Then why do you go so far out of your way to convince me of otherwise?<quoted text>
Well WN, I appreciate your comments. I don't have any goal to convert you or anyone else. My only purpose is to correct the erroneous information that is out there. In truth, I have no problem with Kaitlin as a person, or with her stance as an unbeliever. That's not the problem for me.
There's no evidence of him. All the writings about him are based on an MYTHICAL FIGURE, AS I KEEP POINTING OUT.<quoted text> The problem is the intellectual laziness involved in saying that Jesus never even existed.
I have no reason to. The evidence points the other way. You don't like Archya's book, that's clear; she did exhaustive research, and I referred you to that bibliography. Your response was to claim that all of her sources--five pages worth--were wrong, and that you and yours are all correct. And then you accused *me* of playing "pigeon chess."<quoted text> If she admits that Jesus existed,
You obviously operate on a double-standard.
I showed you where your mythical jesus came from, and you continue to ignore it. You *will not* look at the timeline; yet you like to accuse me of "intellectual laziness."<quoted text> then that opens up a new can of worms with questions and answers that are difficult to discuss, let alone accept. If one does not wish to discuss these questions and answers, that's fine. That's free choice. But to sit there and say "Oh Jesus never even existed," is just a cowardly excuse to avoid the questions.
Translation: "I'd be so happy if that uppity 'atheist' would just shut the fuck up and accept my position." It ain't gonna happen.<quoted text>I could totally and respectfully understand if she were to say something like:
"Yes, Jesus existed, yes he got beat up and crucified for challenging the Jewish religious leaders and Roman authority, but I don't think he was a deity or that he rose from the dead."
It wouldn't be honest.<quoted text>I really could respect that honesty
*You* are the one who wants to continue. You tell me to accept your word; I give evidence and reasons why I refuse, and you don't like it.<quoted text>even though I would disagree with it from a historical and theological perspective. And the debate would be over if she didn't want to continue.
I think you're trying to convince *yourself* more than me. This shows the weakness of your own faith.