“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#417239 Nov 4, 2012
Saint Augustine wrote:
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Uh oh.
:-)

Aaaaaw but ya know...I still love ya!

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#417240 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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Good morning Mr. Wiggley!
I always find it amusing but sad when someone selects a name to post under that describes themselves in such a manner. Oh...I know...in actuality they "think" that they are addressing the person that they are responding to. More often than not it is more of a reflection of their own self as often is indicated in the words that they write.
Name calling??? I could write a book on my opinion of that but will shorten it to...if I can't get my point across without resorting to name calling...then I have a problem.
Hi Annie...I agree, it's certainly amusing to some of us but I believe they actually think they are accomplishing something positive in their favor by doing so. What they are not capable of realizing however, is their loss of respect and credibility.
Oh well...
Have a nice day!!!

Since: Jan 11

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#417241 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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:-)
Aaaaaw but ya know...I still love ya!
I can susplain that pink outfit, hon.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#417242 Nov 4, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Good question Mr.W. I have wondered that from the day that I joined this discussion and read all the hate and threats from the "so called" christians. The only answer that I came up with is that these types of believers are "repeating" what their preachers are screaming to them from behind the pulpits. Here are 2 more questions that I have pondered on..
1- I have noticed that most of THESE Believers will also say that they will only believe the KJV Bible..They claim that is the only TRUE version. I have been on here and claimed that we are "Justified By Faith in Grace Alone" They disagree with me on this, HOWEVER, Martin Luther Believed this way as well. If Martin Luther believed this way and the hateful christians only believe his version of the bible, Then WHY dont they BELIEVE what they read???
2- My other question is aimed at these fire and brimstone style christians...While they sit in their pews and listen to their preacher scream these threats, Are they applying this to THEMSELVES or are they looking around at the congregation or even thinking of us on this thread and applying it to EVERYONE ELSE? If they will admit the truth, those who apply it to everyone else are the one's who are actually in the danger that they apply to everyone else.
Lets see how they squirm out of this one..Good day Mr. Wiggley
All we can do is sit back and await the posting of some very interesting explainations.
Hope you have a nice day also Grace.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#417243 Nov 4, 2012
Saint Augustine wrote:
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Caravaggio's The Incredulity of Saint Thomas.
Good Avatar.
But you realize Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian, right?
Why, of course he was silly!
Why else do you suppose the cathaholics would still be crucifying him in their churches!
And that devil fella---there must really be one! How else could they have painted such perfect pictures of him!

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#417244 Nov 4, 2012
Saint Augustine wrote:
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Caravaggio's The Incredulity of Saint Thomas.
Good Avatar.
But you realize Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian, right?
Ok..Each group has their own definition of "Christian" that agrees with their own beliefs about the nature of Jesus, God, church tradition, written text, evolved theology, the cultures in which they are implanted, etc. There appears to be no way to compromise on a single definition that is acceptable to all.

Jesus was Jewish. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life, taught and read in the synagogue, and was called 'rabbi' by some of his followers. The word 'Christian' refers to the followers of 'the Christ'- the Messiah, the anointed one. Jesus, in this context could not have been a 'Christian' by definition. However, Jesus was no ordinary Jew. Christians believe that he was sent by God as God in human form (hence the other name that Jesus used 'Emman\uel' which means 'God with us'). God the Father had revealed himself to the Jews over thousands of years in the stories in the Old Testament (or the 'Old Covenant'/Old Agreement') but the Jews continued to rebel against God to such an extent that even when the prophets foretold the messiah coming the Jews still ignored them.

Jesus, because of his teaching, his miracles and his crucifixion and resurrection, was seen as the fulfilment of the New Covenant (hence the accounts of his life are in the part of the Bible called the New Testament) between God and humankind. He showed the way to God through love and not mindless rules, and he made it very clear that his message was for all humanity and not just for the Jews.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#417245 Nov 4, 2012
Saint Augustine wrote:
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I can susplain that pink outfit, hon.
I know...I know...you were just getting in touch with your feminine side.

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#417246 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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I know...I know...you were just getting in touch with your feminine side.
LOL.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#417247 Nov 4, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>G thinks everything is about him. How could everything *not* be about him? He has 3 degrees, a BMW and a job with good retirement! I'm sure no one else has ever accomplished such a feat! We'll hear about him on the news any day now.
Hopefully the breast feeding conversation has run it's course...I am beyond that stage in life!

Can't believe that I am posting this but...what the hell!

Please no one else read beyond this point!:-(

I personally would like to see this be the next topic that we are educated about...

http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/azhealthtopi...

Vaginal Douching - To Douche or Not to Douche - The Douche Debate Continues

Yes...I know...I am being a smartass this morning! I think I need to go for my walk...

Sorry...don't have a clue as to how this relates to "Why I Am No Longer A Christian"...some how...there has to be a tie in.

Since: Jan 11

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#417248 Nov 4, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Ok..Each group has their own definition of "Christian" that agrees with their own beliefs about the nature of Jesus, God, church tradition, written text, evolved theology, the cultures in which they are implanted, etc. There appears to be no way to compromise on a single definition that is acceptable to all.
Jesus was Jewish. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life, taught and read in the synagogue, and was called 'rabbi' by some of his followers. The word 'Christian' refers to the followers of 'the Christ'- the Messiah, the anointed one. Jesus, in this context could not have been a 'Christian' by definition. However, Jesus was no ordinary Jew. Christians believe that he was sent by God as God in human form (hence the other name that Jesus used 'Emman\uel' which means 'God with us'). God the Father had revealed himself to the Jews over thousands of years in the stories in the Old Testament (or the 'Old Covenant'/Old Agreement') but the Jews continued to rebel against God to such an extent that even when the prophets foretold the messiah coming the Jews still ignored them.
Jesus, because of his teaching, his miracles and his crucifixion and resurrection, was seen as the fulfilment of the New Covenant (hence the accounts of his life are in the part of the Bible called the New Testament) between God and humankind. He showed the way to God through love and not mindless rules, and he made it very clear that his message was for all humanity and not just for the Jews.
Christ is a myth, child.

Jesus, if he ever existed, was a Jew.

The gospels of the NT all are based on the fiction of Mark or proto-Mark.

Mark is a brilliant work. It's Greek is crude, but its literary style is highly sophisticated.

If you suspend your suspension of disbelief and read that text for the fictional work it is, you'll understand.

But I'm not holding my breath.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#417249 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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Okay...I am strange...but your post reminded me of this one...yes...another 1970's song...yes...I still have a long way to go but I am on that journey to 2012! At least in this mind of mine! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9qEEtkuBkEIXX
You bring the memories of The Turtles, Mamas and Papas, Grand Funk Railroad, The Association and other such bands from those good ole days.

Since: Jan 11

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#417250 Nov 4, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Why, of course he was silly!
Why else do you suppose the cathaholics would still be crucifying him in their churches!
And that devil fella---there must really be one! How else could they have painted such perfect pictures of him!
Ya think so?

X posted a history of Satan somewhere on Topix, and I posted a history of hell somewhere here too.

I think both are worth reading.

But, hey, I wrote one of them, so I may be biased.

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#417251 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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....Please no one else read beyond this point!:-(
....
OK.
AnnieJ wrote:
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I personally would like to see this be the next topic that we are educated about...
http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/azhealthtopi...
Vaginal Douching - To Douche or Not to Douche - The Douche Debate Continues
Yes...I know...I am being a smartass this morning! I think I need to go for my walk...
Sorry...don't have a clue as to how this relates to "Why I Am No Longer A Christian"...some how...there has to be a tie in.
Holy crap!

I mean, can I look yet?

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#417252 Nov 4, 2012
Ya know, I miss the great posts from OFT, Hip, X, and a few others here.

It's not the same thread without them.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#417253 Nov 4, 2012
Saint Augustine wrote:
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OK.
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Holy crap!
I mean, can I look yet?
LOL

I should have known...you cheated!

I know...I thought "Holy crap" too...right after I hit enter!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#417254 Nov 4, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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So you still think you know more about your body by virtue of being in it than any man on Earth.
Read "Of Mice and Men". You made a mockery of it.
Of course, your majesty.

Since: Jan 11

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#417255 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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LOL
I should have known...you cheated!
I know...I thought "Holy crap" too...right after I hit enter!
I read nothing.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#417256 Nov 4, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Very weak defense..You gained an hour. Admit it.
Some people cannot admit making a simple mistake. It's like everything they believe in will fall apart if the say 'Oops!' and laugh it off.

There are times when all of us have made errors. Those who are responsible adults with a sense of humor can laugh at our own mistakes and very often, learn from them.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#417257 Nov 4, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Thank You..I love this qoute. God isn't looking for Behavior Modification..He is looking for Heart Trasformation.. The wisdom behind that is.. GOD knew that once our hearts were transformed..Everything else will follow the heart. Grace and Peace to you
Wouldn't it stand to reason that with a 'heart transformation' there would be behavior modification?

Some of the people here who claim to have been 'transformed' when they became a Christian certainly do not _appear_ to have transformed.

When one is transformed, they are changed. Jesus said put off the old man and put on the new. THAT is transformation. I don't see transformation of heart as still doing the same things to try to hurt others as you did before having a 'heart transformation'.

Somewhow, I see it exactly as Jesus said it. But I think I'm one of the few non-Christians on Topix who actually knows what Jesus said, much less has ever tried to live by it.

I fail miserably at times. I admit that. But I'm much closer than some of his most ardent adherents on this thread and many others. I don't wish anyone, not anyone, ill. I don't want bad things to happen to bad people. I want them to find something that will make them feel loved, worthwhile and happy. I think that's the real difference in transformation. You don't have to like someone. All you have to do is care enough about them to want good things to happen to them regardless of what has been said or done by that person.

If you are truly transformed, you will not try to do God's job of judgment for him. You'll know it's covered. You won't need to feel superior to others as you will realize that however much you try to live a good and moral life, you will fail at times just like the person you're judging and saying will go to hell for eternity.

You won't have any need to deny others the same rights you claim, as if you are sure of the power of your God, you will know that those things will be taken care of, too. You don't have to see it in your lifetime to know that.

So I think some people are very low on faith that God will do his job of judgment. They want God to do it on their terms, when they want it done, and as harshly as they would do it themselves. That is NOT a transformation of heart. That is going forward in even a worse way than when they were the ones who were judged!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#417258 Nov 4, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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Okay...I am strange...but your post reminded me of this one...yes...another 1970's song...yes...I still have a long way to go but I am on that journey to 2012! At least in this mind of mine! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9qEEtkuBkEIXX
LOVE this song. Always have. We should all get in musical mode and 'Don't worry, be happy!'

How could you not be happy watching Robin Williams?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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