Why I知 no longer a Christian

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Leviticus 19:31 - "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God."
Leviticus 20:6 - "And the soul that tumeth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, 1 will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people."
1 Samuel 15:23 - "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft...." In this verse Saul was rejected from being king because of witchcraft. See I Samuel 28:7. Saul sought after witches.
Exactly "how" does a 'wizard' defile anyone?
And how could any wizard replace or usurp your deity?

This should be quite interesting...

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<quoted text>I said "nutrition" - your word.
And even were I to allow your deflection to pass, in no way can nutrition, or breastfeeding, be compared to ritual genital mutilation of infants.
There's a movement afoot to combat such behaviour in some Arabic countries, as well as Sub-Saharan Africa.
"Kiss the boo-boo"??? Way to try to trivialize the matter.
Oh, and I know claymores, thank you. The word comes from Gaelic, "Cliabh Mor". Means "Honkin' big sword".
Well at least you didn't tell me only Scots know anything about swords. LOL

Which are you having the problem with, circumcission or the Hassidic ritual that was called pedopholia here ?

They are two seperate issues.

The deflection isn't mine, it was the ladies and now you.

So do you care to comment on the issues or contue playing hero ?

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preterism wrote:
<quoted text> New Testament scriptures in many places tell you that being gay is a sin. Paul as all the writers were divinely inspired to write down only what God told them to, that's why the bible is called the inspired word of God. You're truly are either totally ignorant of the bible or you say these things because you truly hate God.
Then I guess God himself (as his son) must not have been inspired in his teachings, as they are in direct opposition to what Paul taught. If you think Paul was inspired by God, that pretty much leaves Jesus out in the cold.

I don't hate God. I am not ignorant of the Bible. I do not believe in the Bible as a holy book in any way, but that does not equal hate.

What equals hate is your attitude toward everyone who does not believe as you do.

I would suggest you do some reading outside the Bible. You can start with scientific articles on homosexuality. That should open your eyes a little bit.

And you could read the story of Ryan White. If that doesn't melt your heart, nothing will.

Love is the cure, not hate.

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<quoted text>And you've breastfed an infant, so you know more th...
Never mind.
And you have ?

ROFLMFAO

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<quoted text> No. <quoted text> No. <quoted text> They have rights as humans from God.
<quoted text> Legal gay marriage does not do gays any good. Nor does it do children any good who will be raised in an environment where this perversion will have a normalizing effect. It actually hurts gays in the long run. If, in your eyes, that makes me a bigot then i wear your endictment as a badge of honor. it might help if topix non believers think in terms of eternity as opposed to thinking in terms of what is temporal. This life that rushes by and eternity looms in the background. Look into the abyss and the abyss looks back...
Fanatic theism like yours is more harmful to children than two loving parents, no matter what their gender.

You don't need to concern yourself with the eternal whereabouts of anyone but yourself. But you fundies are so afraid that God will not hate his creations as much as you do that you try to impose every hateful law you can on them.

If you truly believed that God will judge them you wouldn't concern yourself with doing it for him.
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<quoted text>That's kind of what I see when I see a post about not allowing witches to live.
Why do they need people who believe differently to be dead? You'd think they don't trust their God to take care of what they see as a 'problem'.
Tell me, how many people you help lead to God in your fifty years of serving God, in your church? Tell me, did you tell everyone in your church that you agreed with witchcraft? Did you tell the people in the church to have abortions? "Their" God was once "your" God........Now you teach others to blaspheme Him. Confession is good for the soul. Repent Nympth, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, and you are moving south. Your future is looking bleak..You still have a little time. You don't want to burn in Hell forever....God is a vengeful God, and you are helping to lead others away from god, and are encouraging the witches to serve their own gods. May God have mercy upon your wicked soul.

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<quoted text>There is no such thing as gay marriage, that is a gay lie. It is called same sex marriage, and it includes same sex adult incest couples. Once same sex marriage is allowed, they will argue what is the hard in adult same sex incest marriages. The answer will be social order does not allow for it, and the response will be that neither did it allow for gays to marry the same sex so it violates the rights of oincest couples,
David N. Glesne, DMin, Senior Pastor at Redeemer Lutheran Church in Fridley, MN, wrote the following statements in his 2005 book Understanding Homosexuality: Perspectives for the Local Church:
"Homosexuality is neither innate and unchangeable nor a 'life-style choice' and changeable at will. The one with homosexual feelings, desires, and behavior is struggling as a result of a developmental problem. This developmental disorder is most often a deeply embedded condition which normally starts in early childhood long before the development of moral and self-awareness and is genuinely experienced by the individual as though it was never absent in one form or another."
http://borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php...
Just because your fanatic theist associations have done the same thing with gays as they did with women, blacks, the Japanese, Chinese and Jews does not mean that it's the 'social order' that should be in place.

Your church's views of homosexuality is nothing less than ignorant and is cruel, harmful to the human race, and just the same way you treated women until you were made to stop.

Creepy, deeply disturbed people like you should take a step back and take a look in the mirror.

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<quoted text> The only way I can help you is by prayer, and this I will continue to do.
I don't think you praying for someone to be as indoctrinated and inhuman as you are will make them so.

Once you see the light, you never return to darkness. I hope you see the light soon. I'll pray that you do.
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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly "how" does a 'wizard' defile anyone?
And how could any wizard replace or usurp your deity?
This should be quite interesting...
Do you remember what I asked you to do so that you would understand what I was saying to you? That is all it would take if you witnessed one time, you would understand...The books are good, but like I said before, they had to have witnessed it to have written the books. Experience is the best way to learn, and understand.

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Mirror Mirror Face wrote:
<quoted text>You are one of the nice and kind posters here, who stands on God's word instead of falling for gay confusion. Lev. 18.
Yeah, right.

Both of you are haters. Both of you would rather hate God's creations rather than do as Jesus told you to do. Neither of you follow the teachings of Jesus when you post here.

But you do follow Paul! Congratulations! You are not Christians but Paulians.

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preterism wrote:
<quoted text> New Testament scriptures in many places tell you that being gay is a sin. Paul as all the writers were divinely inspired to write down only what God told them to, that's why the bible is called the inspired word of God. You're truly are either totally ignorant of the bible or you say these things because you truly hate God.
Please show me one place where Jesus mentioned it.

Had it been so important, and he was God incarnate in your version of Christianity, why didn't he know this would be important enough a subject for him to take a stand?

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Do you remember what I asked you to do so that you would understand what I was saying to you? That is all it would take if you witnessed one time, you would understand...The books are good, but like I said before, they had to have witnessed it to have written the books. Experience is the best way to learn, and understand.
You didn't answer the question. How does a wizard usurp your God? Surely you can answer that.

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<quoted text> Please show me one place where Jesus mentioned it.
Had it been so important, and he was God incarnate in your version of Christianity, why didn't he know this would be important enough a subject for him to take a stand?
It was a non issue in 1st. century Israeli culture where homosexuality was despised. How thick can you get?

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Brilliant~!

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You have turned on dog? Boy you stay off for a few days and you all will turn on yourselves......LOL I don't think he is a misogynist, he is just trying to get your goat.....and from what I have read, he has...LOL Not that I agree with him, but he does enjoy yanking your chain, and you are allowing it....thought you were smarter than that. Breast feeding and your not a "real" witch.....LOL yet everyone of you women, jumped right on it, you fell right into his trap. Now you know why I said "most" of the nonbeliever women were stupid on this thread...... Now, here is your signs......LOL ;) He helped you earn them.....LOL
Misogynist basket case, you are.

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<quoted text>Annie, just out of curiosity..would you rather abortion _not_ be legal?
Whether abortion is legal or not has never been an issue for me. Even if we repealed that decision we would still be dealing with abortions. Instead of them being performed in sterile environments and by qualified doctors we would once again have women in back allies seeking abortions done by whomever thinks that can make a dime off of them.

My feelings are we would be better spending our time and dollars to give women alternatives to an abortion...making it easier for young girls to either keep their babies or placing them for adoption.

The help can stop however after delivery...we need to help these young mothers. I was one of those young single mothers once...life was tough. There were days that I just wanted to give up. If it had not been for my mothers help...who knows...maybe I would have.

IMO...all of these people that are out here screaming about abortion...what have they done to help? How many times have they offered a hand to these young mothers...or young fathers that are trying to raise babies?

They want to yell and scream about the sin of abortion...and they say nothing about the sin of not raising a hand to help.

I had my daughter at a time when people were sending their daughters off to hide the embarrassment. I refused to hide...they were told that if they rejected my child...they also rejected me. I stood my ground. It was the hardest thing that I have ever done...telling my parents...especially my dad...you know...that part time preacher that raised me! He did not take it well. I still stood my ground.

I did the right thing for me WN...I can't make that choice for anyone else. So the answer I suppose is NO...I would not advocate the repeal of Roe vs Wade.

Our time would be so much better spent in education...alternatives to abortion...aiding in the care of these babies that are brought in to this world.

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Knowledge wrote:
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Yet this comment comes from the woman who sat in church 50 years and blasphemes the word of God, Jesus Christ the Holy Communion and the Holy Spirit.....
Priest, Preachers, Ministers pray to God. Witches pray to satan, God is NOT in it.
Deuteronomy 5:7 Thou shalt not have any other gods before me.
8)Though shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9)Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord they God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.
10) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
I know you're obsessed with how long I sat in church and it being the reason why I know more about your Bible than you do, but really, you don't have to quote scripture to me.
In fact, you probably need to read at least the whole chapter of all those books from which you copy verses to see what they're talking about. Then we can discuss it without any apologetics, okay?
Have a good evening with your reading.

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AnnieJ wrote:
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Whether abortion is legal or not has never been an issue for me. Even if we repealed that decision we would still be dealing with abortions. Instead of them being performed in sterile environments and by qualified doctors we would once again have women in back allies seeking abortions done by whomever thinks that can make a dime off of them.
My feelings are we would be better spending our time and dollars to give women alternatives to an abortion...making it easier for young girls to either keep their babies or placing them for adoption.
The help can stop however after delivery...we need to help these young mothers. I was one of those young single mothers once...life was tough. There were days that I just wanted to give up. If it had not been for my mothers help...who knows...maybe I would have.
IMO...all of these people that are out here screaming about abortion...what have they done to help? How many times have they offered a hand to these young mothers...or young fathers that are trying to raise babies?
They want to yell and scream about the sin of abortion...and they say nothing about the sin of not raising a hand to help.
I had my daughter at a time when people were sending their daughters off to hide the embarrassment. I refused to hide...they were told that if they rejected my child...they also rejected me. I stood my ground. It was the hardest thing that I have ever done...telling my parents...especially my dad...you know...that part time preacher that raised me! He did not take it well. I still stood my ground.
I did the right thing for me WN...I can't make that choice for anyone else. So the answer I suppose is NO...I would not advocate the repeal of Roe vs Wade.
Our time would be so much better spent in education...alternatives to abortion...aiding in the care of these babies that are brought in to this world.
Adoption always sounds like a great idea until you check into the cost. There are not enough people with money to adopt the millions of homeless children there are now.

I would think investing in education (for them and their parents!) and making sure they had contraceptives available would be the simplest answer. More contraceptives and education equals many fewer babies.

I personally would not choose abortion, but I have no right to make that decision for women who either do not want a child or who cannot afford one. We have so many children in foster care now that can't be adopted for one reason or another.

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Do you remember what I asked you to do so that you would understand what I was saying to you? That is all it would take if you witnessed one time, you would understand...The books are good, but like I said before, they had to have witnessed it to have written the books. Experience is the best way to learn, and understand.
Off this line...
Have you finished your trek into leviathan?
What have you concluded?

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<quoted text> It was a non issue in 1st. century Israeli culture where homosexuality was despised. How thick can you get?
Hardly.
The Nazarene cult was in the very heart of it all, and were the "black sheep" of the area.
How thick can you get?

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