Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Charlie Sheen

Mooresville, NC

#272767 Jun 17, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The Origins of the World Trade Center Attack
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey says that 9/11 is a 30 year old conspiracy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wDfm3NroVG8XX
Most historians track the history of September 11th to 1998 when Osama Bin Laden declared a fatwa or jihad against the U.S., and the terrorist “Hamburg Group” lead by Mohammed Atta reportedly “offered” it’s services to Al Qaeda.28
SO Bin Laden confessed, thanks for playing minimale!
Charlie Sheen

Mooresville, NC

#272768 Jun 17, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The Origins of the World Trade Center Attack
The name of this program appears to be Project Hammer, a previously reported, multi-billion dollar covert operation,‘third world investment program’ whose investments remain shielded.29 This program consisted of four major covert operations including:
1) Theft of the Soviet treasury,
2) Currency destabilization of the Ruble,
3) Funding of the KGB Generals’ August 1991 coup against Gorbachev, and
4) Takeover of the key energy and defense industries in the Soviet Union.
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-09-29/us-cove...
The name of this program "appears" to be Project Hammer. LMFAO APPEARS, with no links to sources in your link what so ever. If it's on the net, the twoofers take it in blind faith!

Have you ever read about the wonders of Scientology?
Charlie Sheen

Mooresville, NC

#272769 Jun 17, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The Origins of the World Trade Center Attack
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey says that 9/11 is a 30 year old conspiracy.
LMFAO!

Just keep re-posting it! We know twoof loves out of context quotes.

Using the same source as most conspiracy theorists, we come up with a different explanation as to what Kerrey was talking about.
Well, sounds like Kerrey is confusing "conspiracy theory" with the legal term for "conspiracy." But that's fine, his view still isn't in agreement with conspiracy theorists:

KERREY WAS DISMISSIVE OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES AS WELL. ASKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, HE SCOFFED, "THERE'S NO EVIDENCE FOR THAT……… SO I'M 100 PERCENT CERTAIN THAT [BIN LADEN] DIRECTED THAT ATTACK, but am I completely comfortable saying there was no direct Saudi involvement, or that Saddam Hussein wasn't involved in some fashion, or that the Iranians weren't involved? I'm pretty close to 100 percent certain, but I'd be more comfortable if we'd interviewed Khalid Shaikh Mohammed."

http://other.skepticproject.com/articles/quot...

Uh Huh Eh !
Pegasus

Bronx, NY

#272770 Jun 17, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
No, please. Not the mirror. lol
LOL......they have to sneak up on a mirror.
Charlie Sheen

Mooresville, NC

#272773 Jun 17, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Feel free to continue to whine about sentences taken out of context, all the while ignoring the real issues, of why 9/11 was necessary to get rid of incriminating evidence of billions of dollars of black ops going back more than 30 years against the govie.
But that's what you are trained to do, and it's all you know. No substantive refute of facts and evidence, only sniveling about minutiae in a vain attempt to ridicule truth-seekers providing real facts to no avail.
Are you crying, I agree, I was Bin Laden and some Saudi officials may have been in on it.

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Oh minimale!
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey claims 9/11 was a 30 year conspiracy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wDfm3NroVG8XX
(The claim is that the Saudi’s aids terrorists)
Using the same source as most conspiracy theorists, we come up with a different explanation as to what Kerrey was talking about.
Well, sounds like Kerrey is confusing "conspiracy theory" with the legal term for "conspiracy." But that's fine, his view still isn't in agreement with conspiracy theorists:

KERREY WAS DISMISSIVE OF THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES AS WELL. ASKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, HE SCOFFED, "THERE'S NO EVIDENCE FOR THAT……… SO I'M 100 PERCENT CERTAIN THAT [BIN LADEN] DIRECTED THAT ATTACK, but am I completely comfortable saying there was no direct Saudi involvement, or that Saddam Hussein wasn't involved in some fashion, or that the Iranians weren't involved? I'm pretty close to 100 percent certain, but I'd be more comfortable if we'd interviewed Khalid Shaikh Mohammed."

http://other.skepticproject.com/articles/quot...

Uh Huh Eh !

AND HEY!

Uh Huh Eh !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#272774 Jun 17, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did these "eye witness" saw that it was flight # 77? Was Flight number written on the plane?
And did by any chance "any" of these eye witnesses also "saw" who was pilotting these planes?
People with long beards and caps on their heads!!
Poor Liars!!
Where else could flight 77 have gone given all the tangible evidence?

Your questions are really ignorant of the pertinent facts.
headlinesPhotos

Marietta, GA

#272775 Jun 17, 2014
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*ANTICHRIST on world stage ----(*news)

http://youtu.be/YK8JdBd-gCY

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Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#272776 Jun 17, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did these "eye witness" saw that it was flight # 77? Was Flight number written on the plane?
And did by any chance "any" of these eye witnesses also "saw" who was pilotting these planes?
People with long beards and caps on their heads!!
Poor Liars!!
We all know it was the Jews and Bush flying those planes....LOL.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#272777 Jun 17, 2014
The Brownshirts of Anti-Truth spread lies that others lie, then call them antisemitic, as they hate all muslims.

The PNAC Documents

In the mid 90's the political think tank PNAC set forth its world domination agenda. PNAC was made up entirely of Neocons who took power when Bush became President, where they immediately got the catalyzing event of 9/11 they wanted for the 'New Pearl Harbor' required for their agenda.

PNAC is no longer a website on the web, showing things are removed and how talking about PNAC now does not make it a lie.

More lies from Porkypie's No Proof Lie

Proof is in the cover-up that immediately destroyed evidence, failed to follow fire investigation protocols to chemically check for explosives - Proof is NIST claiming nobody reported molten steel, when the dust that blanketed Manhattan had molten iron-spheres, along with numerous accounts from firefighters seeing molten steel. Thermal imaging from NASA showing abnormally high temps for weeks in the rubble, and photographic evidence.

No Real Scientific Investigation Required

In response to the question about the destruction of evidence, the Mayor of New York stated evidence is not required given todays computing power. In this statement, the official agenda to not truly investigate was admitted, and was verified by the methods used by NIST.

The Lie of Extraordinary Evidence Required To Prove Extraordinary Events

The standard for proving any event is the same, as science is science. This lie produces a mindset to not believe anything one is not conditioned to believe, and no facts presented can dispel their beliefs.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#272778 Jun 17, 2014
More Lies From Liars Who Lie Supported By That Dudley Guy

In order to justify the destruction of evidence and lack of scientific honesty, NIST claims 100 lbs of thermite is required to cut each column. This experiment shows that to be off by a factor of 100 to 1, and thermate is more powerful form of thermite.

http://youtu.be/kscTVnEcPMk

It also shows an explosive sound, due to the pressure build up in the delivery device that surrounds it. So arguing about what is or isn't an explosive is a lie to cover even thermate can make explosive sounds.

Thermate produces no seismographic fingerprint, so the claim that seismographic data proves airliners flown by terrorists is a lie.

Building 7 was modeled without physical evidence, does not show free fall speed at any point, claims the interior structure & floors fell without the walls in Wile Coyote cartoon like fashion. Produced by a computer, using secret software that still predicted no collapse until NIST increased the parameters outside of whats possible.

And they used zero physical evidence to base there 'science' on.

What you think, NIST was going to put a mathematically flawed theory out for the world to easily disprove? They creatively avoided evidence and focused on only the points that gave them their probable collapse scenario.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#272779 Jun 17, 2014
Other scientist proving the math is correct is expected, my question is did these other scientists question the chain of evidence NIST used to prop up their theory. Did they question NIST's theory about building 7 and how the NIST's model showed the interior collapsing without bringing the exterior walls along down with them.

Had NIST's or these enabler scientists goal been science and truth, they would have not ignored FEMA's appendix c, and explained what forces that steel was subject to.

http://rethink911.org/evidence/building-7/mel...

But NIST's goal was to promote its assumption that nothing else but jets brought down the towers, so it ignored that hunk of steel, and all the hunks of steel melted down, and every firefighter that saw rivers of molten steel.

http://youtu.be/fs_ogSbQFbM

How thorough can an investigation be when it doesn't listen to the radio transcripts from the firefighters that were there?

http://youtu.be/Kanj8gx4E1M

NIST claims they saw no reason to check for explosives, even though the protocols of global collapse demand it. The eyeball test is a weak excuse considering the amount of debris and the destruction of evidence started long before the NIST team began. What we have here is a SHAM Sunder AND John GROSS NEGLIGENCE of an INVESTIGATION, compartmentalized and led poorly from the top, then parroted by illogical people like you acting classless bringing up the rear.

Truth is, Truthers are the ones standing up for actual science and real investigations, while you are illiterately advocating assumptions and deceptions masquerading as science. Free fall not being a speed, while it is a form of speed, shows how you are willing to argue minutia to deceitfully name call to gloss over the significance of free fall occurring while a building collapses.

You copy and paste my insults and present them as if I said them to innocents, showing clearly how your own bias overwhelms your judgement, and how willing you are to deceive to make a point, even to yourself.

To debunk is to prove wrong, and that in itself makes debunkers nothing but biased fanatics who can't be trusted, because bias will make them only focus on what they want to prove untrue, while they ignore the merits Good investigative technique has no preconceptions, and follows wherever the evidence leads - none of that happened with NIST.

I know you can't see this because you are so self indoctrinated, you see this debate through those labels you copy and repeat. Your spam that you repeat endlessly isn't showing how stupid others are, it's showing how stupid you are, so much you can't even formulate new ways to discuss old ideas.

So if you want to keep promoting the lie that claims I lied, go ahead and continue to lie, and thats why

Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#272783 Jun 17, 2014
YellowPissreality wrote:
<quoted text>Behold 9/11 Twoof ....... the Religion of Stupidity
How so? Articulate your counterpoints. Or are you to stupid?

That must be why

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#272784 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Thermal imaging from NASA showing abnormally high temps for weeks in the rubble,.
Thermite and explosives spend their energy in a sceond to minutes (thermite) so what kept it molten son of onemale, a thermos, what does that even prove?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#272785 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
More Lies From Liars Who Lie Supported By That Dudley Guy
In order to justify the destruction of evidence and lack of scientific honesty, NIST claims 100 lbs of thermite is required to cut each column. This experiment shows that to be off by a factor of 100 to 1, and thermate is more powerful form of thermite.
http://youtu.be/kscTVnEcPMk
Not at all it does no calculations on the number of beams needed to be cut but it does say that the major component is barium nitrate, you know, the thing Jones could not find when he yelled he found thermate.

Try again or just cry in daddy onemales lap.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#272786 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
But NIST's goal was to promote its assumption that nothing else but jets brought down the towers, so it ignored that hunk of steel, and all the hunks of steel melted down, and every firefighter that saw rivers of molten steel.
Show one test that proved it was steel SON OF ONE MALE, a single test!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#272787 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Other scientist proving the math is correct is expected, my question is did these other scientists question the chain of evidence NIST used to prop up their theory. Did they question NIST's theory about building 7 and how the NIST's model showed the interior collapsing without bringing the exterior walls along down with them.
Ah, the penthouse fell many seconds before the exterior walls did flunkie.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#272788 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
NIST claims they saw no reason to check for explosives, even though the protocols of global collapse demand it.
Really, Go twoof Go.

13. Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?

Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.

In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses. According to calculations by the investigation team, the smallest blast capable of failing the building's critical column would have resulted in a sound level of 130 decibels (dB) to 140 dB at a distance of at least half a mile, if unobstructed by surrounding buildings. This sound level is consistent with a gunshot blast, standing next to a jet plane engine, and more than 10 times louder than being in front of the speakers at a rock concert.

For the building to have been prepared for intentional demolition, walls and/or column enclosures and fireproofing would have to be removed and replaced without being detected. Preparing a column includes steps such as cutting sections with torches, which produces noxious and odorous fumes. Intentional demolition usually requires applying explosive charges to most, if not all, interior columns, not just one or a limited set of columns in a building.

Now go cry in daddy onemales lap!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#272789 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
The Brownshirts of Anti-Truth spread lies that others lie, then call them antisemitic, as they hate all muslims.
The PNAC Documents
In the mid 90's the political think tank PNAC set forth its world domination agenda. PNAC was made up entirely of Neocons who took power when Bush became President, where they immediately got the catalyzing event of 9/11 they wanted for the 'New Pearl Harbor' required for their agenda.
PNAC is no longer a website on the web, showing things are removed and how talking about PNAC now does not make it a lie.
More lies from Porkypie's No Proof Lie
Proof is in the cover-up that immediately destroyed evidence, failed to follow fire investigation protocols to chemically check for explosives - Proof is NIST claiming nobody reported molten steel, when the dust that blanketed Manhattan had molten iron-spheres, along with numerous accounts from firefighters seeing molten steel. Thermal imaging from NASA showing abnormally high temps for weeks in the rubble, and photographic evidence.
No Real Scientific Investigation Required
In response to the question about the destruction of evidence, the Mayor of New York stated evidence is not required given todays computing power. In this statement, the official agenda to not truly investigate was admitted, and was verified by the methods used by NIST.
The Lie of Extraordinary Evidence Required To Prove Extraordinary Events
The standard for proving any event is the same, as science is science. This lie produces a mindset to not believe anything one is not conditioned to believe, and no facts presented can dispel their beliefs.
Proves your relentless ignorance.

Thanks for the funny stories.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#272790 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
No Real Scientific Investigation Required
"Free fall = cd"

"Molten steel = cd"

"Symmetry = cd"

"Plated steel melts at a lower melting point than non plated steel"

"Stand down orders"

"The entry hole in the pentagon was less than 20'"

Good work Ignorance!

You've finally summed up your position perfectly accepting that all the nonsense you accept as truth is in fact, nothing but twoof!

What's funny is how all these crazed morons going on shooting sprees sound like you, elevator boy and the rest of your delusional half witted ilk!

Why is that?

Oh right, none of you have the nads to grow a pair and own up to your own failures in life so instead blame everything on a very imperfect government.

Good luck with that moron and remember,

[Your] Ignorance [Will always be your] Bliss

PS. It's also quite comical how you try to label your adversaries as something synonymous with Nazis yet it's TEAM TWOOF with all the Nazi morons on it's side...good grief Ignorance, get yourself a frikking mirror and start thinking for a change!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#272792 Jun 17, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
It also shows an explosive sound, due to the pressure build up in the delivery device that surrounds it. So arguing about what is or isn't an explosive is a lie to cover even thermate can make explosive sounds.
Thermate produces no seismographic fingerprint, so the claim that seismographic data proves airliners flown by terrorists is a lie.
Seriously, quit "thinking" you understand the science you so obviously are oblivious to!

Therm?te has no seismic signature for one reason and one reason only, it's rate of energy release is pathetically inept to create anything resembling an explosion and containing the gases (what gases again Ignorance???) to create over pressurization therefore structural failure is about as dumb as a theory you could possibly manage since there's all kinds of explosives available that are tried and proven for doing the exact same job.

Your complete failure in understanding the science behind your position and your abject failure to applying logic define you. But that shouldn't be too surprising to anyone after you'd posted an article debunking you as support for your position

And let's not forget that your bible for the use of therm?te was previously the Bentham paper which claimed a layer only mils thick as a coating and that THERMATE includes barium which was not found in that alleged layer.

Sorry dummy but your fantasy fails on every level because,

[Your] Ignorance is [Your] Bliss

BTW, any proof there were missile batteries around the Pentagon yet?

Didn't think so.

Twoof; a lie that can only be defended by telling more lies all told by pathological liars like Ignorance is Bliss.

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