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I bet you would not say that to my father he is a good human being who fought for this country.
You best leave me and my family out of your sick perversions.

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U.S. Covert Operations and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001
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“…the gangsters in Lansdale’s employ were the very gangsters the FBN was chasing–Carlos Marcello, Santos Trafficante, Meyer Lansky, and Lucky Luciano.… The CIA’s connection, of course, began with ‘Wild Bill’ Donovan’s old OSS and its recruitment of Lucky Luciano and the Corsican mafiosi to beat and murder Communist union dockworkers in Marseilles and elsewhere along the Mediterranean Coast, and to seize Sicily from the Communists. With CIA blessing, and using drug running as a way of financing activities, the Mafia set up drug supply routes back to the U.S. Many an FBN operation would trace the drugs back to Mafia sources, in turn supplied through Lebanon, Turkey, Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the Middle East, only to be thwarted by the far more powerful CIA stepping in and terminating the investigation on national security grounds.”60
It would be Lansdale’s team that would propose and justify sacrificing innocent U.S. civilians in order to rally the American citizenry to support an invasion of foreign soil. This was done under a program run by Brigadier General William H. Craig, who reported to Lansdale for the Cuba project.61 This project was called Operation Northwoods. Documents for this project would be accidentally released from the files of Robert McNamara into the public domain some 40 years later, exposing the degree to which Lansdale’s operatives would go to wage war. 62 In these documents, the U.S. military acknowledged it could wage a “terror” campaign against US citizens in order to justify a second invasion of Cuba. It would be the first official recognition that US intelligence operations used terrorist tactics.
It was Lansdale who oversaw the set up of assassination squads to target Fidel Castro while operating out of Florida. One of Lansdale’s proteges’ in the assassination business was Ted Shackley, would go on to set up assassination squads in Vietnam under Operation Phoenix.63 Shackley would take Felix Rodriguez with him from the Cuba Project to Laos for a secret war in support of Vietnam. Felix Rodriguez was a close confidante of former CIA Director George H.W. Bush, and maintained direct phone contact with Bush when Bush became Vice President under Ronald Reagan.64 When the U.S. intelligence funded, Iran-Contra gun running pilot was shot down in Nicaragua, it was Rodriguez that called George Bush to let him know that the pilot had been captured alive. In Vietnam, Shackley and Rodriguez would expand their circle of operatives to include Oliver North, Richard Secord and Richard Armitage. North, Secord and Armitage had proven themselves as men who could ‘get results’ against the communists by operating outside of the rules. They would provide the second generation of U.S. black ops leadership. The ‘whatever it takes’ zeal that these men developed in service of their country was ruled unacceptable in U.S. Military courts at the Mai Lai Massacre trial65, but it was still condoned by ‘apparatus belli’ spawned by Wild Bill Donovan.
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Irrelevant drivel. No connection what so ever.

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Son of onemale, he did your Grandma!
ONEMALE regarding his MOTHER!
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You can not find a structure which was 47 stories high and completely collapsed to dust in 6.6 seconds other than WTC 7.
Also keep in mind the NIST report you quote from is not fact, its only one theory.
Your nativity is amusing.
Red herring fallacy. No connection.

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Sure thing nikkionemaleweb <quoted text>
Charlie?
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What Was in the World Trade Center Plume?
Ten years later, what exactly residents and rescue workers were exposed to remains at least a partial mystery

It was such a horrific event," says environmental scientist Paul Lioy of the Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences Institute in New Jersey, who was contacted by both the federal government and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to collect samples of the pulverized remains of the Twin Towers in the days following the attack. "What was the contribution of the gases [from combustion]?"

The real answer to that question will never be known as few direct measurements were taken of the plume that followed the disintegration of the two towers into a blizzard of dust, though air samples were collected in subsequent weeks and months. Regardless, the then administrator of the U.S.

Environmental Protection Agency and former governor of New Jersey Christie Whitman said on September 13, 2001, "EPA is greatly relieved to have learned that there appears to be no significant levels of asbestos dust in the air in New York City." She added: "We will continue to monitor closely." And five days later, she announced: "I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breath.

So many unswered questions.
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I bet you would not say that to my father he is a good human being who fought for this country.
Yea, We heard all about your dad the wang inspector!

What a freak!

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<quoted text>That is total BS, my son was in the military for 4 years and he said blacks were no bigger than whites, in fact the largest was white.
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What Was in the World Trade Center Plume?
So many unswered questions.
We can be assured you will answer those questions with more fallacies.

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Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Changing the subject? Still waiting, have your coward father lover hive you a hand (job), they may clear your head.
You admitted fire can lead to a collapses of a steel framed building, as son as you hop off daddy onemales lap and get your pants back on answer this!
The towers and building 7 were essentially bolted together like an erector set. No concrete was used to create a ridged block or protect the columns. The steel webbing was pushed to the outer walls.
A challenge to conspiracy theorists:
1) Find a steel frame building at least 40 stories high
2) Which takes up a whole city block
3) And is a "Tube in a tube" design
4) Which came off its core columns at the bottom floors (Earthquake, fire, whatever - WTC 7)
5) Which was struck by another building or airliner and had structural damage as a result.
6) And weakened by fire for over 6 hours
7) And had trusses that were bolted on with two 5/8" bolts.
And which, after all seven tests are met, the building does not fall down. Anyone dissecting this into 7 separate events is lying to you.
Anything less than meeting these seven tests is dishonest because it's not comparing apples with apples. Showing a much lighter 4, 5 or even 15 story building which doesn't even take up a city block, and has an old style steel web design leaves out the massive weight the 47 story WTC 7 had bearing down on its south face columns. Yes, this is "moving the bar", back to where it should have started.
I haven't changed the subject it's important to know what was in the dust to better understand why the building collapsed in such a manner.
psst You are not good at playing engineer might I suggest you do the pretend lawyer thing again.
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Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Changing the subject? Still waiting, have your coward father lover hive you a hand (job), they may clear your head.
You admitted fire can lead to a collapses of a steel framed building, as son as you hop off daddy onemales lap and get your pants back on answer this!
The towers and building 7 were essentially bolted together like an erector set. No concrete was used to create a ridged block or protect the columns. The steel webbing was pushed to the outer walls.
A challenge to conspiracy theorists:
1) Find a steel frame building at least 40 stories high
2) Which takes up a whole city block
3) And is a "Tube in a tube" design
4) Which came off its core columns at the bottom floors (Earthquake, fire, whatever - WTC 7)
5) Which was struck by another building or airliner and had structural damage as a result.
6) And weakened by fire for over 6 hours
7) And had trusses that were bolted on with two 5/8" bolts.
And which, after all seven tests are met, the building does not fall down. Anyone dissecting this into 7 separate events is lying to you.
Anything less than meeting these seven tests is dishonest because it's not comparing apples with apples. Showing a much lighter 4, 5 or even 15 story building which doesn't even take up a city block, and has an old style steel web design leaves out the massive weight the 47 story WTC 7 had bearing down on its south face columns. Yes, this is "moving the bar", back to where it should have started.
Indeed. Also would have tons of ConEdison sized transformers loading the cantilevered seventh floor supported by three vertical trusses and outer columns, one of which failed. What's more, the load shifted after a huge chunk was taken out by part of the Trade Tower and internal fire.

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I haven't changed the subject it's important to know what was in the dust to better understand why the building collapsed in such a manner.
psst You are not good at playing engineer might I suggest you do the pretend lawyer thing again.
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What could we learn from the dust? What the Tower were made of? Isn't that already know?

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Your collapse time is wrong Bo Bo the monkey boy
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You can not find a structure which was 47 stories high and completely collapsed to dust in 6.6 seconds other than WTC 7.
Also keep in mind the NIST report you quote from is not fact, its only one theory.
Your nativity is amusing.

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Even Twoofer Steven Jones admitts the time is wrong

"We screwed up. We had never seen the CBS video when we claimed that it took WTC 7 6.5 seconds to collapse. We only relied on the street video that does not show the Penthouses. By the time we saw the CBS video, we had so much invested in the 6.5-second collapse time, we could not disappoint our supporters who were successfully using the 6.5 free fall time to push 9/11 Truth. We just ignored the evidence.- Dr Steven Jones, 5/19/07 (BNN - May 19, 2007 - New York, NY)


WE JUST IGNORED THE EVIDENCE - 9/11 TWOOF
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Your collapse time is wrong Bo Bo the monkey boy
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What could we learn from the dust? What the Tower were made of? Isn't that already know?
Before you come at me like a rabid dog try to comprehend.

Peer reviewed findings in the WTC dust

Jones
The small size of the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as nanothermite or super-thermite...Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.

NIST was approached with the samples of dust supposedly containing thermite from the Wtc.
NIST's response was the dust can not be verified because of the chain of custody meaning NIST could not be sure if the the thermite was found in the dust from the Wtc's, which is understandable.
So NIST was asked to collect samples of dust and conduct their own investigation using their own chain of Custody but they declined.

If NIST had complied and sampled the dust the rumors of thermite could have been either validated or put to rest.

Why didn't NIST test the samples?

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I lost half my brain in a Slurpee Machine explosion and even I know 9/11 was an inside job

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The thermite nonsense was already put to rest but you are too stupid to know about it because it wasnt posted on some idiotic Twoofer website

Report of Results: MVA9119
Report on the
Analysis of Red/Gray Chips
in WTC Dust
Prepared for:
Classical Guide
Feb, 2012
Denver, CO
James R. Millette, Ph.D.
Executive Director
MVA Scientific Consultants
3300 Breckinridge Boulevard
Suite 400 Duluth, GA 30096

Conclusions
The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments.
There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nano-thermite.

Don't cry now !!!!
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Before you come at me like a rabid dog try to comprehend.
Peer reviewed findings in the WTC dust
Jones
The small size of the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as nanothermite or super-thermite...Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
NIST was approached with the samples of dust supposedly containing thermite from the Wtc.
NIST's response was the dust can not be verified because of the chain of custody meaning NIST could not be sure if the the thermite was found in the dust from the Wtc's, which is understandable.
So NIST was asked to collect samples of dust and conduct their own investigation using their own chain of Custody but they declined.
If NIST had complied and sampled the dust the rumors of thermite could have been either validated or put to rest.
Why didn't NIST test the samples?

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and you are still smarter then most Twoofers
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I lost half my brain in a Slurpee Machine explosion and even I know 9/11 was an inside job

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The thermite nonsense was already put to rest but you are too stupid to know about it because it wasnt posted on some idiotic Twoofer website
Report of Results: MVA9119
Report on the
Analysis of Red/Gray Chips
in WTC Dust
Prepared for:
Classical Guide
Feb, 2012
Denver, CO
James R. Millette, Ph.D.
Executive Director
MVA Scientific Consultants
3300 Breckinridge Boulevard
Suite 400 Duluth, GA 30096
Conclusions
The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments.
There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nano-thermite.
Don't cry now !!!!
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Only one person?
Can you link other peer reviews?

Nano Thermite found in First Responders lungs.
The finding of carbon nanotubes in the lungs of first responders suggests two possible explanations. The nanotubes might have been formed in the unusual environment at Ground Zero, where extremely high temperatures and the presence of airborne metallic species gives yet more evidence for the presence of thermitic materials. Alternatively, the nanotubes might have been components of energetic materials. In either case, the presence of carbon nanotubes in the lungs of WTC first responders suggests the use of energetic materials and should be studied in more depth. These facts and research findings warrant further study of the correlation between environmental testing results, first responder health study results, and the use of energetic materials at the WTC.
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LMFAO, The why is it missing a major competent, Barium Nitrate, But matches epoxy based paint exactly son of onemale?
-Web wrote:
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Before you come at me like a rabid dog try to comprehend.
Peer reviewed findings in the WTC dust
Jones
The small size of the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as nanothermite or super-thermite...Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
NIST was approached with the samples of dust supposedly containing thermite from the Wtc.
NIST's response was the dust can not be verified because of the chain of custody meaning NIST could not be sure if the the thermite was found in the dust from the Wtc's, which is understandable.
So NIST was asked to collect samples of dust and conduct their own investigation using their own chain of Custody but they declined.
If NIST had complied and sampled the dust the rumors of thermite could have been either validated or put to rest.
Why didn't NIST test the samples?

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