Why I知 no longer a Christian

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Never entered my mind. It sounded Native American to me, but then I'm of NA heritage so I am predisposed in that way.
Nearly identical meaning WN. Lakota are some of the closest to spirit and nature. IMO

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1. Jesus never said He was God.
2. Ishmael was the first born of Abraham and Hagar was Abraham's second wife.
There was nothing wrong with having more than one wife at that time. However, Abraham's divorcing her was a crime under Canaanite law but Abraham's sacrifice of Ishmael to Ba'El was not.
LOL - "cast out the bondwoman and her son for he will not share the inheritance with the son of promise"

this is what the entire mideast crisis is based on!

while you've been playing with dungeons and dragons, i've been seeking God;)

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Just like you discount all the evidence to the contrary.
Cite the verse where Jesus says "I am God." and we can settle this matter once and for all.
IT has been settled once and for all and the entire Bible is the scripture that i'm citing to you as proof. dig in!;)

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus would have been considered a bastard at the time of his birth, as Joseph and Mary were not married. Don't throw stones. People tend to pick them up and throw them back at the glass house you live in.
born of a virgin, but, yes, that's what joseph thought until he received a vision from God:)

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So let me get this straight... God sent his son, who is actually himself to kill himself so that people don't have to slaughter animals to atone for a concept called sin, that he had to create in the first place, since God is the creator of all things?
Yeah, sounds like the truth to me.... Sigh...
somethings bothering you enough to feel the need to debate about here:)

you created sin. now, do you care to take responsibility enough to have it irradicated in you?:)

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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i agree with you and so does the Creator, so much so that the penalty for failure is death!
i hope you don't fail in any of the criteria and it's too bad for you that you don't get to establish the criteria...
Death is not a penalty. It is but a part of the process of the perpetual cycling of the essence of energy. Your biological vessel is merely a part of that cycle.
It is not "special", except to the perspective of the individual cognizance that perceives it as such.

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> I agree that Jesus was not a fraud. Making him the Christ was. But they still can't believe in his words, they have to turn to Paul.
The Gospels state that Jesus is Christ. Do you believe that Paul wrote the Gospels?

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I'm going to take the 3rd option. Sit here, drink coffee, and watch you implode as you get more and more angry about people mocking a place that you call the "lake of fire". Because there is no such place. No justice for those who mock you. All of your work to convince people otherwise is in vain.
no lake of fire?! where do you think that stuff bubbling out of volcanos is coming from???

i suppose you're gonna try telling me that there is no heaven either even though it continues to expand at an immeasurable rate!

i know where i wanna go between the two ......:)

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scambuster wrote:
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I'm going to take the 3rd option. Sit here, drink coffee, and watch you implode as you get more and more angry about people mocking a place that you call the "lake of fire". Because there is no such place. No justice for those who mock you. All of your work to convince people otherwise is in vain.
BTW - assuming that i'm angry and a hater just cuz i disagree with you is so.....'gay' for lack of a better term.

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Blood sacrifices were started long before your God came into being. From the most ancient times, people tried to appease their Gods with animal and even human sacrifices. Of course, that never stopped a tornado, a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake or a war from being lost.
To think that a human being was sacrificed for someone else's sin is a new tack on the scapegoat theory. Not only that, it is immoral to allow someone else to die for what YOU do.
Those who are the least responsible for their own actions are most attracted to this religion, and they don't mind having had someone die to cover their as*es.
I have never done anything in my life that deserved death, and certainly not someone else's death.
It's the draw of fundamentalist Christians who those who are afraid they will have to answer for their actions and want to escape punishment.
I've got news for you: If there is a life after this one, the only just thing for a God to do is make it a life based on your actions in this life...not kill off himself (as if a deity could actually die!) to excuse you of anything you do. What a putrid way to walk blindly through life! Jesus NEVER, EVER taught such a concept.
umm.....sorry but NOTHING started before my God:)

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I think you know that is not what I was saying in the least. In the end I believe that we will each be held accountable for our lives. I do not believe that I am discounting any benefits by taking full responsibility for my life. To be honest I find it odd that you don稚 seem to think we should.
how in the world are you ever gonna even come close to taking responsibility for failing to "love the Lord your God with all your heart mind, soul and strength" and not "loving others as yourself"???

good luck with that!

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> Your religion doesn't get to establish the criteria for anyone but it's followers, silly. The rest of earth's population establish criteria based on something else.
That's the trouble with rabid Christianity...you think you can establish your religious rules for everyone. You can't, and it pisses you off.
perhaps we should all follow the water nymph's criteria of.......what the hell is it that you're deciding to believe today???

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I have my original D&D stuff from the 70's. Worth a few grand now.
What is D&D?

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>By the way..you're going to die just like everyone else. Your body will rot in the ground just like everyone else's.
You don't have proof of anything past that. You're just such a sissy that you can't stand to think that this is the end of you.
Believe me, if there is any justice, you'll get the same life you've had this time, but it will be harder because you didn't learn any lessons in humanity this time around. Next time you will be forced to learn those lessons.
ahhh.....so the criteria of the day is reincarnation!
i reject your cult on the basis of what my God says
"it is appointed on to man once to die and after this, the judgement"

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waaasssuuup wrote:
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well now, w_n, you're still not receiving the 'big picture' even after years of people explaining it to you:
the human nature is a nature that's been fallen & corrupted from the nature of God and the nature that He originaly put in adam.
thus "unless you are born again, you shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven" Jesus
I think you are reading more into nature than is necessary, and because of that, missing much of the intricate and actuality that it takes to understand how it works and your true relationship and place within that totality.

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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>Death is not a penalty. It is but a part of the process of the perpetual cycling of the essence of energy. Your biological vessel is merely a part of that cycle.
It is not "special", except to the perspective of the individual cognizance that perceives it as such.
we weren't made to die, but death came with the consequence of sin. plan b is death and ressurection with a new spirit-body, which in God's wisdom i'm sure is better than the original plan!

it's good over here and there's enough room for everyone, as the continual expanding of the universe testifies:)

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Tony17 wrote:
You claim to have read so much yet anytime I ask you a question you avoid answering me like the plague. Hmmm. I wonder why. One day I asked you why Cain is not listed in Adam's geneology and I'm still waiting for your answer. But you claim to have read the OT scriptures.
When I asked you about Cain you drew up like a prune. This is how one can test the spirits. Especially LYING SPIRITS. Test them by the word of God as I have tested you and you failed miserably my friend.
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<quoted text>This is true. They have a set agenda and they recoil from the truth.
Does being in a non-Christian forum, have something to do with your agenda?

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Tony17 wrote:
...God will not allow an unbeliever to understand His word and most unbelievers will will always have a veil over their eyes when it comes to comprehending the word of God .....

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Citation please.

Where does "God" specifically state this?

How did you come to know the mind of "God" to implicately state this?

Why do you try to mislead others by making things up?

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I think you are reading more into nature than is necessary, and because of that, missing much of the intricate and actuality that it takes to understand how it works and your true relationship and place within that totality.
sorry, but you're talking to some one who's literally swaped natures and thereore i'm coming for a perspective that you cannot have unless you've been where i am too.

i'm not saying this as boasting or antagonistic; it just is what it is and it's available to all who will humble themselves and receive:)

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welp wrote:
<quoted text>i guess youll know when jesus gets here.
...and when is that going to be?

That's right - it is only speculation.

But that is what conclusion one will receive when only believing in a portion of what Jesus taught.

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