Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#280775 Sep 15, 2014
NORAD Stand-Down
The Prevention of Interceptions of the Commandeered Planes

It is standard operating procedure (SOP) to scramble jet fighters whenever a jetliner goes off course or radio contact with it is lost. Between September 2000 and June 2001, interceptors were scrambled 67 times. 1 In the year 2000 jets were scrambled 129 times. 2
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There are several elements involved in domestic air defense. The air traffic control system continuously monitors air traffic and notifies NORAD of any deviations of any aircraft from their flight-paths or loss of radio contact. NORAD monitors air and space traffic continuously and is prepared to react immediately to threats and emergencies. It has the authority to order units from the Air National Guard, the Air Force, or other armed services to scramble fighters in pursuit of jetliners in trouble.
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Routine interception procedures were not followed on September 11th, 2001.
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Layered Failures
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The air defense network had, on September 11th, predictable and effective procedures for dealing with just such an attack. Yet it failed to respond in a timely manner until after the attack was over, more than an hour and a half after it had started. The official timeline describes a series of events and mode of response in which the delays are spread out into a number of areas. There are failures upon failures, in what might be described as a strategy of layered failures, or failure in depth. The failures can be divided into four types.
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Failures to report: Based on the official timeline, the FAA response times for reporting the deviating aircraft were many times longer than the prescribed times.
Failures to scramble: NORAD, once notified of the off-course aircraft, failed to scramble jets from the nearest bases.
Failures to intercept: Once airborne, interceptors failed to reach their targets because they flew at small fractions of their top speeds and/or in the wrong directions.
Failures to redeploy: Fighters that were airborne and within interception range of the deviating aircraft were not redeployed to pursue them.
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Had not there been multiple failures of each type, one or more parts of the attack could have been thwarted. NORAD had time to protect the World Trade Center even given the unbelievably late time, 8:40, when it claims to have first been notified. It had time to protect the South Tower and Washington even given its bizarre choice of bases from which to scramble planes. And it still had ample opportunity to protect both New York City and Washington even if it insisted that all interceptors fly subsonic, simply by redeploying airborne fighters.
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http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/n...
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Uh Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280776 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Thank you sorry charlie
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Uh Huh Eh !
You are welcome icarly!
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Quote from Dr Zorderz
sorry charlie you forgot:
the Jews Did It
the WTC towers were NUKED
the WTC towers were victims of DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPON

NOBODY DIED ON 9/11

Uh Huh Eh !
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Can you PROVE anybody died in 9/11 ?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#280778 Sep 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Show me a building constructed exactly like WTC7. The building would need to be trapezoid and cantilevered above the seventh floor supported by outer columns and a triangular horizontal truss system. The seventh floor would need to be loaded with transformers of a substation. Finally, if would be damaged by a multi-ton piece of Trade Tower slicing through from top to bottom and knocking out a support column holding up the transformer floor.
Good luck with that. Your comparisons are irrelevant.
" a multi-ton piece of Trade Tower slicing through from top to bottom and knocking out a support column holding up the transformer floor."
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That's a fuhking bald faced lie. sewerwater you can not prove that claim !
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And don't say hundreds of eyewitnesses saw it or that you already posted it . Say whatever you want but you can not prove this claim.
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Uh Huh Eh !
who

Reading, UK

#280779 Sep 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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The Windsor tower had a concrete core.
The firemen said it collapsed due to damage. Unless you can prove otherwise, it counts.
What collapsed?
plenty of steel structure still in place. I'd say it more a partial collapse rather than a controlled demolition style collapse.....wouldn't you?
http://www.highrisefirefighting.co.uk/images/...
If you knew it had a concrete core, why use it of an example of a steel framed building that completely collapsed due to normal office fires....which it didn't.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#280780 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Thank you sorry charlie
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Uh Huh Eh !
If you read the Official Report, you will find out why there was little or no response and why it took so long. You don't need to play guessing games. The facts are there in black and white.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280782 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
NORAD Stand-Down
The Prevention of Interceptions of the Commandeered Planes
It is standard operating procedure (SOP) to scramble jet fighters whenever a jetliner goes off course or radio contact with it is lost. Between September 2000 and June 2001, interceptors were scrambled 67 times. 1 In the year 2000 jets were scrambled 129 times.
Show us a example of the fastest intercept time over North America. it was a hour and a half, WITH A WORKING TRANSPONDER!

Prove me wrong.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280783 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
NORAD Stand-Down
The Prevention of Interceptions of the Commandeered Planes
It is standard operating procedure (SOP) to scramble jet fighters whenever a jetliner goes off course or radio contact with it is lost.
So ICarly you 50 year old pedo, There were planes this week?

iCarly Goes from NO PLANES to PLANES 4 times in LESS THAN 12 HOURS

NO PLANES
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Watch as the FAKE CARTOON BOEING "melts" into the steel clad exterior of the South Tower.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =AQtSa-TZ6x8XX
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Uh Huh Eh !
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

PLANES
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
2014 WTC DRONE STRIKE PLANE PROOF (MANY WITNESSES)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Uh Huh Eh !
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

NO PLANES
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The Best 9-11 Documentary ++ Media Cover-Up ++ No Planes!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Uh Huh Eh !
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

PLANES
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Flight 93 Eyewitness Sees A Second Plane, Says Flight 93 Was Shot Down
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280784 Sep 15, 2014
who wrote:
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What collapsed?
plenty of steel structure still in place. I'd say it more a partial collapse rather than a controlled demolition style collapse.....wouldn't you?
http://www.highrisefirefighting.co.uk/images/...
If you knew it had a concrete core, why use it of an example of a steel framed building that completely collapsed due to normal office fires....which it didn't.
Nope, The Concrete reinforced portion stood, the steel framed portion failed, Was there any concrete reinforced portions of WTC 1, 2 or 7?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280785 Sep 15, 2014
who wrote:
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The Windsor tower burned on all floors for 24 hours, it was badly damaged, but it didn't collapse.
Yea, The Concrete portion survived, the steel framed portion did not.

Dr. Pal Chana of the British Cement Association demonstrated the relative likelihood of floor collapse in a steel versus concrete framed building, using the vivid example of the Madrid Windsor Tower fire which raged over 26 hours on 14-15 February 2005. This former landmark office block of 30 storeys featured a concrete core throughout, but with concrete columns up to the 21st floor and steel columns between the 22nd and 30th floors.

REMARKABLY, DESPITE THE INTENSITY AND DURATION OF THE FIRE, THE CONCRETE FLOORS AND COLUMNS REMAINED INTACT HOWEVER, THE STEEL SUPPORTED FLOORS ABOVE THE 21ST FLOOR COLLAPSED, LEAVING THE CONCRETE CORE IN-SITU AND EXPOSED.

-http://www.concretefireforum. org.uk/ main.asp?page=0

SO WHAT DOES THE MADRID WINDSOR TOWER FIRE SHOW? THAT STEEL COLUMNS WILL COLLAPSE IN A FIRE, THAT CONCRETE IS MORE FIRE-RESISTANT

-http://www.iklimnet.com/hotel fires/imagesfire/slide0008_ima ge013. jpg
who

Reading, UK

#280786 Sep 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Show me a building constructed exactly like WTC7. The building would need to be trapezoid and cantilevered above the seventh floor supported by outer columns and a triangular horizontal truss system. The seventh floor would need to be loaded with transformers of a substation. Finally, if would be damaged by a multi-ton piece of Trade Tower slicing through from top to bottom and knocking out a support column holding up the transformer floor.
Good luck with that. Your comparisons are irrelevant.
One support column and a few small office fires don't make a controlled demolition style collapse
I hope there are no other buildings exactly like WTC7......Place was a friggin death trap.
I can't be arsed with this, life's too short.
Laters
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280787 Sep 15, 2014
who wrote:
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One support column and a few small office fires don't make a controlled demolition style collapse
I hope there are no other buildings exactly like WTC7......Place was a friggin death trap.
I can't be arsed with this, life's too short.
Laters
There was also that chunk of the North Tower.

And small office fires?

http://www.iceberg911.net/wtc720-wtc-tour-7-i...

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#280788 Sep 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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If you read the Official Report, you will find out why there was little or no response and why it took so long. You don't need to play guessing games. The facts are there in black and white.
Took so long for why there was little or no response ! Because thats how long it took for the allegedly hijacked planes to fly hundreds of miles around the countryside and then get back to their targets.
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I don't care WHY there was no response. That's another basket of worms we may address later .
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My question has still not been answered by any debwunker.
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The facts ARE there in black and white,
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NO allegedly hijacked airliner were intercepted by any allegedly defensive aircraft on 9/11.
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Hey the towers fell down. That's a fact.
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WHY they fell down is up for grabs !
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Nothing has been proven beyond a mountain of doubt and that's another fact .
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NO allegedly hijacked airliner was intercepted by any allegedly defensive aircraft on 9/11.
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Why this fact happened is also up for grabs.
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Nothing has been proven beyond a mountain of doubt and that's another fact .
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So take your lies and shove them up your ass.
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Uh HUh Eh !
who

Reading, UK

#280789 Sep 15, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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There was also that chunk of the North Tower.
And small office fires?
http://www.iceberg911.net/wtc720-wtc-tour-7-i...
I see a lot of smoke Charles,.....a lot of smoke.
Like I said, I can't be arsed with this at the moment. Maybe I'll swing by in the future.
See ya.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#280790 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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" a multi-ton piece of Trade Tower slicing through from top to bottom and knocking out a support column holding up the transformer floor."
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That's a fuhking bald faced lie. sewerwater you can not prove that claim !
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And don't say hundreds of eyewitnesses saw it or that you already posted it . Say whatever you want but you can not prove this claim.
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Uh Huh Eh !
Prove it's a lie.

This video shows a large rip in the south side of building 7 before it collapsed. Evidence the building was far more damaged than conspiracy theorists suggest. Note the smoke coming directly from the rip and not building 6 as conspiracy theorists suggest. At 1:33 Min into the video someone says (Firefighters and police were the only ones allowed in the area so it is most likely a firefighter or policeman) "Look at the hole in that building... 7 world... that might come down". Anyone seeing this and suggesting no one knew the building was going to come down is lying.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

The firemen's testimony is on the same website.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#280791 Sep 15, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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http://youtu.be/t7LBq6jr1Yk
Insults Are Easier
YouTube.....FLUSHED

NEXT

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#280792 Sep 15, 2014
who wrote:
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One support column and a few small office fires don't make a controlled demolition style collapse
I hope there are no other buildings exactly like WTC7......Place was a friggin death trap.
I can't be arsed with this, life's too short.
Laters
Go the website instead of asking these stupid questions.

1. It was a huge fire and no standpipes and sprinklers.

2. WTC7 was just fine under normal circumstances. It wasn't built to withstand a huge chunk of trade tower slicing into it.

3. You are partially correct. Such a building could collapse if support columns were compromised in any way. It was not built well to hold an eclectic substation.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280793 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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NO allegedly hijacked airliner were intercepted by any allegedly defensive aircraft on 9/11.
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iCarly, Show us a example of the fastest intercept time over North America. it was a hour and a half, WITH A WORKING TRANSPONDER! Longer than the planes on 9-11 were in the air.

Prove me wrong.

PS: Make up your mind, where there planes involved or not, LMFAO!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#280794 Sep 15, 2014
who wrote:
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WTC7 wasn't hit by a plane...but never mind.
There are (as you know) no other examples of jetliners crashing into steel framed structures at 500 mph. There are however many examples of normal office fires, none of which resulted in a controlled demolition style collapse.
There are also firefighters who say that there were secondary explosions in the building
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G1zED8dy63wXX
You just debunked yourself.

1. The firemen described the explosions as "secondary explosions." Secondary explosions in firefighting lingo means explosions associated with a raging fire.

2. The firemen were talking about the Trade Tower. They were not talking about WTC7. They were talking about going upstairs in the Trade Tower. Typical cherry picked Twoofer nonsense.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#280795 Sep 15, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Took so long for why there was little or no response !....
I don't care WHY there was no response. That's another basket of worms we may address later .
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So there was no response but there was a response?

There were planes but there were no planes?

Oh iCarly! You debunk yourself.
Willow

Lincolnton, NC

#280796 Sep 15, 2014
WOW..it's a new day in the neighborhood.So much to see that hasn't been seen before.
Where are 'Cornell's' Puppets?
EXCLUSIVE: Never Before Seen Photos from 9/11 RELEASED..Looks like a Nuclear Disaster!
http://wearechange.org/exclusive-never-seen-p...

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