Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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Was 9 11 a conspiracy

Virginia Beach, VA

#278939 Aug 22, 2014
Was 9/11 a conspiracy??
Pegasus

Plainville, MA

#278942 Aug 22, 2014
JudgeNJury wrote:
When Sheen went to bed today do you think he was happy that he accomplished nothing by being on Topix all day long ??
Well looky here....if it isn't Mr. Post All Day..........and you have the sack to bitch about Charlie?

Another day burns up and the Truther renegades have failed to produce ANY evidence in regard to 911.
MUQ1

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#278943 Aug 23, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Were the planes hijacked? Yes or no.
Hijacked by whom? If pilots change the route of plane, is it called Hijacking?
Pegasus

Plainville, MA

#278944 Aug 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hijacked by whom? If pilots change the route of plane, is it called Hijacking?
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you .

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#278948 Aug 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hijacked by whom? If pilots change the route of plane, is it called Hijacking?
Were the planes hijacked? Yes or no.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#278949 Aug 23, 2014
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>
Well looky here....if it isn't Mr. Post All Day..........and you have the sack to bitch about Charlie?
Another day burns up and the Truther renegades have failed to produce ANY evidence in regard to 911.
They never will because it's a paranoid tangent.
Pegasus

Philadelphia, PA

#278950 Aug 23, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
They never will because it's a paranoid tangent.
Right you are WW, that and a ulterior motive.....these "truther" clowns are just spammers who hit the jackpot with the thousands upon thousands of forums within Topix and they only keep the bullshit up on this forum to slip in the links that lead to the ads ...so on and so forth.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#278952 Aug 23, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Observe the failed logic and lack of character from the main smear merchant, who can only attract other smear merchants to his cause of anti-truth.
Excellent, you've written an abstract so I know what to expect from your reply!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Irrelevant straw-man, whats important here is where the densest part of the aircraft engines would have hit, where you see the support structure and windows of the building remained intact.
Moron, the hole was over 90' wide. The sections where the engines would have impacted were completely gone.

Oh and you have as much of a grasp on logic as you do science....none. Regardless of whether you agree with me, that's not a straw man.

How big was the hole? That was the question Ignorance and yet again you fail to answer a simple question which you've already made a straw man argument out of...16'-18' was what you've claimed....it wasn't and you're lying but not man enough to admit it...like always.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>There was no stand down order, thats a straw man, the drills slowed the response to make 9/11 possible, thats a fact.
Again, you don't know what a straw man is.

Plus you and every twoofer here have claimed there was a stand down order and everyone of you have claimed it was proven by Mineta's testimony....and you've been debunked.

Trying to change the subject and once again avoid being a grown up by admitting your "honest mistake" ( see mindless acceptance of twoofer scripture) is a cheap ploy that may work in twooferDUMB but I won't fall for it.

You claimed there was a stand down order and you were lying.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#278953 Aug 23, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Porkpie Hat wrote, "And how long did WTC 7 take to collapse?"

Depends on who you believe, but relying on zero evidence, no debris mapping before it was hauled offsite, and a computer model that does not resemble the observed event, nor been independently verified, is much more scientifically unreasonable then any guess I could postulate.
Complete and utter nonsense and the patented obfuscation you losers are mocked for.

The time of collapse obviously has to include the collapses of both penthouses plus the collapse of the external facade.

That time can be measured by simply watching the raw video footage which includes a view of the penthouses. That video makes it clear the collapses took at least double the 6.5 seconds twoofers claim and have been proven wrong on since 2006.

Yet as a twoofer you choose to perpetuate that lie rather than call other twoofers on it.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>There isn't, but there is no validation of the opposing theory either. The failure of NIST to follow basic scientific protocol shows the intentional attempt to cover up what it actually was, and you don't cover-up things that have an innocent explanation.
You've proven over and over and over that you're completely scientifically illiterate and have a penchant for accepting only what supports your religious cult.

Your opinion regarding science is a joke....particularly given all the idiotic claims you've made that are scientifically invalid (ie. free fall = cd....etc.)

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#278954 Aug 23, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Porkpie Hat wrote, "And how much explosive force does therm?te have?"

None, but it can produce explosive sounds depending on the type used and the type and location of the delivery system.
Hahahahahaha!!!!

Omg you're a flipping fool!

The only way to create an explosive sound using an incendiary would be to trap the gases of the reaction until they create enough force to destroy whatever device you "think" was holding this alleged device....and then what????

Are you trying to claim it created enough force to cut through a column?

And if that was the intent....to create a weak explosive out of an incendiary, why not just use what demolition experts have been using for ages, HE propelled directional shape charges?

Reality is your "explosive force of thermite claim" was extremely foolish and belies your complete ignorance and need to defend your lie by making up new lies which defy logic.

And then there's the problem with the main argument for superduperthermite being based on a paper which claims it was a coating only a few mils thick.

Wow, just wow! Thanks once again for epitomizing exactly why you losers are ignored by the scientific community.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Explosive sounds were reported, and ignored by NIST, again pointing to a cover-up.
Explosives used for severing structural columns and the sounds of explosions from things expected to explode in fires are vastly different.

Not one twoofer has tried to tie the timing of these reported sounds to the collapse showing correlation nor has one ever interviewed those that witnessed them nor has any video ever surfaced with the very distinct sound of HE devices.

Why? Because your fantasy was never a reality and claiming an incendiary was used in such a way is preposterous....you should have read your self debunking article you posted when making your idiotic "explosive force of therm?te" screw up....you might have learned a little about why HE is used for demolition.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Porkpie Hat wrote, "And why is it every one of your idiotic twoofer talking points have been debunked yet you bring no defence of that or new material?"

They haven't, they have only been smeared away by smear merchants of anti-truth like you, who rely on those tactics of smear to make your points.
Every single one has and all you can muster is what you've done here, blather and bluff.

I don't fall for your obvious crap, any scientist worth his/her salt definitely wouldn't either.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Porkpie Hat wrote, "Oh right, you're just the sheep."

Just a baseless assertion by a copy/paste smear merchant who knows no other way to be convincing or to be convinced. A characterless fool who has wasted years trying to make himself feel better by claiming at all costs there was no inside job - because his ego can't handle the possibility.

This is why for him

Insults Are Easier
Oh the massive, delicious bloody irony!

Oh but thanks for given me even more quotes to prove your scientific illiteracy and utter ineptness in defending the lie of twoof.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#278955 Aug 23, 2014
And here's Ignorance is Bliss "not" claiming there was a stand down order....and "not" using a paraphrase from Mineta's testimony.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Heres more flawed logic from Aura Myths.
1. Aura Myths states: No reason to consider SAM's, because the intercept aircraft failed.
In reality, the Pentagon did and does have access to SAM battery protection, and using SAM's is irrelevant to the failure of the aircraft intercepts.
"Mr. Vice President, the plane is 40 miles out, then 30, then 20, do your orders still stand?"
"Of course they do, have you heard me say anything different?"
That is a stand down order, plain and simple.
2. Aura Myths states: No one predicted planes could be hijacked and used as weapons.
In reality, the drills on 9/11, and before, that crippled our ability to respond and prevent some of the damage, were based on exactly that scenario. In the mid 90's, Tom Clancy wrote a book on exactly that scenario.
3. Aura Myths states: It was impossible to intercept those aircraft, given their short range after hijack to target.
In reality, this is just patently false. What made it impossible was how drills, supposedly intended to give us better security, instead destroyed our security by cluttering up our ATC radars with false tracks, engaging our alert fighters so airbases near the hijacks were unavailable for deployment.
9/11 Intercepted
http://youtu.be/f6WSDxErgBE
Aura Myths parrots propaganda that It was impossible on 9/11 to prevent it. Reality & logic state that only on 9/11 was it impossible to prevent or minimize 9/11, due to the crippling training exercises.
The idea that the terrorists accidentally timed their attacks to coincide with our drills, that severely disabled our response to it, is the real myth.
But Aura Myths fits in nicely with the smear campaigners of anti-truth that inhabit this topic. He knows as they do, that you don't need logic to debate your points, all you need is fraudulent condescension, because
Insults Are Easier
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

Why is it twofers like Ignorance are always lying to cover for other lies they previously told?

Oh right, it's the twoof!
Pegasus

Plainville, MA

#278956 Aug 23, 2014
Go figure.....the weekend shift at Taco Bell and all the Truthers disappear.

Minimum wage has a failsafe...it's called spamming.

Hahahahahahahahaha

“SHEEN IS A LIAR”

Since: Dec 10

Lincoln, NE

#278957 Aug 23, 2014
Or maybe you guys have no lives and we do
Pegasus wrote:
Go figure.....the weekend shift at Taco Bell and all the Truthers disappear.
Minimum wage has a failsafe...it's called spamming.
Hahahahahahahahaha
you cant handle the truth

Virginia Beach, VA

#278958 Aug 23, 2014
you can't handle the truth

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#278959 Aug 23, 2014
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you .
Are YOU the sharpest tool in the arsenal? Considering 9/11, Pilots were the "best people" to do it, without any one getting any wiser.

That was the FIRST thing which investigators should have verified.

Do not miss out any one in such things

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#278960 Aug 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are YOU the sharpest tool in the arsenal? Considering 9/11, Pilots were the "best people" to do it, without any one getting any wiser.
That was the FIRST thing which investigators should have verified.
Do not miss out any one in such things
Considering the scope of such a massive tragedy, it's pretty hard to say what first thing should have verified. I would think though, it would be if any other attacks were coming.
I'd imagine it would have to be a short list of things to do , concerning rescue and containment.
But it's pretty hard to organize things under such duress and calamity, all in all they did the best they could. As far as investigation into it all, well that's a priority on the back burner . But the NSA
knew lots from before the fact, they however could not at that time do anything about it.
It was the worst thing that could happen to us, it transformed the government into a monster of necessity. It wasn't what was wanted, but it was what was needed, in effort to circumvent any more attacks of this nature.

Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001

USA PATRIOT ACT

We will forever hate jihadists because of it.

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#278961 Aug 23, 2014
Bojinka plot

The Bojinka plot was a planned large-scale three phase Islamist attack by Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. The attack would involve a plot to assassinate Pope John Paul II, an air bombing of 11 airliners flying from Asia to the United States with their approximately 4,000 passengers, and a proposal to crash a plane into the headquarters of the CIA in Fairfax County, Virginia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka_plot

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#278962 Aug 23, 2014
2006 transatlantic aircraft plot
The 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot was a terrorist plot to detonate liquid explosives carried on board at least 10 airliners travelling from the United Kingdom to the United States and Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlant...
Was 9 11 a conspiracy

Virginia Beach, VA

#278963 Aug 23, 2014
Was 9/11 a conspiracy??
Thank You Captain Obvious

Virginia Beach, VA

#278964 Aug 23, 2014
Topix thread at this following link, below:
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