Why I’m no longer a Christian

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#420133 Nov 14, 2012
tony1003 wrote:
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New to this thread. Having read the last few pages of your posts, could I ask you a question? Do you see yourself as a Christian? I realise it is none of my business, but from the nature and tone of your posts on here, I can only assume you are not.
Yes he thinks he is a christian and that there a billions more like him...even though his representation of a christian only fits about 3 or 4 people.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420134 Nov 14, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>I'll bet the Baptists, Church of Christers, Methodists, Catholics etc aren't aware that they're not called in groups. Maybe you should educate them. They seem to have formed rather large groups without your permission.
yeah, i'm doing my best to educate one peep at a time:)

just like people don't get birthed physically in groups, nor can they be born-again institutionaly. c'mon people....this isn't rocket science!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#420135 Nov 14, 2012
__Chartreuse_ wrote:
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How quaint.
Dumb quaint.
I was expecting a new sock puppet today. Guess my intuition is still in tact.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420136 Nov 14, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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We all pity the delusional people who believe in the nonsense you do.
i believe in science as it explains the creation. you haven't put up anything regarding what myth/theory that you hang your life on, but you sho-nuff haven't shut up neither!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420137 Nov 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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You chose yourself and claim Jesus chose you above others.
Self proclaimed sainthood !
Sure, and I am the Messiah. God said so himself, prove me wrong.
ROFLMAO
just cuz you call yourself G-O-D doesn't make you Him.

i can prove that you're of the spirit of cain simply because you resent me for trusting in the righteousness of Christ and not my own

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420138 Nov 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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just cuz you call yourself G-O-D doesn't make you Him.
i can prove that you're of the spirit of cain simply because you resent me for trusting in the righteousness of Christ and not my own
Prove your pagan myth of 'christ' is true.

Jesus nor any of 13 Apostles ever used the word.

You prove daily that your religion is based on lies about Jesus, His Jewish religion and the Hebrew Scriptures.

Why should I believe a pagan follower of Paul and Emperors over the words of Jesus and His Jewish religion and the Hebrew Scriptures ?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420139 Nov 14, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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I see a meltdown coming!
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No, just fundie christian beliefs, which people like you are constantly trying to impose on me against my will. You obviously believe I'm obligated to allow you to do just that. Guess again.
If we met in real life and you insisted on having sex with me, and I kept saying "No," you wouldn't accept that. You'd try to justify it by saying some shit like, "But jesus wants it! I have to do what *jesus* says, because he's **GOD!!**"
We have seen in your buybull how your god justifies rape.
Well, consider me to be kicking you--and your "god"--in the balls.
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Damn right I'm elusive. I've seen what happens to my kind at the hands of your kind. This Thanksgiving is the one-year anniversary of my break-in by people who believe exactly as *you* do.
My beliefs are mine, inherited from eight generations. I don't share them with just anyone. I feel no need to impose them onto anyone. I do not claim them to be irrefutable facts, I state them clearly as *my beliefs.* If you would honestly state your beliefs to be *your BELIEFS,* we'd probably get along a hell of a lot better.
I will say this much; my tradition states that all acts of love and compassion gain favor with the Goddess. As to whether I believe in a literal or figurative deity, that's none of your business. The rituals I choose to engage in, for reasons of my own, are none of your business. You do not get to hear of the details.
I do not seek converts, because I do not believe in interfering with the destinies of others; it is not for me to pull people from the path they've chosen. People are free to ask, and I'll answer--up to a certain point. But I do not volunteer such information, and I certainly do not impose. Nor will I allow anyone to impose their beliefs on me.
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Who the fuck do you think you are to make such an arrogant offer?*YOU* do *NOT* determine whether I live or die.*YOU* do *NOT* determine what happens to my soul after death.
Nor does your fictional "savior."
well this is still mean-spirited but at least you put some effort in it:)

"If we met in real life and you insisted on having sex with me"

umm...you're very attractive kait, but there are other attractive women around me & i don't force myself on anybody. similarly, i don't force my beliefs on anyone, but i do like to share them in forums like this & such. that ok w/you?:)

"This Thanksgiving is the one-year anniversary of my break-in by people who believe exactly as *you* do"

this is a bigoted statement, kait, and not fair to me at all. i have never harmed anyone in the name of God nor is it part of what Jesus teaches. i keep saying this to you, but you keep super-imposing your belief of my beliefs over what i say! what am i supposed to do with that?:)

"Who do you think you are to make such an arrogant offer?"

i'll admit to you (can i do this without your using it against me?)that i kinda say "come with me...." to get you riled up (lol), but i don't believe that it's false. if you go the same Way i do, you'll find eternal life in Christ as well:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420140 Nov 14, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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It never happened. You cannot wish your myth into reality.
prove it!

you're not reaping the benefits of the Redemption purchased for us and your sour grapes attitude is proof!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420141 Nov 14, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>What kind of 'sin' have you committed in your life that deserved a death sentence?
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Speak for yourself. In my Universe, "sin"--Self-Inflicte d Nonsense--does not exist.
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For myself, I need no reconciliation with your fictitious god.
so you're calling yourself the sinnless/faultless perfect one!

why do you continue to lie by saying that it's me who's doing that???

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420142 Nov 14, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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I actually agree with this post in part...I have actually been guilty of it myself at times. There is a major difference here however Viking...one that you and some others here have set the bar for.
If you claim that Jesus was perfect...sinless...
If you claim to follow in his footsteps...
Then unless you can show us where Jesus behaved as some of you do...use the language that some of you use...
Then the.."staggering hypocrite and your credibility is zero" phrase would apply to yourself and others (that call themselves followers of Christ) and behave in this manner.
If you are going to claim "righteousness" and claim to live at a higher level than non-Christians...then you need to live those claims. If you don't...then you are a hypocrite and have zero credibility when it comes to your witness for your Christ.
This holds true for anyone of any faith...if you are going to preach it...then you need to make damn sure that you are living it. Hard to do at times I admit...I fail often to live up to my own beliefs.
We can all be hypocrites at times...at times we expect more from others than we are willing to give ourselves. Most of us however at those times are not claiming a higher morality based on "Jesus".
i'm not speaking for viking here, but i have to point out your continuous & inherint error once again:

you said - "Then unless you can show us where Jesus behaved as some of you do..."

the Bible is full of illustrations of humans behaving badly, but only one God/Man who behaved perfectly.

you see, Jesus is the Perfect Savior for people who can admit that they're imperfect. since you can't seem to do this, that's why you can't relate to the Savior nor to His redeemed family.

"since you say "i see", your sin remains" Jesus

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420143 Nov 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you're not reaping the benefits of the Redemption.....
You fail to 'prove' that there are any benefits to your religion. You also fail to 'prove' anything abou tthis 'redemption' you keep mentioning.

Is this a rebate or a discount coupon ?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420144 Nov 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Prove your pagan myth of 'christ' is true.
Jesus nor any of 13 Apostles ever used the word.
You prove daily that your religion is based on lies about Jesus, His Jewish religion and the Hebrew Scriptures.
Why should I believe a pagan follower of Paul and Emperors over the words of Jesus and His Jewish religion and the Hebrew Scriptures ?
believe Jesus' words then, as recorde by His apostles & i'll stop challenging you and instead receive you as a brother.

you can't pick & choose which apostles though cuz Jesus did the choosing for us!

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420145 Nov 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i'm not speaking for viking here, but i have to point out your continuous & inherint error once again:
you said - "Then unless you can show us where Jesus behaved as some of you do..."
the Bible is full of illustrations of humans behaving badly, but only one God/Man who behaved perfectly.
you see, Jesus is the Perfect Savior for people who can admit that they're imperfect. since you can't seem to do this, that's why you can't relate to the Savior nor to His redeemed family.
"since you say "i see", your sin remains" Jesus
That made no sense what-so-ever.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420146 Nov 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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believe Jesus' words then, as recorde by His apostles & i'll stop challenging you...
The only text that claims to be by an Apostle is the Gospel of Thomas. All the ones in your Bible are anonymous and claiming they were written by the people in the titles your church gave them is a blatant act of ignorance or deceit.

Your problem is that you can't tell the difference between truth and lies.

I have never lied on Topix. You and other 'christians' do so constantly.

When you start bebuking viking, knowledge and lordhaha, then I believe that you are an honest man seeking the truth. Until then you are just another babbling mouth.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420148 Nov 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you can't pick & choose which apostles though cuz Jesus did the choosing for us!
Jesus didn't choose the anonymous books that your church lies about the authors.

They were NOT written by any apostle and this FACT has been accepted by biblical scholors (including most Christian denominations) for over 200 years.

The only gospel that in its own text claims to be written by an apostle is the Gospel of Thoimas. Yet you call it a pack of lies simply because a 4th century Emperor said so.

You kn ow nothing of your own religion and how it has been worshiping emperors and popes instead of God for 1700 years.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420151 Nov 14, 2012
Viking wrote:
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Wrong again you LYING PIG!!!!!!!!!JESUS USED THE WORD CHRIST CONSTANTLY!!!!!!!!!CONSTANTLY! !!!!!!YOU ILLITERATE PIG!!!!!!!!!!
AND THE APOSTLES ALSO USED THE WORD CHRIST!!!!!CONSTANTLY!!!!!!!
YOU PIG!!!!!!!!!!YOU ILLITERATE LYING PIG!!!!!!!!!!
It is really pathetic that you can't refute a single thing I ever posted and all you can do is hurl vile insults.

All you prove is that you know nothing and can't back up a single thing you say.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#420153 Nov 14, 2012
Viking wrote:
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...JESUS USED THE WORD CHRIST CONSTANTLY.....
WOW!

You are incredibly stupid to think that Jew would use a Greek word.

I bet you think Jesus spoke English, too.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#420154 Nov 14, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i'm not speaking for viking here, but i have to point out your continuous & inherint error once again:
you said - "Then unless you can show us where Jesus behaved as some of you do..."
the Bible is full of illustrations of humans behaving badly, but only one God/Man who behaved perfectly.
you see, Jesus is the Perfect Savior for people who can admit that they're imperfect. since you can't seem to do this, that's why you can't relate to the Savior nor to His redeemed family.
"since you say "i see", your sin remains" Jesus
Then your reading comprehension is worse than I thought. Could that be because you read my posts looking for something to condemn with?

Go back and read...I began by admitting my fault that I judged Christians at a different level than I do non-Christians. I have admitted a lot of my faults on this thread Wasup...you just fail to read than part because it gives you nothing to send me to hell with.

“ChristianityIs AMental Disease”

Since: May 10

And The Cure Is Education

#420159 Nov 14, 2012
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
KittenKoder wrote:
Hercules has more eyewitness accounts on record than Jesus. Yeah, 500 people but only four writings, versus thousands of eye witnesses and several hundred writings.
I'm placing my bets on Hercules if it's according to hearsay.
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John--but you already know that.
All four of them contradict each other.
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There were no eyewitnesses; that's a lie.
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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How do you explain the accounts in the bible which claim eyewitness?
Your buybull contradicts itself repeatedly; I've already pointed that out to you. Like a true believer, though, you ignore that.

"First, that the writers could not have been eye-witnesses and ear-witnesses of the matters they relate, or they would have related them without those contradictions; and consequently, that the books have not been written by the persons called apostles, who are supposed to have been witnesses of this kind.

"Secondly, that the writers, whoever they were, have not acted in concerted imposition; but each writer separately and individually for himself, and without the knowledge of the others." Thomas Paine, "Age of Reason"
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>It was The accounts found in the bible, especially the gospels, are written to appeal to different people, that is why they are different.
If they were truthful, they would have been the same. You have provided an excellent profile of organized lying.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#420160 Nov 14, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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The only text that claims to be by an Apostle is the Gospel of Thomas. All the ones in your Bible are anonymous and claiming they were written by the people in the titles your church gave them is a blatant act of ignorance or deceit.
Your problem is that you can't tell the difference between truth and lies.
I have never lied on Topix. You and other 'christians' do so constantly.
When you start bebuking viking, knowledge and lordhaha, then I believe that you are an honest man seeking the truth. Until then you are just another babbling mouth.
so i have to identify with the likes of viking, knowledge and lordhaha by super-imposing myself over them before you'll respect me??? sorry, no-can-do; i'm only responsible for myself here and so are they & you're just gonna hafta understand that!

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