Why I’m no longer a Christian
Knowledge

United States

#398961 Sep 17, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>It is sad that you have such limited intellect and understanding of the english language.
That is not my problem.
Are you going to keep trying to entice me into your childish tit for tat dancing, or are you going to grow the balls to answer the posited challenge?
You are like the little bully who finally gets his azz kicked, then calls everyone names from afar, so he can't be beat again.
This comes from the pot calling the kettle black. Too funny! I think his intellectual ideas lost you, before you read his first paragraph.
benard

United States

#398963 Sep 17, 2012
Ok all you that say the earth is a billion yrs old here is something !!!! So much cosmic dust falls on the moon every year and IF the earth was that old as YOU say it is!!! When neal armstrong steped on the moon by YOUR calculation's it should have went up to his calf BUT it was only a inch! So science again THINKS it knows something and GUESSES again WRONG!!!!!
So keep up that topic it has more holes in it than swiss cheese

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#398964 Sep 17, 2012
@ Eye Heart Jesus:
"Let me please add that some people point out Chrisians as being 'hateful' towards other ideas and non believers.
This is completely false.. And actually goes completely against what Christianity offers."
/// Just because it goes against what "christianity" teaches does not mean that people are not using the bible, your 'god" and religion as a crutch to spread hate towards their fellow (unbelieving) man. And you may identify these people as "not true christians" but to them they are "true christians" and spreading the word along with condemning those that do not believe is what their "god" wants and expects.///

"What i do notice, are those unbelievers who are spewing with hatred, simply because they reject our Christian beliefs."
/// See, it does work both ways. Although I am of the belief that atheists receive more than they dish out. Take this thread for example "Why I'm no longer a christian" - to me that reads that this thread was created for people who are atheist or do not identify themselves as christian anymore. It was not a thread created for christians to come here and yell at, bash, condemn, preach, pray to, convert or anything else that a person identifying themselves as a christian does to make themselves feel better.
And so then I must ask, why are you here? Unless you are no longer a christian then you are here to do something that the non-believers here do not want and that is to be told that they are wrong (which they are most certainly not) or that you wish to bring them to or back to the flock (which I am confident they do not want either).///

"Let's look at the motives a christian wants to lead unbelievers to Christ because they love people and want to share their truth with them:)
/// Let's look at the motives of an atheist or a logical thinker (same thing) who talks or debates with christians in order for them to see the impossibilities of the bible, to see that some things just can't have possibly happened and/or were an archaic way of explaining something before modern science discovered a logical explanation. Aren't they the same as you in wanting to share the REAL truth? Whether they "love" you or not, don't you think that it is wonderful that they are trying to move you forward instead of backwards in time?
How does your "truth sharing" sound now that you are receiving it from the other side?///

"Now, the unbeliever, usually is very resentful, defensive and bitter because they don't want to accept any of what the Christian wants to offer- so they are enraged, full of hate"
/// Resentful? How about annoyed? Offended? Inconvenienced at having to tell someone "No thanks" several times before they leave your front porch. Annoyed at people who are on a thread dedicated towards non-christians just so they can insult, ridicule and troll. Offended at someone who thinks everyone wants to know their "god" and receive its blessing...pretty self-centered wouldn't you say?///

"Christians want to help and pull people out of the mud,"
/// So you are now saying her that you are better than me? That your way of life is better than anyone elses (unless they are your kind of "christian"). That you know better than me, or anyone, about how someone should live their life or how they are living their life. With this comment from you alone, you are delusional and a reason that atheists get pissed off at christians.///

"that they would kill Christians if it was their choice."
/// Now you are succumbing to the brainwashing of whatever little sect of christianity that you subscribe to. You believe that it is detrimental to your life itself that you convert atheists to christianity?///

If you feel like praying, now would be a good time to do so for whatever guidance you need to give you a reality check on your faith and my lack thereof.
Knowledge

United States

#398965 Sep 17, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you..I work for a vet also and I dont think its the lowest job anybody could have. I actually work in the kennels and part of my job IS scooping up dog poop AND I am a Christain..I couldn't find the original post that Knowledge posted so I am answering on yours. I am going to college and if it takes scooping dog crap to get me through it then so be it..I love animals and I love taking care of them. Just remember Knowledge, One day, YOU could be in a nursing home and somebody will have to change your diaper and clean up after you. What if nobody would do something so "LOW"? What would happen to you? A job like ours takes a loving heart. At least we are working and earn a honest day's pay..
Evidently you have not read the past posts August to present. Kait was always telling me that I had only a GED, knowing I received a degree in Criminal Justice. She said she also received a degree, as a vet assistant. She has called me retarded, stupid, and every name a person could imagine since I got on this thread, as many others. It is a joke that I use on her, for her past and present behaviors since she attacks me everyday. I came on here being nice, trying to help as you. I was only made fun of and scorned for my beliefs in Jesus Christ, as all other Christians who are on this thread. The ones who have been on here for awhile at least. Before I worked for the Dept. of Corrections, I worked as a CNA in the nursing home, a waitress. I have animals on our acres. I do know what it is like to pick up crap. I worked in a prison and have had things thrown in my face, been threatened with my life, and my family. So before you accuse people on this thread of doing something, maybe you should go back and check the history of why the Christians are taking up for themselves. If you last a couple of months on here, and you give the scriptures to these people, be prepared for a battle. If you tell them sorcery is a sin....just see how many people jump on you and threaten you. Make sure you use your scriptures, and lets see how innocent your attitude is...Remember the Bible tells us to be angry and sin not.....I believe you will find that in the fourth chapter of Ezekiel. Good lesson for you to learn... Remember these people are not your average Joe...that hate God and everything it stands for. They will use everything they can against you. Since you say you are a Christian, get to work with the scriptures...the TRUTH....but you also have to warn them if they do not want to have anything to do with God and his begotten Son Jesus Christ that there is an eternal Hell. You are on here to save souls.....are you not? If that is your full purpose, and if you "complete, the love, hell fire, and damnation scriptures" that is the mission for God..... Jesus sent the disciples to give both, when the love didn't work, it took hell, fire and damnation. Come back and tell me, your views then......
Knowledge

United States

#398966 Sep 17, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
God willing, you will succeed. Ameen
BMZ is a muslim who blasphemes Jesus Christ all of the time. He believes Christians are all bound for hell. Go back and read the history of the past few months. Don't let him deceive you.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#398967 Sep 17, 2012
benard wrote:
Ok all you that say the earth is a billion yrs old here is something !!!! So much cosmic dust falls on the moon every year and IF the earth was that old as YOU say it is!!! When neal armstrong steped on the moon by YOUR calculation's it should have went up to his calf BUT it was only a inch! So science again THINKS it knows something and GUESSES again WRONG!!!!!
So keep up that topic it has more holes in it than swiss cheese
Uhhh.... there is the effect of gravity on the moon. Just as there is gravity on earth which packs dirt and keeps rocks fro mmagically floating into the air, there is gravity on the moon although it is about 5/6 less than that of Earth.

Do you ever think of looking up information before posting? It would save you some embarassment. And what does this have to do with the Earth being 4.5 billion years old?
Knowledge

United States

#398968 Sep 17, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank You..There is nothing to forgive. I am not offended by your post. I love people because we all are fellow human beings not because we believe the same way or not. Everybody has a right to their belief. The way that I see things now are simple...In a way, We are all right. If I believe that God is real, Then He is real and in my life and if you choose not to believe then He is not real for you and not in your life..Does that make sense? I guess I am on here because I have been reading this for some time and though I do love my brothers and sisters in Christ, I feel they are not representing GOD, They are representing themselves in the Name of God. The God that I have become to know is One of love and patients and we should be more like that. The God that I know brought me out of a 17 year struggle with cocaine and years of lonliness from a prison cell. The God that told me in Jeremiah 29, That He knew the plans He had for me, Plans to give me hope and a future and Thats what He did after I give up on life MY way and give in to a God that I didn't know. When I reached rock bottom, I hit my knee's and decided to stop trying and start trusting..I have been clean for 8 wonderful years and I am now working a great job while I take college courses at night to become a Substance Abuse Counselor. I appreciate your kind words and I hope we can continue talking from time to time..I would like that. The death of my dad was a terrible thing to go through and this vacation was just what I needed. I miss dad but without my faith and the peace that I know can only come from God, I would have never been able to go forward with my goals but I am and will get through just fine..Thanks my friend
I am sorry for the death in your family. But if they died knowing God, you will meet them again someday. I am glad that you have cleaned up your life, and you have became a Christian sense. It is hard to stay off of the drugs, but with God helping you, there is no doubt that you can. If it has been eight years since you were last in prison, you know you have accomplished much. As you probably already know the recidivism rate is 80%. I am glad you are in the 20% category. I disagree with you on your beliefs if he is not real for you....God didn't want anyone to perish...hell was not made for humans it was made for the fallen angels. Man is the one who came against God. We all have free will, if a person who does not want to believe or blasphemes the Word of God, will not go to heaven, they will go to hell. I don't want anyone to go to hell, if it can be prevented. I hope you take my advice and read the last few months so you will have an idea what this thread is all about.
If you feel that the Christians are misrepresenting themselves that is on you....if you choose to be a Christian, you have to be cold or hot......you can not be lukewarm. It is the word of God not mine.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adultereses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Revelation 3:16 So then because thou are lukewarm, and neither cold no hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Don't let them entice you....Stick with God's word.
Knowledge

United States

#398970 Sep 17, 2012
Knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
Evidently you have not read the past posts August to present. Kait was always telling me that I had only a GED, knowing I received a degree in Criminal Justice. She said she also received a degree, as a vet assistant. She has called me retarded, stupid, and every name a person could imagine since I got on this thread, as many others. It is a joke that I use on her, for her past and present behaviors since she attacks me everyday. I came on here being nice, trying to help as you. I was only made fun of and scorned for my beliefs in Jesus Christ, as all other Christians who are on this thread. The ones who have been on here for awhile at least. Before I worked for the Dept. of Corrections, I worked as a CNA in the nursing home, a waitress. I have animals on our acres. I do know what it is like to pick up crap. I worked in a prison and have had things thrown in my face, been threatened with my life, and my family. So before you accuse people on this thread of doing something, maybe you should go back and check the history of why the Christians are taking up for themselves. If you last a couple of months on here, and you give the scriptures to these people, be prepared for a battle. If you tell them sorcery is a sin....just see how many people jump on you and threaten you. Make sure you use your scriptures, and lets see how innocent your attitude is...Remember the Bible tells us to be angry and sin not.....I believe you will find that in the fourth chapter of Ezekiel. Good lesson for you to learn... Remember these people are not your average Joe...that hate God and everything it stands for. They will use everything they can against you. Since you say you are a Christian, get to work with the scriptures...the TRUTH....but you also have to warn them if they do not want to have anything to do with God and his begotten Son Jesus Christ that there is an eternal Hell. You are on here to save souls.....are you not? If that is your full purpose, and if you "complete, the love, hell fire, and damnation scriptures" that is the mission for God..... Jesus sent the disciples to give both, when the love didn't work, it took hell, fire and damnation. Come back and tell me, your views then......
Correction: eight years of being clean...how long have you been out?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#398971 Sep 17, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I do? Oh, I keep forgetting.
:o)
"double-secret"?
Where did you get that?
BTW - non of the texts in the Bible are verified as "eye witnesses", because there are no contemporary texts from that age to confirm of your conclusion.
i got the term 'double secret' from the movie animal house. it's both funny and appropriate when describing the nonesense you contribute.

BTW - you're a liar!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#398972 Sep 17, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Tony...I asked what you thought...not for scripture.
However...I have read those scriptures before...they do not explain what makes you feel as if you are an "ELECT". I think most Christians believe they are.
So often on this thread Christians complain that no one will discuss with them...yet when someone tries...all they get is scripture.
That is not discussion...it is cut/paste.
When someone does that...my first thought is...they have no answers to give...so they go find scripture and hope that no one asks them to explain it!
I had a Christian get highly upset with me for asking..."but what does that scripture mean to you?". LOL They were infuriated.
Okay...I have an outing planned today anyway so...never mind!
Sorry but many times it's best to let the word of God speak for you. Having said that another scripture comes to mind but I guess since you have no interest in what the word of God says....I WON'T CAST MY PEARLS BEFORE SWINE. Hope you have a great day.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#398973 Sep 17, 2012
Knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
This comes from the pot calling the kettle black. Too funny! I think his intellectual ideas lost you, before you read his first paragraph.
Do you have enough faith in your deity?

Are you up for the test?

This is an outright provocation of challenge to you and/or your deity!
Are either of you up to it?--- I certainly am!--so let's have at it!
Bring your deity on...I will give it 24 hours to smite(destroy) me...or you must concede that it does NOT even exist!
Are you up to that challenge?
A simple yes or no will do.
We can set the time from the moment you answer "YES".
If you win-your deity will be proven.
If you lose, you must concede that your deity does not exist.
So, what say ye?

This is open to any and all cristers who wish to participate.
Eye Heart Jesus

Saint Catharines, Canada

#398974 Sep 17, 2012
love_spell wrote:
<quoted text>
you didn't offend anyone, you are not that significant!
please stop blaming your phone for your errors.
everyone makes typos. the difference between you christurds and others..........others admit their mistakes and own them. christurds blame others and even inanimate objects. when your hypocrisy is exposed, you cry persecution.
Awww Im sorry I offended u sweety:)
You seem very hurt and ever so bitter... Did my apology offend u too?
Jesus love u :)
Eye Heart Jesus

Saint Catharines, Canada

#398975 Sep 17, 2012
Lamar wrote:
<quoted text>
To disagree does not translate into hate by any means. Many of us have heard your message plenty of times and reject it...period.
Which of the 38,000+ christain sects/cults do you belong to and tell us why the other 37,999 are wrong.
Also, threatening non-believers with eternal damnation does not translate into love by any means.
I appreciate your response and your point of view... I wasn't necessarily speaking about all but a majority.. And indeed their hatred is evident.

Nobody threatens anyone with eternal damnation but God. That is His place.. Since He is God,,, He makes the rules. If u choose not to accept Him, then u r choosing separation from Him at will.
Again, if a Christian wants to share Jesus with u, Its out of love.... At least for me.. I can only speak for myself.
I believe in a God who created all in perfection... But man had failed and fallen short by introducing sin into the world. It was Man's free will to choose. He chose that path and God has given us that choice, but He also laid down the consequences in advanced.
God is God for a reason and wants and knows what's best for us- I can't answer everything, but I trust in Him who created me:)

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#398976 Sep 17, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Rocket surgeon?
Same like a brain scientist.

Hehehe.
Eye Heart Jesus

Saint Catharines, Canada

#398977 Sep 17, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have enough faith in your deity?
Are you up for the test?
This is an outright provocation of challenge to you and/or your deity!
Are either of you up to it?--- I certainly am!--so let's have at it!
Bring your deity on...I will give it 24 hours to smite(destroy) me...or you must concede that it does NOT even exist!
Are you up to that challenge?
A simple yes or no will do.
We can set the time from the moment you
answer "YES".
If you win-your deity will be proven.
If you lose, you must concede that your deity
does not exist.
So, what say ye?
This is open to any and all cristers who wish to
participate.
Sure!! I'm up to it! As soon as YOU can prove to me that God DOESN'T exist:)
You first:)

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#398978 Sep 17, 2012
Eye Heart Jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure!! I'm up to it! As soon as YOU can prove to me that God DOESN'T exist:)
You first:)
This IS the test, which I see you are afraid to prove by dancing around the obvious.

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#398979 Sep 17, 2012
@ Knowledge:

Abridged from prior posting:
"If you last a couple of months on here, and you give the scriptures to these people, be prepared for a battle. If you tell them sorcery is a sin....just see how many people jump on you and threaten you...
Remember these people are not your average Joe...that hate God and everything it stands for...
You are on here to save souls.....are you not?"

/// Why are you here? What is your purpose? Is your purpose here to deliver the message of your "god" to those who do not believe? Based on the title of this thread, the people here once were or identified themselves as "christian" so IMO you are not telling them anything that they already know.
So I ask again, "Why are you here"? To shame non-believers that they will spend eternity burning in "hell" for their non-belief and blasphemy? You don't think that we already know of this fairy tale and do not believe in it either?
So I will ask again, "Why are you here"? Because you are stubborn and feel that if you leave you are defeated and "satan" has won? IMO you are here not to "save" anyone but to defend your faith and your "god". You are here because you feel that evil is abound on this thread from heathens and you must try your best to put a stop to it...so then how do you stop someone from their belief or lack thereof? Why with proof of course, truth and evidence...something that you do not have otherwise you would not have faith, you would have fact.

I really am not trying to irritate you but I do question your motives here and the "advice" you are giving others. Do you think you are the first person to try and spread the word of your "god" to me and others who do not want it? How would you feel if I knocked on your door this evening to talk to you about the great discoveries of modern man that prove your buybull is a great work of fiction? How about if Kaitlen sets up a celebration of her belief on the sidewalk in front of your house? Are you seeing my point yet?
Unless I am mistaken, it is you who is here to pick a fight (and I am basing this on the thread title) with those who do not believe. Now if this was a thread called "Why I believe in Jesus" I would understand the issue because it is your BBQ that atheists are crashing and not the other way around.///
Eye Heart Jesus

Saint Catharines, Canada

#398980 Sep 17, 2012
KNOWLEDGE:

I agree totally with your post about 'Luke-warm Christians'
Sadly, many do misrepresent themselves as Christians because they have an idea about Christianity that they are flirting with, but haven't truly and fully embraced it.

It's all or nothing:) Amen:)
Eye Heart Jesus

Saint Catharines, Canada

#398981 Sep 17, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>This IS the test, which I see you are afraid to prove by dancing around the obvious.
What's that hun?
U can't disprove God??!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#398983 Sep 17, 2012
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
i got the term 'double secret' from the movie animal house. it's both funny and appropriate when describing the nonesense you contribute.
BTW - you're a liar!
No nonsense at all. I'm just presenting what Jesus taught, and you are the one refusing to accept them.

I know, you already have a plateful of Jesus, and these jsut don't fit.

Maybe a second helping will fill you up.

As for your claim of me being a "liar" - just don't say it - prove that I am?

You'll have to do better than just making a post on the internet.

......but that is how you so-called "Christians" do this, huh?- anonymously on the web.

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