Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#281396 Sep 20, 2014
Continued;
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Currently, there is limited information about the ignition and development of fires at WTC 7, as well as about the specific fuels that may have been involved during the course of the fire. It is likely that fires started as a result of debris from the collapse of WTC 1.
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With the limited information currently available, fire development in this building needs additional study.
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Available information indicates that fires spread horizontally and vertically throughout the building during the course of the day. The mode of spread was most likely either along the south façade that was damaged, or internally through shafts or the gap between the floor slab and the exterior wall. It is currently unclear what fuel may have been present to permit the fires to burn on these lower floors for approximately 7 hours.
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The mechanisms behind these apparent changes in behavior are currently unknown and therefore various scenarios need to be investigated further.
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However, there is no physical, photographic, or other evidence to substantiate or refute the discharge of fuel oil from the piping system.
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The following is, therefore, a hypothesis based on potential rather than demonstrated fact.
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Uh Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#281397 Sep 20, 2014
Continued :
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A further hypothesis that would help explain the long time lapse between the collapse of WTC 1 and the collapse of WTC 7 would be that the masonry wall and door resisted the fire for a number of hours, but eventually failed.
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Further investigation is required to determine whether the preceding scenarios did or could have actually occurred.
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Probable Collapse Sequence
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The collapse of WTC 7 appears to have initiated on the east side of the building on the interior, as indicated by the disappearance of the east penthouse into the building.
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The collapse then began at the lower floor levels, and the building completely
collapsed to the ground. From this sequence, it appears that the collapse initiated at the lower levels on the inside and progressed up, as seen by the extension of the fault from the lower levels to the top.
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Feel free to read this report all the way through.
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http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/201307...
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It is hilariously full of the following phrases:
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it appears
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what may have happened. However, confirmation will require additional study and analysis
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It appears that the collapse of WTC 2 did not significantly affect the roof, or the east, west, and north elevations of WTC 7
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It is unknown if there was any damage to the south elevation after WTC 2 collapsed
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At 10:29 a.m., WTC 1 (the north tower) collapsed, sending its debris into the streets below. The extent and severity of the resulting damage to WTC 7 are currently unknown. However, from photographic evidence and eyewitness accounts discussed below, it was assumed that the south side of the building was damaged to some degree and that fires in WTC 7 started at approximately this time.
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It does not appear that the collapse of WTC 1 affected the roof, or the east, west, and north elevations of WTC 7 in any significant way.
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Currently, there is limited information about the ignition and development of fires at WTC 7, as well as about the specific fuels that may have been involved during the course of the fire. It is likely that fires started as a result of debris from the collapse of WTC 1
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With the limited information currently available, fire development in this building needs additional study.
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The mechanisms behind these apparent changes in behavior are currently unknown and therefore various scenarios need to be investigated further
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However, there is no physical, photographic, or other evidence to substantiate or refute the discharge of fuel oil from the piping system.
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The following is, therefore, a hypothesis based on potential rather than demonstrated fact.
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In other words FEMA don't know what the FUHK happened anymore than you and your FDNY hooligans do ratdick !
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Uh Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#281398 Sep 20, 2014
A few choice cherry-picked phrases often repeated:

"additional study and analysis"
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"various scenarios need to be investigated further"
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"fire development in this building needs additional study"
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"Further investigation is required to determine whether the preceding scenarios did or could have actually occurred"
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Seeing as how NO additional study , nor any further investigation has ever been done, as recommended by this and the other various govie reports, which are completely unscientific and meaningless, I also concur with sewerwater and ratdick in their wholesale condemnation and total debwunking of these reports as they say happened a long time ago.
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http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/201307...
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Uh HUh Eh !

onemale

Charleston, IL

#281399 Sep 20, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Debunked long ago.
NEXT
How many times have we heard that line of BS???
You sound like a stuck BS record

Since: Aug 11

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#281401 Sep 20, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Is this what you disagree with ratdick ?
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http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/201307...
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Funny, sewerwater says it was debwunked long ago also.
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Interesting how you can't get any FDNY to say anything about it now that they've been shut up for fear of losing the only job they've ever had, and could ever hope to have .
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Next time you get together to play Mahjong with your FDNY gang buddies , tell em I said so. LOL
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Uh Huh Eh !
Do you have any point?

The study shows the building collapsed due to fires and loads.

BaaaaaWaaaaaa

Keep sniveling loser.

Since: Aug 11

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#281402 Sep 20, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
How many times have we heard that line of BS???
You sound like a stuck BS record
Then stop posting your BS nonsense which was all debunked years ago.

Since: Aug 11

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#281403 Sep 20, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Continued;
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Currently, there is limited information about the ignition and development of fires at WTC 7, as well as about the specific fuels that may have been involved during the course of the fire. It is likely that fires started as a result of debris from the collapse of WTC 1.
.
With the limited information currently available, fire development in this building needs additional study.
.
Available information indicates that fires spread horizontally and vertically throughout the building during the course of the day. The mode of spread was most likely either along the south façade that was damaged, or internally through shafts or the gap between the floor slab and the exterior wall. It is currently unclear what fuel may have been present to permit the fires to burn on these lower floors for approximately 7 hours.
.
The mechanisms behind these apparent changes in behavior are currently unknown and therefore various scenarios need to be investigated further.
.
However, there is no physical, photographic, or other evidence to substantiate or refute the discharge of fuel oil from the piping system.
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The following is, therefore, a hypothesis based on potential rather than demonstrated fact.
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Uh Huh Eh !
Pointless drivel. It is obvious there were no major fires at street level until the towers collapsed bringing the fire down and spreading it over a vast area. There was one automobile punctured by a piece of landing gear with was in flames just after the plane crashed into one of the towers.

GLAD I COULD HELP

ANY MORE STUPID STUFF?

Since: Aug 11

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#281404 Sep 20, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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ratdick, they're not disagreeing with me !
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It does not appear that the collapse of WTC 1 affected the roof, or the east, west, and north elevations of WTC 7 in any significant way.
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Uh Huh Eh !
Here is how the firemen described the damage.

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we&#65533;ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

We ended up getting back to the command post at Broadway and Vesey. By that time, there were probably 50 officers standing in a row. And I was like, I&#65533;m not going to stand on another line like that. So we came down with Fox. I knew Fox was somewhere. So we found out that Fox was over at Cortlandt and Church. They were putting a tower ladder into operation, so we made our way over to there. We ended up helping.

They had no pressure at all off of any of the hydrants from Broadway. He was asking if there was any way that we could do anything at Broadway or West. From Broadway to West westward toward Church Street there was no pressure at all. We spotted one of the squads up on Cortlandt over by Broadway and he was hooked up to a hydrant, and it was running. There was nobody there. I don&#65533;t know which squad it was, but you know they were in there. We were just sitting there, so we stretched the line off of him. We relayed it to 274, who relayed it to another engine down the street and eventually we got more pressure. I think it was 22 Truck on Church and Cortlandt and they were operating to number 5.

We did that for a little while. It took a while to get the hose there because there was a White Plains company helping us and they had some different fittings. So we got water to 22, but then that&#65533;s when they said all right, number 7 is coming down, shut everything down. I don&#65533;t know what time that was. It was all just a blur.

http://www.webcitation.org/5IuRwM61d

Looks like you are totally misinformed.

GLAD I COULD HELP
onemale

Charleston, IL

#281405 Sep 20, 2014
It sure looks like Dr_Zorderz has been really handing the debwunker's asses to them.
So much evidence against the official story... it would laughable if it wasn't so sick.
I know for damn sure if one of my loved ones was killed on 9/11, I would want to know the truth.
The debwunkers have demonstrated they don't give a damn about the victims or the feelings of their loved ones.
onemale

Charleston, IL

#281406 Sep 20, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Then stop posting your BS nonsense which was all debunked years ago.
How many times have we heard that line of BS???
You sound like a stuck BS record

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#281408 Sep 20, 2014
onemale wrote:
It sure looks like Dr_Zorderz has been really handing the debwunker's asses to them.
So much evidence against the official story... it would laughable if it wasn't so sick.
I know for damn sure if one of my loved ones was killed on 9/11, I would want to know the truth.
The debwunkers have demonstrated they don't give a damn about the victims or the feelings of their loved ones.
Like what?

He has proved nothing but his own stupidity. If you read the firemen's testimony, it agree with the FEMA report that only the South side of WTC7 showed significant damage. The testimony went on to say they pulled all the firemen from the building because they knew it was going to collapse soon.

ANY MORE IDIOCY?

BRING IT ON
onemale

Charleston, IL

#281409 Sep 20, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any point?
The study shows the building collapsed due to fires and loads.
BaaaaaWaaaaaa
Keep sniveling loser.
Loads???
What loads???
Such a ridiculous comment.
The core columns were designed to hold up 3 times it's weight.
The outer columns were designed to hold up 5 times it's weight.
The columns were holding up all that weight for decades.
If all the floors pancaked, the core columns would have remained standing.
According to your buddy the piggy they only had 1/4' filet welds.
The floor beams should have ripped away from the core columns.
Perhaps the piggy has a formula for that one.
onemale

Charleston, IL

#281410 Sep 20, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Like what?
He has proved nothing but his own stupidity. If you read the firemen's testimony, it agree with the FEMA report that only the South side of WTC7 showed significant damage. The testimony went on to say they pulled all the firemen from the building because they knew it was going to collapse soon.
ANY MORE IDIOCY?
BRING IT ON
Dr Zordez provides links.
You provide BS with no evidence.
Evidence is evidence... BS with no evidence is BS.


onemale

Charleston, IL

#281411 Sep 20, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Like what?
He has proved nothing but his own stupidity. If you read the firemen's testimony, it agree with the FEMA report that only the South side of WTC7 showed significant damage. The testimony went on to say they pulled all the firemen from the building because they knew it was going to collapse soon.
ANY MORE IDIOCY?
BRING IT ON
I'll bring it later... I've heard enough of idiocy for one night.
I'll finish handing your ass to ya later.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#281412 Sep 20, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
A few choice cherry-picked phrases often repeated:
"additional study and analysis"
.
"various scenarios need to be investigated further"
.
"fire development in this building needs additional study"
.
"Further investigation is required to determine whether the preceding scenarios did or could have actually occurred"
.
Seeing as how NO additional study , nor any further investigation has ever been done, as recommended by this and the other various govie reports, which are completely unscientific and meaningless, I also concur with sewerwater and ratdick in their wholesale condemnation and total debwunking of these reports as they say happened a long time ago.
.
http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/201307...
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Uh HUh Eh !
when you do not want to conduct "proper enquiry" you use language as used in this report!!

Nothing is clear and so much is unknown....but what is known as "irrefutable FACT" is that all this damage was caused by "Those Planes striking WTC-1 and WTC-2".

Why?

Because CNN, FOX News and White House "all agreed" within 5 minutes of second strike, that it was handi work of Al Qaeda....QED.

Can you call American Society the one who base their analysis on science and scientific proofs? I doubt it very much.

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#281413 Sep 21, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
when you do not want to conduct "proper enquiry" you use language as used in this report!!
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Campaign Mounts to Declassify 9/11 Report’s References to Alleged Saudi Involvement
Nearly 13 years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the extent of Saudi involvement in the deaths of almost 3,000 people remains unclear — but according to members of Congress and the families of victims, information about this has been suppressed ever since the publication of a 2002 congressional investigation into the plot.

Prior to the release of the final report of the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001, the Bush administration classified a 28-page section in the name of national security.

https://news.vice.com/article/campaign-mounts...

Now your language will change with a "proper inquiry" that isn't to your liking
onemale

Charleston, IL

#281414 Sep 21, 2014
FDNY 9/11 Survivor Witness and Whistleblower: Speaks on WTC 7

In this video Luke Rudkowski interviews FDNY member Rudy Dent:
1.) Rudy Dent who on the day of 9/11 was witness to the collapse of infamous WTC 7.
2.) Dent - Vietnam War veteran,
3.) Four year member of the NYPD
4.) Thirty-two year FDNY firefighter.)
5.) As a firefighter on 9/11, he was at Ground Zero and was there when Building 7 came down. In this episode of 9/11 Free Fall, he relives his experience that day, recounting how he believes the buildings in New York were brought down in controlled demolitions.

onemale

Charleston, IL

#281415 Sep 21, 2014
So much evidence against the official story... it would laughable if it wasn't so sick.
I know for damn sure if one of my loved ones was killed on 9/11, I would want to know the truth.
The debwunkers (the anti truth movement) have demonstrated they don't give a damn about the victims or the feelings of their loved ones.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#281416 Sep 21, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Loads???
What loads???
Such a ridiculous comment.
The core columns were designed to hold up 3 times it's weight.
The outer columns were designed to hold up 5 times it's weight.
The columns were holding up all that weight for decades.
If all the floors pancaked, the core columns would have remained standing.
According to your buddy the piggy they only had 1/4' filet welds.
The floor beams should have ripped away from the core columns.
Perhaps the piggy has a formula for that one.
WTF?

Do try to pay more attention. Besides, your opinions have already proven to be false.

NEXT

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#281417 Sep 21, 2014
There was a proper investigation sock puppet ......it was conducted by the FBI and called PENTTBOM ...... it was the largest criminal investigation in history and involved 4,000special agents and 3,000 professional employees. At the peak of the case, more than half the agents worked to identify the hijackers and their sponsors and, with other agencies, to head off any possible future attacks. They followed more than half-a-million investigative leads, including several hundred thousand tips from the public. The attack and crash sites also represented the largest crime scenes in FBI history.
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
when you do not want to conduct "proper enquiry" you use language as used in this report!!
Nothing is clear and so much is unknown....but what is known as "irrefutable FACT" is that all this damage was caused by "Those Planes striking WTC-1 and WTC-2".
Why?
Because CNN, FOX News and White House "all agreed" within 5 minutes of second strike, that it was handi work of Al Qaeda....QED.
Can you call American Society the one who base their analysis on science and scientific proofs? I doubt it very much.

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