Why I’m no longer a Christian

“the Light One”

Since: Oct 12

Delphi

#411729 Oct 17, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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The definitions I gave did not say "superhuman" they said "supernatural" as in defy all the laws in the universe. Make the sun stop in the universe, cover the Earth with more water than exists this side of the asteroid belt and bring rotting cadavers back to perfect life and health.
Read again
"deity - a being, NATURAL, supernatural or preternatural, with SUPERHUMAN POWERS OR QUALITIES, and who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred. Believers may consider or believe that they can communicate with the deity, who can respond supernaturally to their entreaties, and that the deity's myths are true." - Max Weber. "The Sociology of Religion"
Pagan Gods are not supernatural, Only the Monotheistic God claims to be that. That is because Abramism puts God outside of his creation. They put a God above creation, hence the name Super-natural (super=above)

It is no telling what is possible, man is discovering new powers all the time previously held impossible. Our knowledge of the forces of nature remains limited. Pagan Gods are never described as all powerful but the principles behind of forces of nature. And yes the axis of the earth can suddenly tilt and cause huge floods. Who knows what more is possible, we only accept these things now, because we found out they happened.

Take for instance Greek Gods, They were born, their rule was considered limited like man's life was limited. This fate could not be changed. Of course these are allegorical writings. They were written by poets trying to express how principles of Nature interact. They were not considered to be Gods laws or that kind of nonsense. Other poets gave different descriptions. For instance one would regard Amor (attraction) the son of Aphrodite (love) and Ares (lust) and another one would regard Amor a primordial force. In those days they did not see that as contradictory but viewing the same phenomenon from a different angle. Pagans welcomed original new views on reality. That was not blasphemous.

It is with monotheism that over-rational intellectuals start to create complicated explanations to bring everything in one system of thought without contradictions. But they never succeeded. It was the precursor of modern science that is still looking for a universal theory to fit reality in model governed by strict laws and relations.

Whenever monotheism found things inexplicable they called it the supernatural power of God, whenever science finds things inexplicable they call it coincidence. They plug the holes.

In Paganism it was never believed that reality could be understood in a complex system of rational thought. Wise men gave their view on things but never claimed it to be absolute truth. The problems began when they started to write down these views because the oral tradition deteriorated. What is written down becomes inflexible. Then intellectuals started to try to bring all writings into one system of thought. The writings once thought to be inspired by the Gods, then became the word of God. And it was used by the priesthood to make people bend to them.

Simply look at the Tenach, most commandments simply serve the priesthood. All those obligatory sacrifices people had to do through the priesthood. God commands that people no longer worship him directly, but use the priesthood. Who made these rules? God? No the priesthood themselves.

The Roman empire did not have a priest-class before Christianity, once the had one, it started to destroy all the competition. They are aggressive and greedy, but make it believe, it is their Gods will. They hide behind God given books they wrote/edited themselves to serve their purpose.

We do not need churches or books. If we want spiritual contact they are only an obstacle. It is like eating processed food, processed food is often unhealthy, low in nutritional value, it replaces fresh natural foods in the stores. Why? Because middle man makes a good profit on it.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411730 Oct 17, 2012
Phoibos Apollon wrote:
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Read again
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Pagan Gods are not supernatural,....
So animal headed people, a giant invisible woman pushing the moon around and gods with horns growing out of their heads, ad infinitum are "natural"?

ROFLMAO

and you make fun of their Zombie God ?

BTW, investigate the what the use of the word "or" means then read the definitians I gave you again.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#411731 Oct 17, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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"antagonism against the Spirit of Christ"
Wrong - you keep forgetting (probably just ouot of spite) that I believe in all of Jesus and his teachings of the Spirit, so I also believe Jesus' Spirit transcended.
Please stop making up lies about me.
Afterall, you are just one of many who doesn't believe in ALL of Jesus.
What will be your next attempt to discredit me? Hmmmm.....
i'm not making things up nor am i against you, i'm simply pointing out that the things you've added to Christ's words nullify the whole idea of His teachings. drop the double secret 'recently discovered' mumbo jumbo and let's get real!:)

"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book"

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#411732 Oct 17, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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So animal headed people, a giant invisible woman pushing the moon around and gods with horns growing out of their heads, ad infinitum are "natural"?
ROFLMAO
and you make fun of their Zombie God ?
BTW, investigate the what the use of the word "or" means then read the definitians I gave you again.
you're a sucker for satan

“the Light One”

Since: Oct 12

Delphi

#411733 Oct 17, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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I dont consider you a christian. You dont show any signs of having any fruits of the spirit. I believe young girl had you pegged right.. You seem to have a lot of bitterness toward other women but when a man is on here, You seem to be all bubbley..You adultress you ;\
judge judy wrote:
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You've been reduced to a name-caller.
You are constantly exposed as a christian faker.
Knowledge wrote:
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So that would explain why you don't have sex, you really must be old. That is why you made that comment to me...Makes sense.I am retired this year. Yes I do have a hatred for witches, not the person, but the demons who owns you. They have only showed me evil and I have been through many... So you are an electic. Good for you, you make your own rules. I know what wicca is, it has destroyed many lives. Wicca is Loving....hell no...only to those who go along with it. As you just proved....Rubbing my hands with glee.....I don't want anyone to burn, not even you. You could be saved too....just repent and ask Jesus in your life.....it is that easy.
One Christian carrying the spirit of Jesus fighting another.

And what does it turn out to be? Bitter middle aged women looking for love and trashing other women with all the posion they can muster.

Well it was a pleasure, discussing with you, I am moving on.

Bless you all

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#411735 Oct 17, 2012
Phoibos Apollon wrote:
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Same sales team as Grace?
Not hardly. But I do know the teachings. Spent a long time as a Christian. But I do know the difference in how people present themselves and represent their religion.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#411736 Oct 17, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Christianity defined has to do with the person and teachings of Jesus Christ. That is the standard definition. If you can show where Christ taught His followers to do genocide then you would have a point. As it is now you have a peaceful coexistence of logical contradiction in your head if you define Christianity in terms of the Crusades. Either that or you are using humpty dumpty definitions where words mean what you want them to mean.
Jesus didn't teach it. It's his claimed followers who say they did it in his name. Big difference.

It just goes to show that the Bible can be interpreted in any way by anyone who wishes to have the bible as a backup for their actions. Just as waassuuppp uses it to denegrate women here on this thread and others use it to be nasty, some use it for the betterment of themselves and those around them. All in all, the Bible is mostly used as a weapon against non-Christians.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#411737 Oct 17, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>That said, I would have to ask how you justify any rationality of Christianity in the crusades and the inquisitions. All were agendas of genocide.
Please explain that if you can.
very very simple: the conquered world was so-called 'christian'; similar to how stalen killing all his people trough a socialist/atheisit agenda was 'communist'.

was the roman empire truly following the Spirit of Christ with it's tyranny? i think not! all one really has to do to know the will of God is to read the biographies/gospels of His Son:)

"I have not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them" Jesus

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#411738 Oct 17, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see it that way. These individuals have much knowledge to share. You must get beyond the personality of the messenger, or your interpretation of the message is adulterated by misconception due to emotions clouding proper discernment.
i can appreciate this & in general it's very good advice. altho, my problem is not with their personalities (i actually appreciate the passion & fight), but my problem is the adulterated gospel that they promote. i just try to keep them in check with it and bring some light:)

“the Light One”

Since: Oct 12

Delphi

#411739 Oct 17, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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So animal headed people, a giant invisible woman pushing the moon around and gods with horns growing out of their heads, ad infinitum are "natural"?
ROFLMAO
and you make fun of their Zombie God ?
BTW, investigate the what the use of the word "or" means then read the definitians I gave you again.
I already explained that, it is symbol language. People today take everything literal. Literature makes thinking literal.

Woman means nature. Man means spirit. Giant Woman would be like giant force of nature. Animals were regarded as messengers of the Gods. So animal headed people simply means Gods interacting between spiritual world (animal head) and earthly world (human body).

Horns on the head is a symbol meaning fertility. People that do not know symbol language start to take these things literal. That is why Chinese now grind horns to boost their sex-life.

Your convictions are based on lack of understanding of the original meaning. Only a part of the people ever understand this deeper meaning. Christianity destroyed the spiritual and learned class to destroy higher knowledge and make seem previous civilizations as primitive. Even the Greek were called barbarians.

This was my last post here

I Wish you good luck on your life journey.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411740 Oct 17, 2012
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>you're a sucker for satan
You just suck.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#411741 Oct 17, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Not hardly. But I do know the teachings. Spent a long time as a Christian. But I do know the difference in how people present themselves and represent their religion.
Is it just me, or does that passive/aggressive instigatory style seem kinda familiar?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411742 Oct 17, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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.... the things you've added to Christ's words nullify the whole idea of His teachings.....
ROFLMAO

That is all Chritiianity does. Otherwise all you would have in the NT is Mark and Thomas.

Since: Jul 10

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#411743 Oct 17, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Not hardly. But I do know the teachings. Spent a long time as a Christian. But I do know the difference in how people present themselves and represent their religion.
Simply said you really need to study your bible.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411744 Oct 17, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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.... the adulterated gospel that they promote....
That is the whole of Christianity.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#411745 Oct 17, 2012
Phoibos Apollon wrote:
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Jesus himselves tortures unbelievers forever, that is crime far worse than death. After death come the next life, that is what even Jews believe and Christians till the 5th century. But eternal torture (damnation) is a never ending suffering. So Jesus does more than genocide, he is the absolute king of psychopaths.
With this threat he inspires his followers to convert people with any means possible. He makes this very clear. He comes to bring war he says. He does not directly say kill them but he makes his intentions very clear.
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this text was the justification for the inquisition:
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But they could have used this one too:
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Christianities history of torture and genocide is based on scripture. These were not conducted by criminals but by deeply religious men and on order of the church.
All modern Christians add to that are a layer of new lies.
you're showing your true colors.

do you want to be delivered of the legion of devils tormenting you?:)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411746 Oct 17, 2012
Phoibos Apollon wrote:
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I already explained that, it is symbol language.....
Just like all Jewish and Christian scriptures.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411747 Oct 17, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
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you're showing your true colors.
do you want to be delivered of the legion of devils tormenting you?:)
That sounds like a death threat.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#411748 Oct 17, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> Simply said you really need to study your bible.
ROFLMAO

I am betting you don't read the Bible, I know you don't understand it.

Since: Oct 12

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#411753 Oct 17, 2012
boo wrote:
Moon wind dancer---------DYKE1
Grace walker----------DYKE2
Two LIZZYS looking for love
In all the wrong places
Looking for love in hidden places look up your moons MWD blessed pee that grace drinks as tea!!!
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