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Resurrectionologist wrote:
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Why don't you think I could write an accurate historical account of the JFK assassination? What makes you so sure I couldn't?
This should be interesting.
This is supposed to be analogous to the gospel "witnesses", with the same technology, right?

So, to begin, you weren't born yet, so "eyewitness" is out.

You have no written record.

You have nothing left but interviews with witnesses and participants. But wait! Most, if not all, of whom are now dead. So, your witness list is very short. You can interview friends and colleagues. Now we're at second-hand.

I'll really be interested to see how you sort this out. Second shooter on the grassy knoll, or not? What's up with the mystery bullet on the gurney? Was the Mafia involved? Castro? LBJ?

And we're just scratching the surface.

Actually, with all the rumors and conspiracy theories swirling around the JFK assassination, the subject is far murkier now than it was in 1963. The fact is, you could not write an authoritative account 50 years later. The best you could do is recap the various theories and scuttlebutt, and scribble out your opinion as to which works for you.

Kinda like the "gospels". Right?

Great analogy.

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Nov 24, 2012
 
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>You ain't taught nobody nuthin but that there's an endless supply of insecure quasi-God Warriors that feel like they have to strut and blow on an anonymous board like wet-feathered peacocks.
Ya'll remind me of the Corpse-maker from Twain's Huck Finn:
展hoo-oop! I知 the old original iron-jawed, brass-mounted, copper-bellied corpse-maker from the wilds of Arkansaw! Look at me! I知 the man they call Sudden Death and General Desolation! Sired by a hurricane, dam壇 by an earthquake, half-brother to the cholera, nearly related to the small-pox on the mother痴 side! Look at me! I take nineteen alligators and a bar値 of whiskey for breakfast when I知 in robust health, and a bushel of rattlesnakes and a dead body when I知 ailing! I split the everlasting rocks with my glance, and I squench the thunder when I speak! Whoo-oop! Stand back and give me room according to my strength! Blood痴 my natural drink, and the wails of the dying is music to my ear! Cast your eye on me, gentlemen!預nd lay low and hold your breath, for I知 bout to turn myself loose!
Tell ya what, Toady17yroldBigot, name your subject. Please go slow, I'll see if I can keep up.
excelent post about all those so called world christianity self appointed egos,and bongos with day dreaming delusional maniacial visions and nonsenses based on their teachings from sunday school church and drinking 'blood' water communion mixed with priest urines and moon shine made in the swamps of luisiana wild woods

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Tony17 wrote:
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Well some people just can't be taught. That's not my fault cause God knows I do try.
since according to you?
God knows and God is teacher?
why you try to teach before God, and be teacher of men,?
why you try?
something what is not given to you,and not having any spiritual authority to be spiritual teacher of others?

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Well, we've only 'seen' one set of qualifications. As to that of Res, we haven't seen anything.
But it's a battle of 'I'm the smartest' and 'Piss off'.
Have you been to Jerusalem? Why do you tell me that the platform that the temple rested on was part of the temple when I have seen it for myself and can tell you it's not?

Let me put it another way.

What do I have to gain?

Are you going to join my church? I doubt it. I'm not asking you to.

Are you going to send me money? I don't want or need your money.

I don't want to say "I told you so! Neener! Neener!"

Oh and as far as historical writing goes, nobody is 100% objective in writing history. Everyone has some presuppositions. I know I do.
The important thing is to keep them to a minimum.

I didn't become a historian to validate my faith. I was agnostic when I was injured as a firefighter in southern New York State. After hip surgery, I had to find a new profession. I put myself through college, most days in pain. I decided on history. I never expected to become a spiritual person. The evidence I found is what finally convinced me. Not the other way around. I learned that history is not 100% absolute. Neither is faith. But I have come to that place in my life where I have had the experiences and the formal education to know what I'm talking about, and my conclusion is that the origins of Christianity as we currently know it are far more likely than not.

You don't have to become a Christian. Nobody is forcing you to do so. I think that you're afraid that the information is correct. If the information we evangelical apologists is more likely than unlikely, then you have choices to make. It is those choices that bother you.

So why not just say, "Okay, the information might be correct, but I choose not to accept it." Why not just go that route? it would be more honest than what you're currently doing.

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Dogs rock!
Ever try to play fetch with a cat?
love cats as well! they have personalities! the way they act when given catnip!!!!! funny.

the only thing i wouldn't own as a pet, is a rodent! LoL

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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And they should stop all their complaining and count their blessings that they are in a good country that permits options, unlike China and other athiest utopias.
BoooOOOOOOOooooOOOOOO

you're a JACKASS FOR JESUS.

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#422281
Nov 24, 2012
 
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
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since according to you?
God knows and God is teacher?
why you try to teach before God, and be teacher of men,?
why you try?
something what is not given to you,and not having any spiritual authority to be spiritual teacher of others?
http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/romans/pa...
Here's my reply.

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#422282
Nov 24, 2012
 
Zen Master Ein wrote:
<quoted text>You know that you are crazy. With a name like wolf witch the only thing that you have figured out is that you are mentally not functioning.
Spoken like a true "Zen Master."

Bite me, honey.
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Nov 24, 2012
 
i sah tha

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Serah wrote:
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Revelations 21:8--"But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING (emphasis added, just for you) and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Second death WW, not the first death, which is the physical death! Why would all of the above in 21:8 end up in the same place as those who have an honorable intent? It is bad enough living with them here on earth, we surely don't need that for eternity. We each take with us that which we have earned.......
Tell it to your buybull, that tells *you* that the thought-crime of disbelief is punishable by eternal damnation and burning agony.

What's your god got to gain by that? Care to take a whack at it, since "Resurrectionologist " is too scared?
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#422285
Nov 24, 2012
 
too so

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God STILL love you all wrote:
I think you probably do.
I dont hate you or hold malice towards you because you dont believe in the truth but I hope you can find or return to the Lord, Jesus Christ, before it is too late. Here is the good news though, if you reject Jesus he will not force you to follow him.
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then why do all you fundie christurds try and shove it down our throat???

non-believers KNOW this, if we wanted it, we know where to find it.

thanks but no thanks.

dust your sandals off and mosey on down the road.

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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No he didn't, coward viking. And there's nothing you can do about it.
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History is filled with *REAL* people who have affected our humanity for the better.
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I defy you to prove that it *isn't* my real picture. I think you are an idiot; and I don't care what *you* think.
TJ Monk wrote:
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May I suggest that we make out?
No.
TJ Monk wrote:
<quoted text>I am a good looking male
Sorry; I'm not into syphilitic and leprous midgets.

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Resurrectionologist wrote:
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You do? You really need to check your ego at the door. You're not gonna like my next statement, but I don't really care either.
Do YOU know Greek? I DO.
Do YOU know Hebrew? I DO.
Have YOU been to Jerusalem? I HAVE. TWICE.
Do YOU have an Undergraduate's Degree w/ honors in Ancient History from a secular University? I DO.(Binghamton University - SUNY)
Do YOU conduct historical research as a profession? I DO.(Not in religion either - just sayin')
If anyone around here has extensive knowledge without having gone to a Divinity School, it is I. But I do not correct your errors for my own ego, no matter what you might think. I correct your errors because they are just THAT. ERRORS.
Go ahead. Get mad, get nasty, it matters little to me how you react.
What does matter is what I've seen, where I've been, and that the conclusions I have reached are more plausible than not.
Your ego is dedicated to yourself.
My ego is dedicated to knocking your presuppositions right where they belong: in the dust.
Now shall we continue?
I went to Jerusalem in March of 09...We actually took the Exodus Tour that started in Egypt. We stayed there for 3 days and then went on to Israel for 6 days. We visited Bethleham, Jerusalem and Jericho. We had our Sunday morning service on a boat on the Sea of Galilee. Did you ride that boat too? Most people do. I was baptized in the River Jordon. We went to the Western Wall (wailing wall)..Very interesting. We walked the via Delarosa, Rode the cable car to the top of The Mount of Temptation. Went to the garden of Gethsemne and the garden Tomb. I saw so much while I was there. We are planning to go back in a few years. Wonderful, wonderful trip. I rode a Camel a few times while I was there. I loved it...I took about 1800 pictures while I was there. We stayed at the Olive Tree Hotel while we was in Jerusalem....Awesome trip. I will never forget it...

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Nov 24, 2012
 
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Then the Christians who are always crying about their rights being taken away in the US should also be thankful for the same.
Every time I have asked what 'rights' have been taken away, I never get an answer.
You have the right to believe. You have the right to whine and complain. You even have the right to lie for your religion should you choose to. So what rights have been taken away?
Resurrectionologist wrote:
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Well some would complain that the right to display a Nativity scene during the Christmas Holiday, or the right to voluntary public prayer in school has been suppressed.
I have no problems with such; just don't use my money to do it.

**OR** let's use tax money to put up displays of *ALL* religions equally.

You christians want public money to promote your particular religion, and that is forbidden by the First Amendment.
Resurrectionologist wrote:
<quoted text> Then there are those who voice concerns over the equality of offering evolution and creation classes in public high schools.
Evolution is scientific fact; creationism is religious dogma, and not to be allowed in publicly funded science classes under the First Amendment. Period.

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Only the Biblically illiterate believes that Noah's bloodline was impure. No pointin aruging the fact with unlearned atheists that think they are even more intelligent than God Himsllf.
As scripture states,some of you thnik you are wise but they became fools instead. Always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth
"Noah" is a myth; he never existed. Your "global flood" never occurred, and your buybull is a book of myths and lies.

Get over it.

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God STILL love you all wrote:
I think you probably do.
I dont hate you or hold malice towards you because you dont believe in the truth but I hope you can find or return to the Lord, Jesus Christ, before it is too late. Here is the good news though, if you reject Jesus he will not force you to follow him.
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You have no truth. You have a book of lies.

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#422295
Nov 24, 2012
 
Zen Master Ein wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you hate Grace Walker and call her Bible a book of lies?
Here's another "christian" accusing me of hating someone.

Hey, dummy? Where'd you ever get the idea that I hate Grace? I happen to like her. I don't agree with her religious beliefs, but she has never been pushy or rude to me; therefore, I treat her with the same respect she shows me.

We also work in the same field.

You fundies are always so quick on the trigger to accuse *others* of hate.

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Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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"Noah" is a myth; he never existed. Your "global flood" never occurred, and your buybull is a book of myths and lies.
Get over it.
LOL

People complain Christians and other religious folk shove religion down their throats, yet atheists and agnostics and other "non-believers" make statements like this. Aren't you doing the same thing you accuse religious people of doing?

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Nov 24, 2012
 
Zen Master Ein wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you hate Grace Walker and call her Bible a book of lies?
Why do you hate the truth?

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