“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#422395 Nov 25, 2012
Xcntrik InVidor wrote:
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Whew! Is that funny, or what?
Hi, X !!!!!!!!!

You have been sorely missed on these pages.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#422396 Nov 25, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>I know your response is going to be further dodge, evade, lather, rinse, and repeat, but this statement is utter, unadulterated bullshit wrapped up in vague language. The right to display Nativity scenes has not been suppressed. You can display as many Nativity scenes as you want to. What you don't have is a right to use taxpayer money to do so. That has not been suppressed, that has been upheld all the way to the highest court in the land. Laws have meanings.
The right to voluntary prayer has not been suppressed. Prayer is unequivocally allowed in public schools. Period. It can just not be led by the schools. Students may pray together and even have church meetings in America's public schools, it just can not be led or sponsored by the school. This right has not been suppressed but has been upheld by the highest court in the land. Laws have meanings.
You completely and utterly fabricated those contentions, as Christians always do, and that makes you an unashamed, unabashed, unrepentant equivocator of the lowest common denominator. I already know what your response to this will be. Your dodge will be that you stated "some would complain", but, the fact is your statement stands as utter nonsense with or without that qualifier. You and your lies disgust me.
Boom!!!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#422397 Nov 25, 2012
DearthOfCouth wrote:
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We've been seeing these certification competitions lately. I'm not sure just what to make of it.
How ya doin, X-man?
I got tired of the accusations so posted them. Just like many professionals place them on their office walls. It proves that some organization has confered a level of authority in a particular subject.

I ran out of room on my wall.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#422398 Nov 25, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't you make a mint selling your superior secret decoder ring on an infomercial?
"For just $19.99, plus S&H, get the Tony17 magic Bible decoder ring, so you too can claim to be the only one who can "accurately comprehend" that big, old dusty Bible. But wait! There's more! If you act now, Tony will throw in a free prayer cloth replica of the Shroud of Turin! Amaze you friends. Call now! Sham operators are standing by!"
If I had a dollar for every a christian who claimed that their interpretation was right, no matter whose it differs from, I would have 2 billion dollars. GMAFB.
But Wait!!! There's more!!! For just the S&H we'll include a second magic bible decoder ring...in fact we'll give you as many as you want!!!
Just pay the additional S&H for each ring...consider it a tithe...

Haha...

Since: Sep 12

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#422399 Nov 25, 2012
Mary Palm wrote:
<quoted text>I know your response is going to be further dodge, evade, lather, rinse, and repeat, but this statement is utter, unadulterated bullshit wrapped up in vague language. The right to display Nativity scenes has not been suppressed. You can display as many Nativity scenes as you want to. What you don't have is a right to use taxpayer money to do so. That has not been suppressed, that has been upheld all the way to the highest court in the land. Laws have meanings.
The right to voluntary prayer has not been suppressed. Prayer is unequivocally allowed in public schools. Period. It can just not be led by the schools. Students may pray together and even have church meetings in America's public schools, it just can not be led or sponsored by the school. This right has not been suppressed but has been upheld by the highest court in the land. Laws have meanings.
You completely and utterly fabricated those contentions, as Christians always do, and that makes you an unashamed, unabashed, unrepentant equivocator of the lowest common denominator. I already know what your response to this will be. Your dodge will be that you stated "some would complain", but, the fact is your statement stands as utter nonsense with or without that qualifier. You and your lies disgust me.
Obviously you have preconditioned ideas. Do you honestly think that I sympathize with people who do make these complaints? I don't. I understand why they feel that way, but that doesn't mean i am in agreement. It is entirely possible to comprehend the essence and the motivation of another person's views without advocating that view.
This is not dodging or deflecting. it's the truth. Go find another straw-man to stand up and then knock down. It's not getting anywhere with me.
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#422400 Nov 25, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Death of Christ is established history.
Too bad there is no evidence that backs up your bullcrap claim.

Since: Sep 12

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#422401 Nov 25, 2012
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Boom!!!
Boom? More like "fizzle."

“Hello Darlings!”

Since: May 10

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#422402 Nov 25, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:

This is what Christianity has done for you?
I'll pass. Thanks all the same.
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What part of the buybull is that from, angry hateful christian?
Just Results wrote:
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. I'll be laughing as I get to watch you punished, you gutless cowardly anonymous bigot.
This is the ugliness of christianity. Thanks for showing it, and driving people away from your religion of hate.

“Hello Darlings!”

Since: May 10

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#422403 Nov 25, 2012
Tavita wrote:
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JustResults, Jesus must be so proud of you right now.
He thinks so; that's all that matters to him.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#422404 Nov 25, 2012
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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Yes I can. Not with 100% certainty mind you, but ancient history isn't 100% certain. The criteria is "more plausible than not." ...
Yet you find magic babies, zombie gods, talking ghosts and a bearded sky-daddy "more plausible than not."

RPFLMAO

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#422405 Nov 25, 2012
karl44 wrote:
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keep it out of the classrooms,
keep it out of politics
keep it out of science
keep it away from my doorstep
and
keep it away from decent persons
I see that you got negative remarks from this. Funny how the Christian fundies want their crap in the public, but don't want anyone else to have theirs in public. They are not only sick, they're dangerous to the freedoms of this country.

“Hello Darlings!”

Since: May 10

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#422406 Nov 25, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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This is the phoney lining in the evangelical story. What is the purpose of evangelism if NOT to convert and recruit?
As to your "history" of Christ, how do you explain Horus, who was worshiped for 2,000 BEFORE Christ.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.h...
Reurrectionologist doesn't like being remninded of that; he finds such historical facts extremely offensive, and will not address them. At least, not when *I* present them.
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>One of the more controversial theories -- sometimes called the "copycat thesis" -- suggests that many of the miracles, other life events, and beliefs about the supernatural status of Horus, an ancient Egyptian God, were incorporated into stories about Jesus as recorded in Gospels and other books in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament).
The copycat thesis is strongly rejected by the vast majority of Christians but accepted by many skeptics.
bullet Most conservative Christians look upon the Bible as a "top-down" document: one revealed by God to humans. Since fraud, deceit, and lying are not attributes normally associated with God, they believe that the Bible -- as God's Word -- is truthful and accurate.
bullet Many skeptics view the Bible as a "bottom-up" document: one written by human authors to promote their religious and spiritual beliefs. Such authors are quite capable of adopting religious concepts of other cultures and incorporating them into their literary works.
On this topic, we are faced with a stalemate. Skeptical commentators claim that there are many parallels between the lives of Horus and Jesus; Christian commentators tend to deny the existence of most or all of them.
Because they are still in this 2,000 year old process of forcing their beliefs onto us in an effort to become *the* dominant religion. Some things never change.
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#422407 Nov 25, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Have you read the New Testament? That is what Jesus taught.
Jesus never spoke the word hell, so nope, you're wrong. Please continue perpetuate your religious lies. We understand that facts are your enemy.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#422408 Nov 25, 2012
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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....
So in a nutshell, the writings of Origen and Irenaeus do claim that Matthew wrote his gospel in Aramaic/Hebrew while still in Palestine, and this is consistent with the language and Jewish themes we see there. Now I have admitted that I am speculating when I say he probably took notes while Jesus was still alive, as we really have no way of knowing. But on it's own merit, as a tax collector, wouldn't it be sensible to consider that he was literate and had access to writing materials?
Also, St Augustine quotes from Eusebius and other early church fathers as such:(Before dismissing it, look it up and read it for yourself. I am much more interested in pointing you in the right direction than I am trying to convince you myself)
"Now, those four evangelists whose names have gained the most remarkable circulation over the whole world, and whose number has been fixed as four,are believed to have written in the order which follows: first Matthew, then Mark, thirdly Luke, lastly John."
"Of these four, it is true, only Matthew is reckoned to have written in the Hebrew language; the others in Greek. And however they may appear to have kept each of them a certain order of narration proper to himself, this certainly is not to be taken as if each individual writer chose to write in ignorance of what his predecessor had done."
-St. Augustine, The Harmony of the Gospels, 2.
In other words, you have no thoughts of your own but simply let a handful of dark age lunatics tell you what to think.

OK

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#422409 Nov 25, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> To warn. So your blood will be on your own head and not the head of the Christian
More scare tactics for little innocent children and feeble-minded adults.

When will you learn that no one here is going to buy your snake oil?

“Hello Darlings!”

Since: May 10

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#422410 Nov 25, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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I went to Jerusalem in March of 09...We actually took the Exodus Tour that started in Egypt. We stayed there for 3 days and then went on to Israel for 6 days. We visited Bethleham, Jerusalem and Jericho. We had our Sunday morning service on a boat on the Sea of Galilee. Did you ride that boat too? Most people do. I was baptized in the River Jordon. We went to the Western Wall (wailing wall)..Very interesting. We walked the via Delarosa, Rode the cable car to the top of The Mount of Temptation. Went to the garden of Gethsemne and the garden Tomb. I saw so much while I was there. We are planning to go back in a few years. Wonderful, wonderful trip. I rode a Camel a few times while I was there. I loved it...I took about 1800 pictures while I was there. We stayed at the Olive Tree Hotel while we was in Jerusalem....Awesome trip. I will never forget it...
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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I didn't get to do the boat ride. My first trip there was in 1998 as a tourist. There was a lot to do. The Western Wall was really nice.
Did you know that the spot that is believed to be the site of the crucifixion is now a bus terminal?
Apparently because they know something you don't want to know.

“Hello Darlings!”

Since: May 10

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#422411 Nov 25, 2012
DeathOnCouch wrote:
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Freakin crybaby.
Hateful believer.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#422412 Nov 25, 2012
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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Boom? More like "fizzle."
Only in your mind...
Nice try but you fail once again.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#422413 Nov 25, 2012
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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I didn't get to do the boat ride. My first trip there was in 1998 as a tourist. There was a lot to do. The Western Wall was really nice.
Did you know that the spot that is believed to be the site of the crucifixion is now a bus terminal? I would love to go to the Jordan River for a baptism. I did see them taking place, but I was more interested in seeing the other sites such as the Pool of Bethsaida and Mount of Olives, Garden of Gethsemane, The Garden Tomb. Being a historian, I was thrilled when I was granted access to the Israeli Antiquities Authority for a rare glimpse of archeological survey sites in Israel. When I presented my identification to the guard I expected him to just brush me off as another curious tourist. I was startled when he made a call and somebody actually came to the door and escorted me inside. I was like a kid in a candy store! I didn't expect access without an appointment, and the next thing I know I'm talking face to face with the assistant director for archeological surveys! That's how I got my second visit in 2005! It was work related and I got to observe some archeological digs! It's amazing to watch! Some of the writing I did from that trip was used as a basis for creating some new exhibits in some prominent museums!
Are you aware that there were two towns known as Bethlehem and that the one who fits the description in the Bible is not the one tourists are led to?

How would anyone know where Jesus was crucified? Thousands of people were crucified at that time. They lined the Roman roads and hills. Since there is no Roman record of Jesus being crucified, there is no placement for a crucifixion. You've been sold a bill of goods.

I have a nail I'd like to sell you.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#422414 Nov 25, 2012
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>Good stuff, Maynard.
Isn't Iraneus the one who rationalizes the use of four gospels, because there were "four winds, and four corners of the earth", so it just seemed right and proper that there should be four gospels?
If it weren't for that "sound arguement" (LOL) the Gospel of John would have been burned as a Gnosic heresy. John was the least objectionable narrative they could add.

Too bad the idea of the Trinity didn;t exist then so they could have made a better "arguement" for leaving John out.

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