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Nov 14, 2012
 
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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It is most definitely a good argument for the authenticity of the content. Each gospel is consistent for each writer and the intended audience. It is not manipulation of the same story, its highlighting the aspects of the same story that would make the most sense to the intended readers readers.
For example: If you were a kinder-gardener I would explain that water is wet, clear, and you need to drink it to stay alive. If you were studying chemistry in college I would most definitely fail to mention you need to drink water to survive, that much would already be known, and I wouldn't tell you that it is clear or wet feeling. I would tell you that it is made of hydrogen and oxygen and talk about how water is formed by the combination of the two.
Reconciling those two explanations side by side might seem to present inconsistencies, when both explanations are explaining the same thing. The main difference between the explanations is the intended audience and as a result, the content differs.
Simply because the explanations in my example or in the Bible are different does not mean that water, or God do not exist.
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Nov 14, 2012
 
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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My apologies. I don't quite grasp your definition of an eye witness. I was assuming that you could be an eyewitness to an event and be dead. You are correct, there is no one currently alive who is available to give us an eyewitness testimony. However, we do have accounts from eyewitnesses recorded.
No, you failed to grasp the value of eye witness accounts, and the tiny amount of value they have is lost when the "witness" dies, and there can be no value if it is written second hand. Not to mention that eye witnesses themselves have to prove demonstrably reliable before their accounts can be regarded as even possibly factual. Thought experiment:

I come to you, online, and state I saw a tyrannosaur walking down the street. How would you regard that eye witness testimony?

Say I state that hundreds of other people saw it as well. Would that change the validity?(this is as far as your biblical ones get, by the way)

Okay, so I get these hundreds of people to actually come online and tell you that. Do you still believe that a real tyrannosaur walked down the street?(I hope not, if so, you are gullible)

Okay, so then I get all the people and myself to tell you in person. Now do you believe the story?(I still hope not, you'd still be gullible)

Now, I pull up images of the tyrannosaur and even some footprints. Is it believable?(not yet)

Then I show you the actual tyrannosaur. Now you can say without any doubt that you saw it. Does that still make our testimonies believable? Nope, any rational and intelligent person would still doubt it, because we know they're extinct, so to have a live one wandering about would probably get national recognition, as in millions of people seeing it. Without that, there's no way to know for certain.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I only passed English 102 with a "B" - grammar was never my strong suit.
If you feel the need to correct me, have at it, you'll be doing a lot of grading I expect.
In other words - I'll still make the errors.
FYI - I do make them on purpose, just to see who will be the one correcting them, instead of staying on topic.
;o)
*shrugs*
Cheers!
Thus why I did it in a neutral manner. ;) If it was meant to ridicule I would have added some insult with it, like I usually do for creatards.

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I got one for you.
Where are the Martians?
Evolution fail.
Mars had its day.
So, where's the beef?
Welcome to the internet, now please catch up with the rest of us quickly, and you may want to check your religion at the door if you want to at least sound intelligent.
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Welcome to the internet, now please catch up with the rest of us quickly, and you may want to check your religion at the door if you want to at least sound intelligent.
Thanks for the deflection!
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THIS IS THE DEAL FOLKS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO LIVES AND ARE LOSERS. SO, THEY TRY TO GET INTO PEOPLE'S LIVES SO THEY CAN ATTACH THEMSELVES TO A LIFE. YES, LEACHES, BLOOD SUCKING FOR LIFE.

There are some new laws, which are not espoused in the video. Between July 2011 and Dec. 2011, a poster named Native, on the Christian forums, who had actually stopped posting for about a year, was notified in July 2011, that a photo of her recently deceased mom was posted as a posters avatar. She was shocked to see that it was sitting there, not removed by right there. She had been grieving for less than 8 months. It took her two weeks to get it taken down.

These were down by a group of about 10 gay atheists.

Here are their names, in order of involvement and tolerating the attack.

1. Jaybird1956
2. Rnl2008
3. MrsMurphy
4. IamServant
5. Nettiebelle
6. Troth Leogoere
7. Seenisawesome
8. Tickedoffchic
8. resident
9. 15th Dalai Lama
10. Loveismygoal
11. Seriously
12. MrsWhitewater
13. RoseNoHo

A lot of you know them, because you applaud them and do the same thing to yellodog aka pattiecake

You are:

1. Happy Lesbo
2. boooots
3. Hidingfromyou
4. Catcher
5. RoseNoHo
6. Kaitlin the wolf witch
7. Peace-Love-Happiness
8. Lacez
9. synper
10. fake (yellodog3 aka Happy Lesbo
11. passing through
12. ratherbeinmissouri
13. Grace Walker

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/topix-innoce ...
By EAMON MCNIFF
March 21, 2012

In Blairsville, Ga., as in most American towns, gossip is dished out with the daily special at the local diner. But now there's a new forum called Topix that spreads gossip as fast as the Internet connection allows. And unlike the diner, where you know the person you're talking to, Topix uses only screen names.

The combination of small-town familiarity -- everyone knows each other -- anonymity and instant dissemination compounds the impact when gossip is aimed at a neighbor or small business. Words on a web page -- permanent, searchable and bearing the authority of the (digitally) printed word -- are different from hearsay that can be forgotten or laughed off. They can ruin someone's life.

Watch the whole story on the full episode of "20/20"

Ask Gene Cooley. Cooley grew up in and around Blairsville. In 2008 he was living in town, a divorced father of two young boys who was holding down a job as a hair stylist.

He had been given a second chance at love. He was engaged to Paulette Harper, who, together with her daughter, was getting ready to start a new life with Cooley.

"She was a wonderful girl," Cooley said in an interview with "20/20" Anchor Chris Cuomo. "She had a beautiful heart, a beautiful soul."
PHOTO: Gene Cooley, of Blairsville, Ga., with his late fiancee, Paulette Harper, and her daughter.
Courtesy of Gene Cooley
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Yet before their new life could begin, Harper's ex took it all away.

"Apparently she was taking a nap," Cooley said. "Somehow he got in, startled her, and must have pushed her down and then shot her. He waited around for a little while, and then finally committed suicide."

Cooley's world was shattered, he said. All that was left was to bring Harper's body to Florida, where her family lived.

THIS IS NOT A GAME, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO TREAT IT LIKE ONE.

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love_spell wrote:
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you're a donkey braying about long ears on another.
not to mention you don't say anything to your brother and sister christurds who spew more hate than carter's had liver pills.
if perhaps some of you fundies walked the walk, as well as talk the talk, you might see an improvement in how nonbelievers treat you.
for instance look at how grace and NS4M are treated. with respect. because they give respect. try it!
You are a freak show sucking bones.

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Ban Stalkers wrote:
THIS IS THE DEAL FOLKS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO LIVES AND ARE LOSERS. SO, THEY TRY TO GET INTO PEOPLE'S LIVES SO THEY CAN ATTACH THEMSELVES TO A LIFE. YES, LEACHES, BLOOD SUCKING FOR LIFE.
There are some new laws, which are not espoused in the video. Between July 2011 and Dec. 2011, a poster named Native, on the Christian forums, who had actually stopped posting for about a year, was notified in July 2011, that a photo of her recently deceased mom was posted as a posters avatar. She was shocked to see that it was sitting there, not removed by right there. She had been grieving for less than 8 months. It took her two weeks to get it taken down.
These were down by a group of about 10 gay atheists.
Here are their names, in order of involvement and tolerating the attack.
1. Jaybird1956
2. Rnl2008
3. MrsMurphy
4. IamServant
5. Nettiebelle
6. Troth Leogoere
7. Seenisawesome
8. Tickedoffchic
8. resident
9. 15th Dalai Lama
10. Loveismygoal
11. Seriously
12. MrsWhitewater
13. RoseNoHo
A lot of you know them, because you applaud them and do the same thing to yellodog aka pattiecake
You are:
1. Happy Lesbo
2. boooots
3. Hidingfromyou
4. Catcher
5. RoseNoHo
6. Kaitlin the wolf witch
7. Peace-Love-Happiness
8. Lacez
9. synper
10. fake (yellodog3 aka Happy Lesbo
11. passing through
12. ratherbeinmissouri
13. Grace Walker
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/topix-innoce ...
By EAMON MCNIFF
March 21, 2012
In Blairsville, Ga., as in most American towns, gossip is dished out with the daily special at the local diner. But now there's a new forum called Topix that spreads gossip as fast as the Internet connection allows. And unlike the diner, where you know the person you're talking to, Topix uses only screen names.
The combination of small-town familiarity -- everyone knows each other -- anonymity and instant dissemination compounds the impact when gossip is aimed at a neighbor or small business. Words on a web page -- permanent, searchable and bearing the authority of the (digitally) printed word -- are different from hearsay that can be forgotten or laughed off. They can ruin someone's life.
Watch the whole story on the full episode of "20/20"
Ask Gene Cooley. Cooley grew up in and around Blairsville. In 2008 he was living in town, a divorced father of two young boys who was holding down a job as a hair stylist.
He had been given a second chance at love. He was engaged to Paulette Harper, who, together with her daughter, was getting ready to start a new life with Cooley.
"She was a wonderful girl," Cooley said in an interview with "20/20" Anchor Chris Cuomo. "She had a beautiful heart, a beautiful soul."
PHOTO: Gene Cooley, of Blairsville, Ga., with his late fiancee, Paulette Harper, and her daughter.
Courtesy of Gene Cooley
Gene Cooley, of Blairsville, Ga., with his... View Full Size
Get It Off the Web Watch Video
'Destroy Someone's Life in a Minute' Watch Video
Search Yourself, Protect Yourself Watch Video
Yet before their new life could begin, Harper's ex took it all away.
"Apparently she was taking a nap," Cooley said. "Somehow he got in, startled her, and must have pushed her down and then shot her. He waited around for a little while, and then finally committed suicide."
Cooley's world was shattered, he said. All that was left was to bring Harper's body to Florida, where her family lived.
THIS IS NOT A GAME, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO TREAT IT LIKE ONE.
Wow.

You're strange.
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#420257
Nov 15, 2012
 
You are lucky you are Kristian.
If you chaing to Budist or any other beleaf,
your church will not execut you, as will if you, in Islam.
So, whats so dificult to respect the words of Jesus.
You can let light in by chainging point of vew.
Not by chainging religion.
Chaing is progres. Those who do not chaiong, walk in darknes.

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#420258
Nov 15, 2012
 
Legion wrote:
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Thanks for the deflection!
It was a hint. If you try that tired, old, and repeatedly humiliated angle, you will be humiliated quite efficiently and quickly. We're practiced at some of these, and nothing you state is new. So come up with something new if you want it to be addressed seriously.

Your post was identical to many of the newb religitards to the net.

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#420259
Nov 15, 2012
 
samostojna MK wrote:
You are lucky you are Kristian.
If you chaing to Budist or any other beleaf,
your church will not execut you, as will if you, in Islam.
So, whats so dificult to respect the words of Jesus.
You can let light in by chainging point of vew.
Not by chainging religion.
Chaing is progres. Those who do not chaiong, walk in darknes.
Do you know English at all? I'm sure you had some point to address, but most people here speak/read/write primarily English.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Wow.
You're strange.
We do seem to be collecting 'em, don't we?
Henry

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#420261
Nov 15, 2012
 
G_O_D wrote:
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Exactly!
Thanks!
Forget about the propaganda of the bible!

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Henry wrote:
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Forget about the propaganda of the bible!
I second that.

For whatever it's worth.

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karl44 wrote:
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I do agree that to assert with finality that the man never existed is a dead-end conversation.
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at the time, jesus was a common name, the Romans crucified a boatload of Jews.
why would anyone doubt that one of those crucified was the Bastard son of a carpenter, and that he was called jesus.
To pretend that this is a substitute for the claims of the christian bible is juvenile.
there is zero evidence of the person claimed as jesus the christ, the central character of christian faith and the individual purported to be the god of the christian bible.
the existing evidence points away from this, strongly.
I believe there is a big difference between a possible Jesus and an improbable Christ. Most people can't separate the two. This causes no end of fun and frivolity...

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Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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It is most definitely a good argument for the authenticity of the content. Each gospel is consistent for each writer and the intended audience. It is not manipulation of the same story, its highlighting the aspects of the same story that would make the most sense to the intended readers readers.
For example: If you were a kinder-gardener I would explain that water is wet, clear, and you need to drink it to stay alive. If you were studying chemistry in college I would most definitely fail to mention you need to drink water to survive, that much would already be known, and I wouldn't tell you that it is clear or wet feeling. I would tell you that it is made of hydrogen and oxygen and talk about how water is formed by the combination of the two.
Reconciling those two explanations side by side might seem to present inconsistencies, when both explanations are explaining the same thing. The main difference between the explanations is the intended audience and as a result, the content differs.
Simply because the explanations in my example or in the Bible are different does not mean that water, or God do not exist.
Oh do please keep going. Show an example of how "explaining water" to two different groups can present inconsistencies.

I think you're helping, or not helping, the Biblical authority cause depending on which "group" you're speaking to;)

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Just Results wrote:
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And ball lickers like you go to Hell.
After that, your "evaluation process" will look really silly.
Stay classy.

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Ban Stalkers wrote:
THIS IS THE DEAL FOLKS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO LIVES AND ARE LOSERS. SO, THEY TRY TO GET INTO PEOPLE'S LIVES SO THEY CAN ATTACH THEMSELVES TO A LIFE. YES, LEACHES, BLOOD SUCKING FOR LIFE.
There are some new laws, which are not espoused in the video. Between July 2011 and Dec. 2011, a poster named Native, on the Christian forums, who had actually stopped posting for about a year, was notified in July 2011, that a photo of her recently deceased mom was posted as a posters avatar. She was shocked to see that it was sitting there, not removed by right there. She had been grieving for less than 8 months. It took her two weeks to get it taken down.
These were down by a group of about 10 gay atheists.
Here are their names, in order of involvement and tolerating the attack.
1. Jaybird1956
2. Rnl2008
3. MrsMurphy
4. IamServant
5. Nettiebelle
6. Troth Leogoere
7. Seenisawesome
8. Tickedoffchic
8. resident
9. 15th Dalai Lama
10. Loveismygoal
11. Seriously
12. MrsWhitewater
13. RoseNoHo
A lot of you know them, because you applaud them and do the same thing to yellodog aka pattiecake
You are:
1. Happy Lesbo
2. boooots
3. Hidingfromyou
4. Catcher
5. RoseNoHo
6. Kaitlin the wolf witch
7. Peace-Love-Happiness
8. Lacez
9. synper
10. fake (yellodog3 aka Happy Lesbo
11. passing through
12. ratherbeinmissouri
13. Grace Walker
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/topix-innoce ...
By EAMON MCNIFF
March 21, 2012
In Blairsville, Ga., as in most American towns, gossip is dished out with the daily special at the local diner. But now there's a new forum called Topix that spreads gossip as fast as the Internet connection allows. And unlike the diner, where you know the person you're talking to, Topix uses only screen names.
The combination of small-town familiarity -- everyone knows each other -- anonymity and instant dissemination compounds the impact when gossip is aimed at a neighbor or small business. Words on a web page -- permanent, searchable and bearing the authority of the (digitally) printed word -- are different from hearsay that can be forgotten or laughed off. They can ruin someone's life.
Watch the whole story on the full episode of "20/20"
Ask Gene Cooley. Cooley grew up in and around Blairsville. In 2008 he was living in town, a divorced father of two young boys who was holding down a job as a hair stylist.
He had been given a second chance at love. He was engaged to Paulette Harper, who, together with her daughter, was getting ready to start a new life with Cooley.
"She was a wonderful girl," Cooley said in an interview with "20/20" Anchor Chris Cuomo. "She had a beautiful heart, a beautiful soul."
PHOTO: Gene Cooley, of Blairsville, Ga., with his late fiancee, Paulette Harper, and her daughter.
Courtesy of Gene Cooley
Gene Cooley, of Blairsville, Ga., with his... View Full Size
Get It Off the Web Watch Video
'Destroy Someone's Life in a Minute' Watch Video
Search Yourself, Protect Yourself Watch Video
Yet before their new life could begin, Harper's ex took it all away.
"Apparently she was taking a nap," Cooley said. "Somehow he got in, startled her, and must have pushed her down and then shot her. He waited around for a little while, and then finally committed suicide."
Cooley's world was shattered, he said. All that was left was to bring Harper's body to Florida, where her family lived.
THIS IS NOT A GAME, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO TREAT IT LIKE ONE.
It's amazing how much time you devote to this. Is this your life's work?

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lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> The Greek for risen is 'egeiro'. It is the exact same Greek word used in Luke 24:6 and Matt.24:6. Basically the same verse in in all three Gospels. The meaning is obvious.
<quoted text> The body was not there and the text says as much.
If you want to go that route, then this Station of the Cross, in Rennes-le-Chateau, shows the body being removed at nighttime [i.e. the Moon is present].

http://www.benhammott.com/stations_of_the_cro...
Which could mean that the body was already removed.

I can match your speculation with speculation.

:o)

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AnnieJ wrote:
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BTW This is one of the reasons that I seldom post to you Wasup...you never address the context of anyone's post...you deflect either by some silly nonsense or you try to change the subject.
LOL! Annie, you're the one who didn't directly answer my question to you regarding a sinnful nature. you can't make up the irony/hypocricy among the atheistic/pagan 'community'!

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