ”

Since: Nov 12

Simian Crease

#422938 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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oooouuuch! care to elaborate; i'm all ears....:)
Of course you are. There is no brain to separate them.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422939 Nov 27, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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LOL
When you address the posts that are directed to you...openly...honestly...with out deflection...then maybe someone will address yours in kind. Until then...
i see, so i hafta jump through your same ol hoops again & again and you won't asnswer the most fundemental of all questions!

Jesus is the acid test for self-righteousness and it's not looking so good for you....

“No Invisible Means of Support ”

Since: Nov 12

Simian Crease

#422940 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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yeah, you never met a cowboy like me even in all of texas. there's a cpl of us still around and we gonna call it as we sees it come hell or high water;)
You're going to need more magazines with farm animals, lube, and tissues, because, Sparky, you're obviously quite alone.

“No Invisible Means of Support ”

Since: Nov 12

Simian Crease

#422941 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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MEAN SPIRITED REMARK, but i forgive you cuz God has forgiven me:)
Imaginary forgiveness all around.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422942 Nov 27, 2012
NoStress4me wrote:
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Why would Jesus have come to teach, if we were not meant to follow his instruction?
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I am sorry, I thought I had read you say that you are a Christian. Perhaps this is why I have had such a difficult time trying to understand where you are coming from.
Jesus came as 'One under the law to fulfill the law'.
hey, if you're able to live up to the sermon on the mount without fail, you don't need Jesus. knock yourself out!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#422943 Nov 27, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
Another one bites the dust...I wonder how much of his money they'll get in the tithe before he comes to his senses?
The Forerunner Christian Church???? Yet another of the 38,003 christian cults/divisions (and growing)...
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/11/...
Well, if I were him I wouldn't want anybody watching me be a two-bit actor either.

Glad he decided he _never_ wants another acting role in anything. He just shot his career in the foot and head.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422944 Nov 27, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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Buried in the depths of your Bible is the following...
1 Peter 4:16 New International Version (NIV)
16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
Why are you ashamed Wasup to admit what you are...why don't you praise God for what you are...a Christian?
"if you suffer as a Christian"

lol - whatcha think i'm doing here and you're contributing to?
thanks for the daily contribution of 'persecution points'; cha - ching!;)

do you believe that Jesus is the Savior of the world or that you're good/righteous enough without Him?

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#422945 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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NO! but your/atheist theology goes something like:
i can be just as critical & nasty as i want to cuz i'm not responsible to anything or anyone but my own selfish self.
You seem to speak of yourself not me. I'm responsible to everyone all the time in everything I do. Your perception that I'm critical and nasty is precipitated by the indoctrination of your religion which forces you to believe it.
I understand your embarrassment competely...been there, done that.

You really don't get it do ya??

“No Invisible Means of Support ”

Since: Nov 12

Simian Crease

#422946 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i see, so i hafta jump through your same ol hoops again & again and you won't asnswer the most fundemental of all questions!
Jesus is the acid test for self-righteousness and it's not looking so good for you....
Don't take the brown acid. It's a bummer, man.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#422947 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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MEAN SPIRITED REMARK, but i forgive you cuz God has forgiven me:)
Another example of not taking responsibility for your actions...do what you wish and your god-being will forgive you.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422948 Nov 27, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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So is this christian pastor (John White) that reads from the same bible as you, believes in the same god-being as you, prays like you do, believes in a heaven and a hell like you do, and on and on...is he forgiven by your god-being and saved by your christ-being? That is of course if he prays and begs for forgiveness from your god-being.
sounds like a messed-up dude. wait...your not bigoted, prejudice and ignorant enough to insinuate that all christians think & act like him, are you???

btw - how do you get forgiveness for your sins?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422949 Nov 27, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>Of course you are. There is no brain to separate them.
a cheap shot, one liner insult is about as dumb a response as i could have gotten for requesting some open & honest communication.

BUT...i forgive you:)

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#422950 Nov 27, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
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10. Yes,if you ever presented a fact, it would be confusing. Good call, broken clock. Hey, that's your Native American name. Broken Clock!
Please don't insult Native Americans! They treated their mentally deficient quite well and gave them a special place in the community where they couldn't hurt themselves or others. And his name would have been 'Little Clock', meaning that they knew he would never be an adult in his mind.

“No Invisible Means of Support ”

Since: Nov 12

Simian Crease

#422951 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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Jesus came as 'One under the law to fulfill the law'.
hey, if you're able to live up to the sermon on the mount without fail, you don't need Jesus. knock yourself out!
The Sermon on the Mount was a bastardized mess of some witty sayings, a little good advice, reams of really bad advice, and tacit proof that the author was NOT divine or wise beyond mortal men. Rather than being the ultimate instructions for how to live life, the sermon contains several passages that would typically qualify as bad advice and projects some philosophical positions that are typical of the era and not indicative of a wise, transcendent being.

A few examples:

Matthew 5:13 - Salt does not lose its flavor. Not even metaphorically.

Matthew 5:29-30 - Taken literally this is stupid advice. Taken figuratively, it's still bad advice. Essentially, he's saying that it is wise to deny your nature instead of working to understand it, change it or channel it into productive, positive results. Look at this verse in relation to the adultery one: if lust is causing you to sin (whatever that is), eliminate lust from your life because it's better to eliminate lust than risk going to Hell.

That exact advice is what has encouraged countless monks to lead a celibate life. It works for some, but not for others. Some struggle forever because they've been told to eliminate lust rather than being taught how to live a healthy life that doesn't allow lustful thoughts to control actions. It's the reason we have problems with priests abusing parishioners and monks engaging in all manner of self mutilation, torture and abuse.

This isn't good advice. Good advice informs someone about how to improve their nature - not deny it. No advice this foolish should ever be considered evidence of a wise god.

Additionally, this is another verse that advocates "hell" as a real place that we should avoid. It promotes a very simplistic "do good or be punished" morality which is vastly inferior to one in which we are encouraged to do good because it is good.

The Sermon on the Mount is useless garbage, you know, just like the Bible.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#422952 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"if you suffer as a Christian"
lol - whatcha think i'm doing here and you're contributing to?
thanks for the daily contribution of 'persecution points'; cha - ching!;)
do you believe that Jesus is the Savior of the world or that you're good/righteous enough without Him?
How can you get persecution points Wasup...when you yourself claim not to be a Christian...

You don't get points when you are ashamed...

How can you be suffering as a Christian when you can't even admit that you are one?

In the last two years...you have never addressed the content of my posts...until you do...

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#422953 Nov 27, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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killing isn't good - read the law!
so when communist/socialist/atheist dictators kill millions of people to promote unity through a mutual godless belief system; that's okay with you people???
The law you stated says it's okay under certain circumstances. Not to mention the book you are getting this nonsense from states that killing in the name of your religion or god is not only justified, but also encouraged.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422954 Nov 27, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>You're going to need more magazines with farm animals, lube, and tissues, because, Sparky, you're obviously quite alone.
that's quite a compliment, but i'm sure there's a cpl others out there who haven't bowed the knee to ole jezebel;)

if you find some others, could you send them my way cuz i'm always ready to play some cards and drink some whiskey but no one else seems to be able get untied from apron strings for a night:(

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422955 Nov 27, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>Imaginary forgiveness all around.
if this is all the deeper you're able to get, i suppose it will hafta do - thanks hon!;)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#422956 Nov 27, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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You seem to speak of yourself not me. I'm responsible to everyone all the time in everything I do. Your perception that I'm critical and nasty is precipitated by the indoctrination of your religion which forces you to believe it.
I understand your embarrassment competely...been there, done that.
You really don't get it do ya??
i zee heir commrade; you are responsible to the collective, but not to a god! vot vill our fearless fuhrer demand the collective to be rezponzible in zee future?;)

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