Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

[gramps]

i dont know any arabs but one would think if we went out of our way to slay innocent woman and childrn then why do you think they dont like US anymore ?

Abraxas wrote:

<quoted text>WLTX did and also interviewed the police there, I believe in freedom of religion .
But islam forces itself on people with thier loudspeakers. Yes The Sherrif there is VERY interested in this place.
This is the same crap they did in holland spain now want a mosque next to the vatican.
It is known that Islam uses mosques to shield terrorists.
You admited there were armed gaurds there.
All peacefull religions have ak 47 wielding gaurds at the door eh?
These places are nothing but a front for spys and
enemys of every country in the free world.

[gramps]

i never said joos did it . it was you that said that... zionists and wanna be joos did 9-11 cappy !!!

Porkpie Hat wrote:

<quoted text>In order to even begin proving your "joooo's didit" theory you need to provide proof of the basis of your claim.
That basis is that all Jewish US government officials are dual citizens and loyal to Israel and these people control the US government.
Without offering proof of that your entire story becomes background noise skinhead.
So either you , into, marv or krizzee needs to offer proof that zionists dual citizens control the US government.
Not one of you has done this to date.

[Abraxas]

Bob wrote:

2861 days since 9/11
so what have we learned?
we know that jet fuel A can not burn anywhere near the temperature needed to impact structural steel
we know for certainty that hydro-carbon fires- fires from common office goods can never burn at a high enough temperature to hard structural steel
as witness to this and as definitive proof, not one singkle high rise commercial or residential building has eve collapsed due to fire - post 9/11 or pre 9/11
we knopw for a fact that not one single jew or zionist that worked in the wtc normally, was at work that morning on 9/11
we know from direct reports of every single member of the NYFD that not one of them believes that the jet crash and ensuing fire brought down 3 large buildings
2861 days since 9/11 and the truthers have run out of excuses

http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/09110...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/ny...

Prove your assertions ,you cannot.
Spew BS you can do.
You Mock those brave men who like everyoner else were shocked by this awfull terrorist attack.

[Gramps]

Zionist Nazism.
Zionism is inherently racist since it believes only jews should be allowed to live on god's land.

It promotes what is called, in modern parlance, ethnic cleansing, "The late Professor Israel Shahak, a Jew and Chairperson of the Israeli League for Civil and Human Rights has been equally explicit about Israel's and Zionism's racism. He said: "It is my considered opinion that the State of Israel is a racist state in the full meaning of the term. In this state people are discriminated against, in the most permanent and legal way and in the most important areas of life, only because of their origin. This racist discrimination began in Zionism and is carried out today mainly in co-operation with the institutions of the Zionist Movement."

" In more traditional political terms, it is a form of crypto-nazism. Ariel sharon is not merely a mass murderer, he's a crypto-nazi - like many other members of his cabinet.

[Bob]

very few if any of those places are actual or real, quit trying to, it's great to see you meltdfown and really try to make people believe that I have ever once posted under any other name but my own

but to play with your mind a little buit, why in the world would I ever post under any name but my own, Bob?

c'mon, give me your psychobabble

just because you use multiple aliases, does not mean anyone else would ever have any reason to do so

you see, we are normal, we have no psuchotic trauma in our lives, we are real people, we are not a fake, we are not frauds, we are not phonies

it's why we label you as a shill, a mindless drone, the lowest thinking life form possible on earth

this is just another sign of your immaturity and lack of reasoning skills

tomk52 wrote:

<quoted text>
Heh, heh, heh...
Pretty funny.
He hails from:
East Lansing, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Orleans, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Gowen, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Holland, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Orleans, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Edmore, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Big Rapids, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Weidman, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Greenville, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Six Lakes, MI http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Plus a couple more...
Tom

[Bob]

Abraxas wrote:

<quoted text>
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/09110...
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/ny...
Prove your assertions ,you cannot.
Spew BS you can do.
You Mock those brave men who like everyoner else were shocked by this awfull terrorist attack.

hey, tommy boi, you haven't used this alias before, not that I have seen, anyways

[Gramps]

The truth the Elitist & Zionist corporate media denies or decides to cover up. There will be no political correctness here, I am not a politician, therefore I see no reason I need to be "politically correct". Just opinions and facts that reveal the truth, and expose the hypocrisies of the Elitist & Zionist western world. Opposition to Zionist supremacy Is not Anti-Semetic, It Is Anti-Satanic ! Opposition to thought control Is not Politically Incorrect or "Hateful", It Is Pro-Free speech !

[Bob]

Porkpie Hat wrote:

<quoted text>We've learned that you don't have a f&*king clue.

ahhh tommi shill, the only time tha "f&*king"
has been used in here is when you utilize that
exact ""f&*king" " in trying to talk down and insult into or marvin

dead give away my little shill dead give away

do you know what gave you away for having so many aliases in here?

you making the alias accusation against me and so many other people

always look at the main accuser and who points the finger, especially when you finger was covered all over with bullshit

[Gramps]

The truth is that Israel lied to the world. Israel lied to the
families of these young women. Israel lied to the women themselves
who are now trapped in Ramle's detention facility. And what are we to
do? One of my cellmates cried today. She has been here for 6 months.
As an American, crying with them is not enough. The policy of the
United States must be better, and while we watch President Obama give
12.8 trillion dollars to the financial elite of the United States it
ought now be clear that hope, change, and `yes we can' were
powerfully presented images of dignity and self-fulfilment,
individually and nationally, that besieged people everywhere truly
believed in.

It was a slick marketing campaign as slickly put to the world and to
the voters of America as was Israel's marketing to the world. It
tricked all of us but, more tragically, these young women.

http://www.nogw.com/articles/-9_mckinney_il_j...

[Gramps]

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.
"It is the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people..."

-- Osama bin Laden in an interview on October 16, 2001

[Bob]

Jimmy Carter has spent many days, thousands of days along the west bank and lived in while traveling through Israel, palestine and nearby lands

Carter has toned it down, labelling it as genocide, mass murder as well as calling it apartheid also, but his message is the same as yours

It's funny, every single ex-president as well as every single ex-ambassador to israel has always villified and called for the de-construction of isreal due to the zionistic policies of wholesale mass murder

reagan, bush sr. gerald ford, bill clinton, LBJ, Nixon, all have later said after they left office that israel was a cancer called zionism to the middle east, Bush 43 was coerced and controlled by the numerous zionists in his cabinet and other key positions

it's most likely that Bush will end up with a terrible form of guilt for his destruction and killing by proxy pf so many innocent lebanese citiens, 80,000 innocent lebanese died, when Israel attacked without merit or reason, by orders from bush

yet another war crime that bush and Cheney should stand trial for

Gramps wrote:

Zionist Nazism.
Zionism is inherently racist since it believes only jews should be allowed to live on god's land.
It promotes what is called, in modern parlance, ethnic cleansing, "The late Professor Israel Shahak, a Jew and Chairperson of the Israeli League for Civil and Human Rights has been equally explicit about Israel's and Zionism's racism. He said: "It is my considered opinion that the State of Israel is a racist state in the full meaning of the term. In this state people are discriminated against, in the most permanent and legal way and in the most important areas of life, only because of their origin. This racist discrimination began in Zionism and is carried out today mainly in co-operation with the institutions of the Zionist Movement."
" In more traditional political terms, it is a form of crypto-nazism. Ariel sharon is not merely a mass murderer, he's a crypto-nazi - like many other members of his cabinet.

[Intoreality]

Abraxas wrote:

<quoted text>WLTX did and also interviewed the police there, I believe in freedom of religion .
But islam forces itself on people with thier loudspeakers. Yes The Sherrif there is VERY interested in this place.
This is the same crap they did in holland spain now want a mosque next to the vatican.
It is known that Islam uses mosques to shield terrorists.
You admited there were armed gaurds there.
All peacefull religions have ak 47 wielding gaurds at the door eh?
These places are nothing but a front for spys and
enemys of every country in the free world.

Have you ever been forced by any arab who practices Islam to worship thier religion?

Has Islam or any Muslim ever harmed you or your family at any time?

Have you or any of your family members been threatened by them because you aren't worshipping by way of Islam?

I think you are racist towards Arab people Abraxas,why; I have no clue,but I can tell you that what you have said here is very racist and very shallow.

I am not Muslim, nor do I practice Islam, but I have never in my life been or felt threatened by Arab people or Islam.

Matter of fact,the Arab people that I do know, have never once,tried to convert me,or even once ask me,what I do believe. The Arab people I know,are very private people,very respectable people,and are true to God,whom they coose to call 'Allah", which in Arabic is the name of "God"..

Just the same as the jewish faith calls God,"Yahweh", so do you say the jews are Mocking God, by calling God,"Yahweh"?

Double standard doncha think Abraxas?

I'm not going to argue with you over religion as this is exactly why I don't claim any.

I beleive in the creator,whom I choose to call God, there is only one,but I respect the rights of others to call God whatever they choose.

Religion seperates people,therefore it is useless to discuss this isue with you any futher..

This is a prime example of what is wrong with this world.

Peace..

[Gramps]

Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III, head of all intelligence says: Pentagon NOT hit by a plane http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Gramps]

The ones who dismiss this are the same as the crooks who dismiss the legality of the income tax, Patriot Act, military commissions Act. http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Porkpie Hat]

gramps wrote:

i never said joos did it . it was you that said that... zionists and wanna be joos did 9-11 cappy !!!<quoted text>

You can't even answer a simple question can you skinhead?

The basis for your entire theory is that the zionists control the US government.

You claim the every Jew in the US government is a dual citizen who's loyalty lies with Israel.

Where is your proof that these people are dual citizens as you, into, marv and krizzee claim?

Without proof of this assertion your theory cannot be true...do you understand this very simple concept?

Also, you state that Israel has the right to exist so in basic terms you are a zionist.

[Bob]

anyone care to guress why not one fire fighter at the scene on 9/11 was afraid that the building would collapse on them?

it's because all members of the NYFD know for a fact that it was impossible for a building to totally collapse.

remember, the supervisiors of the NYFD would not have permitted a single fire fighter to enter any areas of the wtc's if there was even the slightest or most remote possibility of the buildings totally collapsing

any fire fighters code is to save yourself, first and foremost, too bad the zionists and the assasins working under the covers of our government never gave a rats ass about taking innocent human lives

[antonyto]

Intoreality wrote:

<quoted text>
Have you ever been forced by any arab who practices Islam to worship thier religion?
Has Islam or any Muslim ever harmed you or your family at any time?
Have you or any of your family members been threatened by them because you aren't worshipping by way of Islam?
I think you are racist towards Arab people Abraxas,why; I have no clue,but I can tell you that what you have said here is very racist and very shallow.
I am not Muslim, nor do I practice Islam, but I have never in my life been or felt threatened by Arab people or Islam.
Matter of fact,the Arab people that I do know, have never once,tried to convert me,or even once ask me,what I do believe. The Arab people I know,are very private people,very respectable people,and are true to God,whom they coose to call 'Allah", which in Arabic is the name of "God"..
Just the same as the jewish faith calls God,"Yahweh", so do you say the jews are Mocking God, by calling God,"Yahweh"?
Double standard doncha think Abraxas?
I'm not going to argue with you over religion as this is exactly why I don't claim any.
I beleive in the creator,whom I choose to call God, there is only one,but I respect the rights of others to call God whatever they choose.
Religion seperates people,therefore it is useless to discuss this isue with you any futher..
This is a prime example of what is wrong with this world.
Peace..

I have never met a "radical" Muslim. I went to school with so many Muslims and never once did they care about other peoples choices. They believe in theirs.
If everybody here doesn't know that the phrase "they hate our freedom" is a crock of shit then you are very stupid.

[Pegasus]

Patriot from Ohio wrote:

Thanks for all the info intoreality.
But I looked into it, you guys are really ridiculous on this one. Another one of the more ridiculous theories you think up. WHy do you do this?
This chemtrails thing is nothing other than a load of crap.Though if you'd like to provide more evidence than what you posted, Ill take a look at it.

Chem-trails are the bait and if "real" unsuspecting, gullible, people such as the Truthers were taken hook, line, and sinker they hope someone else will share in their misery.
Then again, every so often it's either Krizzee with the reptilian/shape shifters or Notintoreality with the chem-trails to "fluff-up" the forum and use these two fantasies to draw someone in so they can run their conspiracy crap on them.
Let's take Notintoreality for example, she/it's at the check-out counter in her favorite grocery store and she/it places her last bag of 8 family size Dorito's on the belt and suddenly her eyes stray onto the inevitable tabloid begging for her to purchase it.....with the headline reading as such.....Michael Jackson's Death Brings Controversy Regarding Jackson's Secret Life as a CIA Operative.....not only does her inquiring mind purchase this scandal sheet, she purchases the whole rack so she can hand them out at the trailer park for free.

[Gramps]

The Boeing AGM-86 ALCM (AGM-86A, AGM-86B and AGM-86C) is an American subsonic air-launched cruise missile (ALCM) built by Boeing Company and operated by the United States Air Force. The missiles were developed to increase the effectiveness and survivability of Boeing B-52H Stratofortress bombers. In combination, they dilute an enemy's forces and complicate defense of its territory.[1]

Examples of the Boeing AGM-86A and AGM-86B are on display at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center of the National Air and Space Museum near Washington D.C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ALCMCruiseM...

[Gramps]

"We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem."

Reportedly the first words out of the mouth of Sivan Kurzberg after being stopped by police on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium on Sept 11, 2001 at 4 pm. He was one of the "dancing Israelis". The others were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.[These are the real people that took down the world trade center -ed.]
This statement would correspond to 9/11 being a Mossad false flag operation. The Mossad are experts and very experienced at causing atrocities and laying the blame for them on other countries.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860