Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#280818 Sep 15, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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Any one who has seen the fall of WTC, would notice "Huge clouds of Fine Dust" come out "BEFORE" the start of collapse. This is clear sign that some sort of Explosives are used to demolish the building.
And WTC was a Steel Framed building for that reason!!
The "coarse" dust cloud is normal "during or After the fall" not "Before" the fall.
Experts who do these demolition jobs regularly can see the "tell tale" signs of explosion. It is only "Hard boiled Patriots and Nationalists" who shut their eyes and says "Bush Knows the Best" because he was "at the scene of Tragedy"!!
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

A Second Look at the Saudis
Of the nineteen hijackers who attacked this nation on September 11, 2001, fifteen were Saudi Arabian. Moreover, each and every one of the nineteen hijackers was personally chosen and provided with training and financing by yet another Saudi native – Osama bin Laden. Yet from that day to this, in spite of these disturbing and incontrovertible facts, members of the Bush administration have glibly and incessantly insisted that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is one of our closest friends and allies in the War on Terror. Fifteen Saudis murdered nearly 3,000 Americans on live TV, all at the behest of one of the Kingdom’s prodigal sons. How can these basic facts about 9/11 possibly be mere trivia?

In fact, they are just the tip of the iceberg. In the years since September 11, a growing body of evidence has emerged illuminating the central role Saudi nationals have played in the rise of Al Qaeda and its terrorist attacks against the United States. In our national obsession with the fiasco in Iraq, we have somehow glossed over these important and alarming clues about the nature of the threat we confronted on September 11. But they are just as striking as the events of that day itself. Consider the following:

http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com/
You might not of seen my reply to yours,so ill post it again
AussieBobby wrote:
<quoted text>
Im just investigating the Saudi involvement and cover up,but you want to keep that hidden,why?.
onemale

Charleston, IL

#280819 Sep 15, 2014
The 9/11 Commission Report is a WHITEWASH. There are thousands of unanswered questions surrounding the darkest day in American history. 9 questions for the Commission that DEMAND answers. It's about time we know what really happened:



“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#280820 Sep 15, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
First you have to PROVE and demonstrate that WTC Towers fell ONLY because of those Jet strikes.
Without proving that this is just a hot air. It is same as Iraq and WMD. After conquering of Iraq, did USA found out WMD?
If they occupy Saudi Arabia, what would they get about 9/11?
The "King of Al Qaeda" they killed and did not capture to ask about his plans and involvement.
Your post is type of Red Herring which is continuing for past 13 years.
The FACT is the those towers could NEVER fall to ground because of those jet strikes.
Talk sense and just do not play your old broken record.
MUQ,you have a very good command of English.Hundreds of posts Iv seen are of high standard ,yet the above is very poor.
Did one of your Saudi handlers write the above or was it the fear of the weight of the sword upon your neck for the broken English?
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Any one who has seen the fall of WTC, would notice "Huge clouds of Fine Dust" come out "BEFORE" the start of collapse. This is clear sign that some sort of Explosives are used to demolish the building.
And WTC was a Steel Framed building for that reason!!
The "coarse" dust cloud is normal "during or After the fall" not "Before" the fall.
Experts who do these demolition jobs regularly can see the "tell tale" signs of explosion. It is only "Hard boiled Patriots and Nationalists" who shut their eyes and says "Bush Knows the Best" because he was "at the scene of Tragedy"!!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#280824 Sep 16, 2014
http://www.salon.com/2006/05/19/askthepilot18...

Ask the pilot

In search of the ever-elusive "truth," the pilot takes on the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

"Confusion aside, I can tackle a few of the more commonly heard myths that pertain to the airplanes and their pilots, point by point.
The terrorist pilots lacked the skill and training to fly jetliners into their targets.

This is an extremely popular topic with respect to American 77. Skyjacker Hani Hanjour, a notoriously untalented flier who never piloted anything larger than a four-seater, seemed to pull off a remarkable series of aerobatic maneuvers before slamming into the Pentagon. The pilots of American 11 and United 175 also had spotty records. They should have had great difficulty navigating to New York City, and even greater difficulty hitting the twin towers squarely. To bolster their belief that the 19 skyjackers were Oswaldian pawns, the conspiracy-mongers invoke impressive-sounding jargon and fluffery about high-tech cockpits, occasionally trundling out testimony from pilots.

Reality: As I’ve explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour’s flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation’s capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757&#8242;s autopilot. Striking a stationary object — even a large one like the Pentagon — at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon’s lawn.

It’s true there’s only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league. However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship. The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes’ navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won’t be good, but you’ll be good enough.

“They’d done their homework and they had what they needed,” says a United Airlines pilot (name withheld on request), who has flown every model of Boeing from the 737 up.“Rudimentary knowledge and fearlessness.”

“As everyone saw, their flying was sloppy and aggressive,” says Michael (last name withheld), a pilot with several thousand hours in 757s and 767s.“Their skills and experience, or lack thereof, just weren’t relevant.”

“The hijackers required only the shallow understanding of the aircraft,” agrees Ken Hertz, an airline pilot rated on the 757/767.“In much the same way that a person needn’t be an experienced physician in order to perform CPR or set a broken bone.”

That sentiment is echoed by Joe d’Eon, airline pilot and host of the “Fly With Me” podcast series.“It’s the difference between a doctor and a butcher,” says d’Eon. "

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#280825 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Too funny how you idiots debunk NIST
It's funny how you're SO dumb that you make zero sense yet "think" you've made some kind of relevant and salient point!

BTW,

http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapte...

Have you contacted Wierzbicki yet to show him your video and tell him how you've debunked Newtonian mechanics?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#280826 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Another debwunker bites the dust when they can't answer questions.
Since your mind is too weak to handle more than one quesion at time I will just ask one.
What school did they attend to learn how to override and re-program the Boeing computer?
Gawd you're fking dumb!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#280827 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
The 9/11 Commission Report is a WHITEWASH. There are thousands of unanswered questions surrounding the darkest day in American history. 9 questions for the Commission that DEMAND answers. It's about time we know what really happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LQOYb0JCyeAXX
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>It's obvious you're not very bright.
Really, really obvious.

Did you know that 180mph is slower than 500mph?

Of course you don't, you're far too stupid to understand that simple fact.

E=1/2m(v*v) ring a bell?

Of course it doesn't, you're a scientifically illiterate fool.

Now would E increase with velocity?

No manyfails, I'm not asking you since you're just too stupid to understand.

[email protected] empty

E=1/2*55,580kg(80m/s*80m/s)=17 7,856kJ

[email protected] empty

E=1/2*57,840kg(223m/s*223m/s)= 1,438,162kJ

Oh look! Of course you never bothered to verify anything you "read" (see
mindlessly regurgitated) and you're dead wrong about the energy of impact.
BTW, a the lightest 767 is heavier than the heaviest 707 you moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_707#Speci...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767#Speci...

(My calculations are based on a 757 is your best case scenario to win the
argument and you still lose by a landslide!)

The good news is, with friends like you twoof needs no enemies.

The bad news is, you are every bit as dumb as I thought.

But hey, good luck with that!
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Run Manyfails! Run!!!!!!
onemale

Charleston, IL

#280828 Sep 16, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Run Manyfails! Run!!!!!!
Another debwunker bites the dust, who can't even answer one question out of the nine.
You can't even make a reply that has any relation to the post you are replying too.
And who thinks some kind of phoney formula really means anything So who is really the dumb one?

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#280829 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Debwunkers doesn't like it when we ask questions they can't answer.
Your response is about as phoney and fake as a Sorry Charlie post.
Are you trying to be some kind of a Sorry Charile wanna be???
Ask a stupid question...get a stupid reply.

onemale

Charleston, IL

#280831 Sep 16, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Ask a stupid question...get a stupid reply.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qp6mXmHNPlgXX
The piggy can't even give a stupid answer.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#280833 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>Another debwunker bites the dust, who can't even answer one question out of the nine.
You can't even make a reply that has any relation to the post you are replying too.
And who thinks some kind of phoney formula really means anything So who is really the dumb one?
That is the best you can do?

Good grief you're dumb!

With imbeciles like you on its side, twoof needs no enemies!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#280834 Sep 16, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2006/05/1 9/askthepilot186/

Ask the pilot

In search of the ever-elusive "truth," the pilot takes on the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.

"Confusion aside, I can tackle a few of the more commonly heard myths that pertain to the airplanes and their pilots, point by point.
The terrorist pilots lacked the skill and training to fly jetliners into their targets.

This is an extremely popular topic with respect to American 77. Skyjacker Hani Hanjour, a notoriously untalented flier who never piloted anything larger than a four-seater, seemed to pull off a remarkable series of aerobatic maneuvers before slamming into the Pentagon. The pilots of American 11 and United 175 also had spotty records. They should have had great difficulty navigating to New York City, and even greater difficulty hitting the twin towers squarely. To bolster their belief that the 19 skyjackers were Oswaldian pawns, the conspiracy-mongers invoke impressive-sounding jargon and fluffery about high-tech cockpits, occasionally trundling out testimony from pilots.

Reality: As I’ve explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour’s flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation’s capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757&#8242;s autopilot. Striking a stationary object — even a large one like the Pentagon — at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon’s lawn.

It’s true there’s only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league. However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship. The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes’ navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won’t be good, but you’ll be good enough.

“They’d done their homework and they had what they needed,” says a United Airlines pilot (name withheld on request), who has flown every model of Boeing from the 737 up.“Rudimentary knowledge and fearlessness.”

“As everyone saw, their flying was sloppy and aggressive,” says Michael (last name withheld), a pilot with several thousand hours in 757s and 767s.“Their skills and experience, or lack thereof, just weren’t relevant.”

“The hijackers required only the shallow understanding of the aircraft,” agrees Ken Hertz, an airline pilot rated on the 757/767.“In much the same way that a person needn’t be an experienced physician in order to perform CPR or set a broken bone.”

That sentiment is echoed by Joe d’Eon, airline pilot and host of the “Fly With Me” podcast series.“It’s the difference between a doctor and a butcher,” says d’Eon. "
Oh twoof where art thou?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#280836 Sep 16, 2014
Just a reminder to the idjits of twooferDUMB, you have to support your claims that 911 was an inside jobbity jobbity job.

Your personal incredulity isn't now nor was it ever a viable argument.

go
twoof
go
onemale

Charleston, IL

#280837 Sep 16, 2014
Commissioned and Non-commissioned US Military Officers For 9/11 Truth:

"As Commissioned and Non-commissioned Officers in the U.S. military, we took an oath to, support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."

http://www.mo911truth.org/
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280840 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
And who thinks some kind of phoney formula really means anything So who is really the dumb one?
Math is so confusing to those suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome it just looks like a bunch of made up mumbo jumbo.

I blame that wasted, reamed out, soak of a mother. I'd blame the father too but that would be a blanket indictment of every bum in Illinois who had a stiffly and fifty cents to buy a prune a drink.
Pegasus

Orange, NJ

#280841 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
The piggy can't even give a stupid answer.
Again you respond with childish ridicule because mentally you posses the aptitude and cognitive ability of a 5 yo.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280842 Sep 16, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>

Everyone knows not one allegedly hijacked airliner was intercepted by any allegedly defensive aircraft on 9/11 ?
.
This was because everyone involved, mainly NORAD, FAA, Washington DC Air National Guard, New York Air National Guard, Northeast Air Defense Sector and the US Air Force were all just following orders .
iCarly, Show us a example of the fastest intercept time over North America. it was a hour and a half, WITH A WORKING TRANSPONDER! Longer than the planes on 9-11 were in the air.

Prove me wrong.

PS: Make up your mind, where there planes involved or not, LMFAO!
onemale

Charleston, IL

#280843 Sep 16, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Just a reminder to the idjits of twooferDUMB, you have to support your claims that 911 was an inside jobbity jobbity job.
Your personal incredulity isn't now nor was it ever a viable argument.
go
twoof
go
It makes the piggy an angry little piggy when he gets in ass handed to him.

Pegasus

Orange, NJ

#280844 Sep 16, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
Math is so confusing to those suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome it just looks like a bunch of made up mumbo jumbo.
I blame that wasted, reamed out, soak of a mother. I'd blame the father too but that would be a blanket indictment of every bum in Illinois who had a stiffly and fifty cents to buy a prune a drink.
LMAO
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280845 Sep 16, 2014
onemale wrote:
5.) How did they do maneuvers so precise within a matter of inches.
Inches of what, you sure do just make crap up fetal alcohol boy, your drunken mother started out counting inches and quickly worked her way up to a light year of man meat.

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