Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#269434 Apr 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry pal, not interested in the same propaganda that got you into this sorry state of affairs: a Canadian who apparently cares so much about the U.S. Government fairy tale-version of 9/11 that he is willing to spend all day making a fool of himself on their behalf.

Here's a list of media sources I consider reliable, at least to the extent that I'm aware they do the most fact-checking, have the most valid history of reporting news whether or not it agrees with the preferred government version of events, and actually care about their reputation for journalistic integrity:

The New York Times

Now, if you can post me some links to some NYT articles that somehow "debunk" 9/11 Truth, I'll be happy to click on them and comment on them.

But I'm not the YouTubed, Blogspotted, SuperPAC-sponsored baby bird you think I am, PH. I am literally so much smarter than you, the only analogy that comes to mind is that you are the Barney Fife to my Andy Taylor.

You take 9/11 Truth debate to such a low-level of evidence-ignoring snivelry, intellectual cowardice, ill-humored jokes, poorly-considered counterarguments, and juvenile asshattery, that you are, without question, the best evidence I could possibly present that Anti-Truthers may actually be retarded.

Now, gimme that bullet.
Again, your ignorant word salads aren't worth wasting the time to fully read.

If the best you can do is reference a self debunking newspaper article perhaps you should look for a hobby that doesn't require thinking.

Maybe remedial basket weaving. At least then you wouldn't have to lie about being a productive member of society.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#269435 Apr 24, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>And you've processed any evidence Ignorance?

Is that how you came to the conclusions that;

Molten metal = cd

Free fall [speed]= cd

Firefighters used thermal measuring devices to determine molten materials at gz were steel.

There was a stand down order.

Da ebil US gub'ment invented al Qaeda.

Steel when plated has a lower melting point than....steel.

You know Ignorance, all those claims you attempt to use as proof of your beliefs but utterly fail to support using the scientific method or any other valid methodology based on sound reasoning and logic.

But then,

[Your] Ignorance is [Your] Bliss
Poor cartoon thinking Dudley, he's such a liar he only believes lies, he can't even tell the difference between a lie or a mistake, perception from his misperception.

You have not one single instance where I have ever lied, you only have your own lies that ignore my explanations and present my words out of context.

WasteOfWater is a habitual liar and idiot, and you try to protect her because you share exactly the same traits.

So for probably for the 52nd time, free fall speed equals no resistance, no resistance equals explosives, explosives equal inside job because they were never checked for.

Plated steel equals what is commonly mistaken as melted steel in office fires, and fireman don't testify to it running down channel rails like a foundry.

The FLIR video was possibly a mistake by me, yet an honest mistake given all the other facts about 9/11 that point to explosives used at WTC to bring down the towers.

Theoretical science is different then experimental science or forensics.

p=mv is only relevant if outward explosive force was not clearly observed as the towers fell.

You are a liar who speaks in cartoon jibberish, because you are a smear merchant, and

Insults Are Easier

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#269436 Apr 24, 2014
"According to the seismic data there is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," ~ Arthur Lerner Lam , Asscociate Director, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University

Now you can ignore that, you can make believe it doesnt exsist, you can stick your head in the sand BUT those are the facts .... but then again ... IGNORANCE is YOUR BLISS
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor cartoon thinking Dudley, he's such a liar he only believes lies, he can't even tell the difference between a lie or a mistake, perception from his misperception.
You have not one single instance where I have ever lied, you only have your own lies that ignore my explanations and present my words out of context.
WasteOfWater is a habitual liar and idiot, and you try to protect her because you share exactly the same traits.
So for probably for the 52nd time, free fall speed equals no resistance, no resistance equals explosives, explosives equal inside job because they were never checked for.
Plated steel equals what is commonly mistaken as melted steel in office fires, and fireman don't testify to it running down channel rails like a foundry.
The FLIR video was possibly a mistake by me, yet an honest mistake given all the other facts about 9/11 that point to explosives used at WTC to bring down the towers.
Theoretical science is different then experimental science or forensics.
p=mv is only relevant if outward explosive force was not clearly observed as the towers fell.
You are a liar who speaks in cartoon jibberish, because you are a smear merchant, and
Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#269437 Apr 24, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>"According to the seismic data there is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," ~ Arthur Lerner Lam , Asscociate Director, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University

Now you can ignore that, you can make believe it doesnt exsist, you can stick your head in the sand BUT those are the facts .... but then again ... IGNORANCE is YOUR BLISS
Thats because themitic explosive force was not accounted for. They compared it only to a commercial controlled demolition, when what we saw at wtc was a military controlled destruction meant to shock the public into giving up their own constitutional rights.

Your ignorance is my bliss, catfish. And you are so unoriginal you can only copy somebody else's insults, loser.

Porkies wife is a fat hog, because

Insults Are Easier

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#269438 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean you processed all the evidence in the same opposite method in which you believe planes can turn at low speed the same as high speed? Then that explains you advocating the conspiracy before you switched and advocated the official one. You must be the only person in history dumb enough to work that way.
Bizarro chic, get a boyfriend!
Insults Are Easier
Nope. The internet is full of half-baked 9/11 conspiracy nonsense, none of which is based upon hard facts and evidence. I got taken in until I looked for the real facts and evidence. Are you making a proposition? LMAO

Since: Aug 11

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#269439 Apr 24, 2014
BTW, the plane hit the Pentagon.

End of story. Obviously those claiming it couldn't be done are ignorant of the facts.

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#269440 Apr 24, 2014
themitic explosive force was not accounted for ???? REALLY IGNORAMUS ????

But you idiots are always going on about the FDNY hearing explosions .... they were loud enough to be heard but not loud enough to be picked up on a seismograph !?!?!??!?!

Do you just make this shit up as you go along ?????
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats because themitic explosive force was not accounted for. They compared it only to a commercial controlled demolition, when what we saw at wtc was a military controlled destruction meant to shock the public into giving up their own constitutional rights.
Your ignorance is my bliss, catfish. And you are so unoriginal you can only copy somebody else's insults, loser.
Porkies wife is a fat hog, because
Insults Are Easier

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#269441 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats because themitic explosive force was not accounted for. They compared it only to a commercial controlled demolition, when what we saw at wtc was a military controlled destruction meant to shock the public into giving up their own constitutional rights.
Your ignorance is my bliss, catfish. And you are so unoriginal you can only copy somebody else's insults, loser.
Porkies wife is a fat hog, because
Insults Are Easier
Pure nonsense. High-rise demolition requires tons of steel plating and specialized skill. Besides, both the trade towers were constructed with the bulk of the structural load in the outer skin. Such a demolition is pure nonsense. It is a well established fact that the outer structural members failed due to deflection of the floor trusses. Your demolition fantasy is very funny. Thanks for the laughs.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#269442 Apr 24, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
themitic explosive force was not accounted for ???? REALLY IGNORAMUS ????
But you idiots are always going on about the FDNY hearing explosions .... they were loud enough to be heard but not loud enough to be picked up on a seismograph !?!?!??!?!
Do you just make this shit up as you go along ?????
<quoted text>
Indeed. He is a broken record of half-baked nonsense.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#269443 Apr 24, 2014
Observe the logic-less presence of WasteOfWater, she 'thinks' a plane can destroy a building by damaging a couple of floors, yet 'believes' it would take explosives to be placed in
all of the floors to destroy a building.

Why is that, WasteOfWater?

Is it because

Insults Are Easier
John the Revelator

Gallatin, TN

#269444 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Observe the logic-less presence of WasteOfWater,..
Forget about logic, IAE, these morons are in a world well beyond logic. Call it Fairy Dust Land, call it Brainwashed City, call it Just Plain Stupidville, but wherever it is, it is beyond our reach.

It's like trying to teach a cat about Jesus. The cat may nod its head. The cat may smile. The cat may snuggle up to the bottom of your leg while you're talking. The cat might even snarl at you a little.

But at the end of the conversation, the cat just goes right back to shitting in a box, licking its own ass, lying around like a bum all day, and utterly failing to repent of its numerous sins.

All you can really do to affect the Anti-Truthers ITT is apply massive head trauma every time they're stupid enough to reply to you directly. Then again, they've already been thumped so hard they don't even realize they're still in a thread right now, they think they're at the Hallmark Store looking for a Mother's Day card.

Their mothers are going to be very disappointed in a few weeks.(As if they weren't already)
Pegasus

Brooklyn, NY

#269445 Apr 24, 2014
Timeten wrote:
I just woke up from a 10 year coma and I even know 9/11 was an inisde job
Go take another nap for about 50 yrs then your childrens, children can fill your shoes.
Pegasus

Brooklyn, NY

#269446 Apr 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
I've enjoyed your transformation, Pegged, from semi-literate dingbat to foul-mouthed, off-topic, ad hominem spammer (a'la Charlie Sheen).
But I should probably point out that, among the innumerable "factoids" floating around haphazardly in your head is one in which you have me mixed up with some racist in some other argument you're losing. I'm not the Stormfront/Skindhead guy.
Also, "the cats ass" is not a saying.
Don't worry, Pegged, someday you'll fit in just fine - at that state-run old folks' home with the rest of the senile old farts.
If you want to disect posts start with yours above.....they are called Skinheads, not Skindheads.

Stick that in your crackpipe and smoke it professor.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#269447 Apr 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>Forget about logic, IAE, these morons are in a world well beyond logic. Call it Fairy Dust Land, call it Brainwashed City, call it Just Plain Stupidville, but wherever it is, it is beyond our reach.

It's like trying to teach a cat about Jesus. The cat may nod its head. The cat may smile. The cat may snuggle up to the bottom of your leg while you're talking. The cat might even snarl at you a little.

But at the end of the conversation, the cat just goes right back to shitting in a box, licking its own ass, lying around like a bum all day, and utterly failing to repent of its numerous sins.

All you can really do to affect the Anti-Truthers ITT is apply massive head trauma every time they're stupid enough to reply to you directly. Then again, they've already been thumped so hard they don't even realize they're still in a thread right now, they think they're at the Hallmark Store looking for a Mother's Day card.

Their mothers are going to be very disappointed in a few weeks.(As if they weren't already)
Very true John, and hilarious.

This person believes he doesn't even need to understand facts or debate, because to him the burden of proof lies only with those who criticize the official story - meaning to them the official story is reality. Yet reality should be easy to debate.

Reminds me of those Moonies who used to hand out flowers at the airport, if you tried to question their beliefs, they'd just stare blankly and hand you another flower. Too bad the TSA doesn't let his kind passed security anymore, this forum would be much more intellectual.
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>If you want to disect posts start with yours above.....they are called Skinheads, not Skindheads.

Stick that in your crackpipe and smoke it professor.
This dummy has never successfully used a comma, yet 'thinks' he's showing his intelligence by pointing out a typo.

He has no idea what this debate is about, he just saw people repeating insults on a forum and said 'me too!'

Grade school.

Insults Are Easier

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#269450 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Observe the logic-less presence of WasteOfWater, she 'thinks' a plane can destroy a building by damaging a couple of floors, yet 'believes' it would take explosives to be placed in
all of the floors to destroy a building.
Why is that, WasteOfWater?
Is it because
Insults Are Easier
You are illogical. A good sized and fuel set going in excess of 500mph does considerable damage to any ordinary building. What's more the fire and other structural damage is also considerable. The evidence shows exactly what happened too the towers. Why do you keep spending so much time making a complete ass of yourself?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#269451 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Very true John, and hilarious.
This person believes he doesn't even need to understand facts or debate, because to him the burden of proof lies only with those who criticize the official story - meaning to them the official story is reality. Yet reality should be easy to debate.
Reminds me of those Moonies who used to hand out flowers at the airport, if you tried to question their beliefs, they'd just stare blankly and hand you another flower. Too bad the TSA doesn't let his kind passed security anymore, this forum would be much more intellectual.
<quoted text>
This dummy has never successfully used a comma, yet 'thinks' he's showing his intelligence by pointing out a typo.
He has no idea what this debate is about, he just saw people repeating insults on a forum and said 'me too!'
Grade school.
Insults Are Easier
Total projection. You are the ones avoiding the facts in your 9/11 conspiracy cult.

Since: Aug 11

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#269452 Apr 24, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
If you actually said something other than general assertions with no supporting documentation, there would be something to rebut.
As it is you use a lot of words to say nothing of consequence and your only attempt to support your claims was self debunking.
Here's a rational response to your idiotic rants;
For those not prone to heavy drooling,
http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jC3JgWkNNIQXX
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911nutphy...
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eag...
http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm
http://www.jnani.org/mrking/writings/911/king...
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://11-settembre.blogspot.ca/2007/04/engli...
http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php...
http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2012/...
You've been debunked.
Exactly. There is some much conspiracy nonsense on the internet, factual links are harder to find.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#269453 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Poor cartoon thinking Dudley, he's such a liar he only believes lies, he can't even tell the difference between a lie or a mistake, perception from his misperception.
Oh moron, I can and have supported my accusations about you. All you have, as usual, is bare assertions.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>You have not one single instance where I have ever only have your own lies that ignore my explanations and present my words out of context.

WasteOfWater is a habitual liar and idiot, and you try to protect her because you share exactly the same traits.
I've repeatedly shown where you've lied, but twoof is a lie that can only be defended by lies so you're pretty much fked there.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>So for probably for the 52nd time, free fall speed equals no resistance, no resistance equals explosives, explosives equal inside job because they were never checked for.
I love when you pretend to understand science! It's just so bloody comical. If no resistance means explosives then why haven't any of your charlatan masters shown that to be factual using the many known cd's that exist out there? Well it's because you're a scientifically illiterate dolt who once again needs to lie for twoof. But that lie is too obvious. The reality is that free fall only means negligible resistance and the structural integrity of a system call be lost by failure of its constituent parts. Fire can and does cause steel to fail. Twoof causes you to fail.

And free fall speed is a point on an acceleration/time graph. Can you solve for "x" yet dummy?
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Plated steel equals what is commonly mistaken as melted steel in office fires, and fireman don't testify to it running down channel rails like a foundry.
Right. Can you post even one article to support that claim? No, that's why you've been lying ever since I called you on your idiocy.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>The FLIR video was possibly a mistake by me, yet an honest mistake given all the other facts about 9/11 that point to explosives used at WTC to bring down the towers.
It was text book non-observance and confirmation bias by you. With a side order of the Dunning Kruger effect thrown in for good measure. It's no different that you posting a killkkklown link and claiming he has found 250 smoking guns. Pure ignorance and lack of veracity on your part. Pure twoofer.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Theoretical science is different then experimental science or forensics.
You're such an idiot Ignorance. Experimental science is derived from theoretical science and physics is physics. Chemistry is chemistry. Astrophysics is astrophysics. Principals don't change according to premise moron.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>p=mv is only relevant if outward explosive force was not clearly observed as the towers fell.
I'll be saving that tid bit of dumb to whack you over the head with! If it has mass and velocity, it has momentum. There are no other requirements you scientifically illiterate fool. The upper portion of the towers had mass. Once gravity could overcome the the structural integrity of the remaining load bearing components, collapse ensued.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>You are a liar who speaks in cartoon jibberish, because you are a smear merchant, and
Twoof: a lie that can only be defended by telling more lies.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Ionsults Are Easier
[Your] Ignorance is [Obviously Your] Bliss!

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#269454 Apr 24, 2014
No, actually you have shown you can only debate through insult and convince others of low character to do the same.

You have never shown logic, which is why you believe the NIST circular logic of we didn't need to preserve evidence, because computers make forensics obsolete.

Your wife's a hog, because

Insults Are Easier

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#269455 Apr 24, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>Thats because themitic explosive force was not accounted for. They compared it only to a commercial controlled demolition, when what we saw at wtc was a military controlled destruction meant to shock the public into giving up their own constitutional rights.

Your ignorance is my bliss, catfish. And you are so unoriginal you can only copy somebody else's insults, loser.

Porkies wife is a fat hog, because

Insults Are Easier
Oh my!

"themitic explosive force"

Another keeper!

The "explosive force" of...an incendiary!!!

Do you have a clue what the differences are between explosives and incendiaries Ignorance is Bliss?

Good grief man-child, you should really learn that you opening you mouth only results your own humiliation!

Now if I asked you to support your claim there was thermite, you'd cite the Bentham paper. That paper, self debunking as it is, would debunked your idiocy on it own.

See you unobservant, inept twoofcultist, that paper cites a coating around 9 microns thick. The calculations were done by Frank Greening that show all that could have done is raise the steel temperature by 1C.

You've backed yourself into yet another corner that can only result in you telling more lies.

Oh my Ignorance! You ARE an entertaining kook!!

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