Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

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#274055 Jul 2, 2014
build..... Topix runs so slow that whole words and characters get dropped.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#274056 Jul 2, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Not bad. Suppose we scale model tower and fly a Cessna into it. Oops, that doesn't work. The Cessna doesn't fly fast enough. Never mind, Twoofs don't know the difference. Since he is paying, should the tower remain standing or fall down?
I have no idea what it would do, in a half serious manner the experiment would be valid and not predetermined. But the half says that's why a scale model isn't feasible, it would be fiscally improbable anyone would spend this money, and it really wouldn't be cheap.
That's why scale modeling isn't done like that.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#274057 Jul 2, 2014
or silk ...... LMAO !!!!!!!!
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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He worships Satin? How about Plaid?
I love how you wear religion on your sleeve but have no morals what so ever you sick daughter banging freak!

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#274058 Jul 2, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I have no idea what it would do, in a half serious manner the experiment would be valid and not predetermined. But the half says that's why a scale model isn't feasible, it would be fiscally improbable anyone would spend this money, and it really wouldn't be cheap.
That's why scale modeling isn't done like that.
One college level experiment built a tower of sticks, then shot it with a sling-shot high up. It successively collapsed just like the towers did. They did a video and then slowed it up.

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#274059 Jul 2, 2014
Yet another theory.

According to a theory advanced by a materials scientist in Norway, a mixture of water from sprinkler systems and molten aluminum from melted aircraft hulls created explosions that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center's Twin Towers in Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2001.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/...

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#274060 Jul 2, 2014
Yet another piece refuting Twoof.

After ten years, the pesky 9/11 Truth movement has refined its arguments but still hasn’t proved the attacks were an inside job. Their key claims are refuted on multiple grounds.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_9_11_truth_...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#274061 Jul 2, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>"just too bad they don't represent what I said"
That is a common attention disorder among the debwunkers...
Sorry Charlie seems to have the biggest disorder problem of them all.
Let's all get together in front of a panel of independent experts representing each discipline...you can say anything you want and you'd still get laughed out of the room for falling for the pseudoscience you losers find so convincing.

We'll make sure there's a mechanical and materials engineer there to explain to you why the valves in the short bus you ride don't warp!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#274062 Jul 2, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>Go foi it!
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>It's obvious you're not very bright.
Really, really obvious.

Did you know that 180mph is slower than 500mph?

Of course you don't, you're far too stupid to understand that simple fact.

E=1/2m(v*v) ring a bell?

Of course it doesn't, you're a scientifically illiterate fool.

Now would E increase with velocity?

No manyfails, I'm not asking you since you're just too stupid to understand.

[email protected] empty

E=1/2*55,580kg(80m/s*80m/s)=17 7,856kJ

[email protected] empty

E=1/2*57,840kg(223m/s*223m/s)= 1,438,162kJ

Oh look! Of course you never bothered to verify anything you "read" (see
mindlessly regurgitated) and you're dead wrong about the energy of impact.
BTW, a the lightest 767 is heavier than the heaviest 707 you moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_707#Speci...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767#Speci...

(My calculations are based on a 757 is your best case scenario to win the
argument and you still lose by a landslide!)

The good news is, with friends like you twoof needs no enemies.

The bad news is, you are every bit as dumb as I thought.

But hey, good luck with that!
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Run Manyfails! Run!!!!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274063 Jul 2, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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And you have many times, with his original posts.
"Glutton for punishment" is such an apt phrase for the poor little bastard!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274064 Jul 2, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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In reality, the Pentagon did and does have access to SAM battery protection, and using SAM's is irrelevant to the failure of the aircraft intercepts.
"Mr. Vice President, the plane is 40 miles out, then 30, then 20, do your orders still stand?"
"Of course they do, have you heard me say anything different?"
That is a stand down order, plain and simple.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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In reality eh?
So where's your evidence that is true Ignorance?
Because as far as I've ever seen regarding this lie used to bolster the lie called twoof, it's a complete and utter fabrication that has never been supported with anything other than empty claims.
Regarding your claim that Mineta's recounting of his experience , it's too bad you never read the entire testimony since you've just made a fool of yourself once again due to your utter lack of honesty and reliance on charlatans for accurate information.
Here's Mineta's full commentary on what he witnessed;
" MR. HAMILTON: We thank you for that. I wanted to focus just a moment on the Presidential Emergency Operating Center. You were there for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the vice president. And when you had that order given, I think it was by the president, that authorized the shooting down of commercial aircraft that were suspected to be controlled by terrorists, were you there when that order was given?
MR. MINETA: No, I was not. I was made aware of it during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant. And --
MR. HAMILTON: The flight you're referring to is the --
MR. MINETA: The flight that came into the Pentagon.
MR. HAMILTON: The Pentagon, yeah.
MR. MINETA: And so I was not aware that that discussion had already taken place. But in listening to the conversation between the young man and the vice president, then at the time I didn't really recognize the significance of that.
And then later I heard of the fact that the airplanes had been scrambled from Langley to come up to DC, but those planes were still about 10 minutes away. And so then, at the time we heard about the airplane that went into Pennsylvania, then I thought, "Oh, my God, did we shoot it down?" And then we had to, with the vice president, go through the Pentagon to check that out.
MR. HAMILTON: Let me see if I understand. The plane that was headed toward the Pentagon and was some miles away, there was an order to shoot that plane down.
MR. MINETA: Well, I don't know that specifically, but I do know that the airplanes were scrambled from Langley or from Norfolk, the Norfolk area. But I did not know about the orders specifically other than listening to that other conversation.
MR. HAMILTON: But there very clearly was an order to shoot commercial aircraft down.
MR. MINETA: Subsequently I found that out. "
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/archive/he...
As always, your attempts to defend the lie of twoof forces you tell other lies all because deep down, you really are nothing but a pathetic liar.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

Now Ignorance did claim his twoof was not based on Mineta's testimony...which is what he used as an argument...but he just can't find what "proofs" led him to that conclusion.

Because as usual, he's lying for twoof!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274065 Jul 2, 2014
And Ignorance's post on plated steel vs. non-plated steel which shows he's so intent on keeping twoofs lies alive that he will lie about subjects he's totally clueless in to carry on the twoofy charade!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Well anti-truth, plated steel has melted in office fires, but the point is steel never has. Your two examples of steel melting were causes by steel failing by a fuel fed fire. At WTC, the aircraft exploded, burning off the fuel rapidly. Did you see a cloud of unburnt fuel cascading down on the street below? No, because it was consumed in the fireball.
So who's the liar? Never mind, liar.
And make no mistake, steel did melt on 9-11.
http://youtu.be/h7S9bnd_pnY
The WTC meteorite, the un cracked horseshoe steel beams, was a result of high temps not attainable in office fires. With the exploding fireball consuming the fuel quickly, what we saw was simply a multi floor office fire.
John Gross is seen in this video claiming witnesses never said steel melted. He is either incompetent, compartmentalized, or simply lying. But it shows the mindset of the NIST investigation to be fraudulent.
The space beam theory is not something I personally can vouch for, but its not something I can rule out either. This technology has been around since Tesla, and obviously continued to this day.
http://youtu.be/6AiFL9FSz-E
So you should just concern yourself with Canadians, because America doesn't require you to tell us what to know, given your lack of understanding in American affairs.
Stupid repetitive Canadian, without the words twoofer and moron, you would be speechless.
Insults Are Easier
Note the extreme desperation in trying to claim ALL the unspent fuel was consumed in the fire ball while ignoring the reality that that same fuel started a multi-floor fire I mere seconds.

And of course the desperate attempt to change the subject.

“Seventh son”

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#274066 Jul 2, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
Yet another theory.
According to a theory advanced by a materials scientist in Norway, a mixture of water from sprinkler systems and molten aluminum from melted aircraft hulls created explosions that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center's Twin Towers in Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2001.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/...

Of course the water created the rust, the rust mixed with al U many um , and became
SuPer Duper Thermate With the molecular structure of PaInT, perfect for twoof sniffing.
All you need now is a DEW lighter and BINGO PRESTO!

Instant twoof movement.....

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274067 Jul 2, 2014
Ignorances response to me posting multiple articles regarding reports of molten steel in other fires...some from many years before 2001 which he tried to at first hand wave away as yellow journalism then just lied and claimed he did his own "reesurch" which proved "plated steel melts in fires but steel never does".

O course he never could present a single link to support that...because he was just lying for twoof!
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, go back and address my posts about "molten steel".
Particularly the ones citing past news stories covering other fires which also mentioned molten steel.
Funny how you refuse to address on topic posts which destroy your delusions then whine about people being off topic eh vulgar-tommy?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Except those stories reference steel that is plated and an office fire melted the plating.
And those building didn't symmetrically completely collapse and at no point did they free fall.
And NIST didn't provide a cover up for those investigations as it did for 9/11.
But debunking is hard and
Insults Are Easier
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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I never referenced your quoted paper, I referenced my own search on the subject. So pull it up, and re-comprehend what you missed.
Im sure not all Canadians act as you on a daily basis, or have all descended from traitorous sheep. I simply quoted historical fact, and South Park.
Your circular logic escapes me. You quote failed investigations that are shown to not be thorough, then ask for people to cite examples of tests never performed by the un-thorough investigation.
Only a traitorous descendant of anti-freedom refugees can fully explain the Canadian sheep mentality that you possess. With an elitist, name calling, scumbag mentality to boot.
Thats why
Insults Are Easier
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274068 Jul 2, 2014
And of course I'm just "smearing" the idjit...by posting his exact words in context with links for anyone to check!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274069 Jul 2, 2014
Here's a gem!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Thats because themitic explosive force was not accounted for.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

Now Ignorance goes on to "support" his claim by posting this article;

http://911scholars.ning.com/m/discussion...

Which is actually an article debunking his claim....with more gems like;

"One limitation inherent in any thermite energetic material is the inability of the energetic material to do pressure/volume-work on an object. Thermites release energy in the form of heat and light, but are unable to move objects."

Now go back and parse Ignorance's own words; " themitic explosive force"...

But even though the premise of the article is to debunk his claim and only a complete lack of reading comprehension and a non-observant nature could miss that, Ignorance still insists the article supports him!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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I read the paper, it points out the waves generated by nano-thermate are far less then high explosives, not that it can't produce sound waves.
One of these days I'd like to meet one of these mythical twoofers you claim exist, until then
Insults Are Easier
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...

Which again just reiterates his scientific illiteracy as it makes absolutely no bloody sense!

Mythical eh Ignorance?

Oh frikking my!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#274070 Jul 2, 2014
And still waiting for any twoofer to support that;

1) Molten steel = cd

2) Free fall (speed...guffaw!)= cd

3) Symmetry = cd

4) Fire and gravity could not result in collapse

...using the scientific method of course!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#274071 Jul 2, 2014
That is a Gem! LMFAO!
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Here's a gem!
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Now Ignorance goes on to "support" his claim by posting this article;
http://911scholars.ning.com/m/discussion...
Which is actually an article debunking his claim....with more gems like;
"One limitation inherent in any thermite energetic material is the inability of the energetic material to do pressure/volume-work on an object. Thermites release energy in the form of heat and light, but are unable to move objects."
Now go back and parse Ignorance's own words; " themitic explosive force"...
But even though the premise of the article is to debunk his claim and only a complete lack of reading comprehension and a non-observant nature could miss that, Ignorance still insists the article supports him!
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Which again just reiterates his scientific illiteracy as it makes absolutely no bloody sense!
Mythical eh Ignorance?
Oh frikking my!

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#274072 Jul 2, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
And still waiting for any twoofer to support that;
1) Molten steel = cd
2) Free fall (speed...guffaw!)= cd
3) Symmetry = cd
4) Fire and gravity could not result in collapse
...using the scientific method of course!
I wonder. Does panty sniffing = cd?

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#274073 Jul 2, 2014
Did flight 77 get raptured?

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#274074 Jul 2, 2014
God did it.

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