Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

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#268800 Apr 9, 2014
Here is what happened.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/specials/se...

Passenger manifest for flight 11 showing Mohamed Atta on the plane.

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/d...

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#268801 Apr 9, 2014
More evidence that Mohamed Atta was on flight 11.

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/images/chart/...

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#268802 Apr 9, 2014
At the gate With the cargo doors of Flight 11 closed, two final pieces of luggage arrive. Ramp workers decide not to delay the flight's departure for the bags marked "M. Atta." The luggage is held for the next flight to Los Angeles.- See more at: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/specials/se...

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#268803 Apr 9, 2014
At 8:19 a.m., flight attendant Betty Ong calls the American Airlines reservation office in Cary, N.C. She says, "The cockpit is not answering, somebody's stabbed in business class -- and I think there's Mace -- that we can't breathe -- I don't know, I think we're getting hijacked." Ong will remain on the line for approximately 25 minutes, offering key pieces of information such as the hijackers' original seating assignments.- See more at: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/specials/se...

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#268805 Apr 9, 2014
Ah poor WasteOfWater, she barely knows she's alive, much less anything else.

Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#268807 Apr 9, 2014
Did you stay up late writing that, catfish?

Hope not, because

Insults Are Easier
Pegasus

Hollywood, FL

#268808 Apr 10, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Ah poor WasteOfWater, she barely knows she's alive, much less anything else.
Insults Are Easier
Well looky here...Injury to the Cerebral Cortex/Ignorance is Bliss/Insults are Easy making a total ass of itself as Insults can't get a handle on something defined before it's eyes.

Insults/Ignorance/moron do you do anything.....anything but grind bunk for Twoof?
Pegasus

Hollywood, FL

#268809 Apr 10, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh is that your claim? Can you show it here?
Just because you say it's so don't make it true.
I can't prove much in this situation and neither can you and your wild speculation and conjecture doesn't go very far.
The question before us is can you prove he did? Fuhkstick !?!?!?!?!?
Uh Huh Eh !
LMAO......what's wrong there Zip Zorders are you becoming unglued?
Did WasteWater school you?

How can you freaking live with yourself knowing you are basically a human Pinata.....?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#268810 Apr 10, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
10 or 12 links huh? Then tell me, why would you criticize that other poster for posting links at all when you do exactly the same thing?
You are not stupid, right?
And of course you ignored the fact that I already stated that that post is meant to mock idiots who think posting a link wins the argument by default.

Your failed logic defines you Ignorance.

See dummy, I don't typically use links AS my argument, I use them to support my argument.

I know, you don't get it....that's partially what makes you ignorant and a twoofer.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember those links you posted about fires melting steel that you use to this day to claim I lied about reading them? The real story is not if I read them or not before I responded, which I didn't, the real story is not one if them was an office fire, and not one was similar to the WTC fire.
And....?

Now what was that idiotic canard all twoofers spew about jet fuel again Ignorance?

Oh ya, "jet fuel can't melt steel".

See low brow, at least a few of those links were address that exact canard and showing that fuels with a medium of similar energy density cause fires where reports of molten steel are made.

And lets also remember that office fires are typically hotter than house fires given the contents and increased amount of hydrocarbons in the form of plastics in office buildings.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
But to this day, you will claim I attempted to say plating steel with another type of metal lowers the melting point of the steel to avoid the fact that your own links are pure barf.
Its tough for you being an agent of dis-info and a smear merchant, isn't it Dudley DoWrong?
Which is why
Insults Are Easier
Your main problem Ignorance is the dunning kruger effect where you think you understand something yet it's extremely obvious you don't.

That leads you to state very dumb things which always come back to bite you in the azz and only serve to undermine what you're trying to support.

And you did claim that moron....I'll post a link tonight.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#268812 Apr 10, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>How many links do you have on the heavy drooling post you have been copying and spamming this forum for years?

Damn Dudley, you're stupid and your wife is ugly.

Insults Are Easier
Almost everything I say is based on knowledge with citations to support it.

It's the way arguments work in the real world...where as in twooferdumb, you make an idiotic claim then add a yourube video made by an equally inept moron and pretend you won the argument.

Oh and, oh the irony ignorance!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#268813 Apr 10, 2014
IAVA org wrote:
<quoted text>My links are factual and truthful to the best of my knowledge.

From what I can glean is the Bush administration did not even TRY to stop 9/11/01 attacks after many warnings from FBI, CIA, and many other governments worldwide.

Too be fair maybe nobody could have stopped it but the evidence is clear that Bush did nothing.

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I support your premise that Bush was a horrible president yet your link barf does not support your claim of foreknowledge of 911.
Therealnews com

New Brunswick, NJ

#268814 Apr 10, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
I support your premise that Bush was a horrible president yet your link barf does not support your claim of foreknowledge of 911.
Hypothetically speaking:

What if Porkpie Hat was POTUS and the FBI, CIA, the outgoing Clinton administration and many outside intelligence agencies all warned you of an al Qaeda attack more than 9 months before September 11, 2001?

I would have to bet even you Porkpie Hat would try to do something.

Bush and Cheney never even had one emergency meeting after 9 months of warnings.

Too me this is extreme dereliction of duty to protect and defend the USA.

Cheney and Rummy were preoccupied with invading Iraq, while Condi was teaching Dumbya the names of leaders of countries and where they were located.

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Some Iraq Analysts Felt Pressure From Cheney Visits
June 5, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/kjcxxys
Vice President Cheney and his most senior aide made multiple trips to the CIA over the past year to question analysts studying Iraq's weapons programs and alleged links to al Qaeda, creating an environment in which some analysts felt they were being pressured to make their assessments fit with the Bush administration's policy objectives, according to senior intelligence officials.
With Cheney taking the lead in the administration last August in advocating military action against Iraq by claiming it had weapons of mass destruction, the visits by the vice president and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, "sent signals, intended or otherwise, that a certain output was desired from here," one senior agency official said yesterday.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/CIA-brass-t...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268815 Apr 10, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Hearsay evidence is admitted, as long as the person you are talking about is dead? I would think it would go more like this
You might think but there are laws, so your thoughts on the matter are totally irreverent. One must look to the FRE.

RULES OF EVIDENCE
ARTICLE VIII. HEARSAY
Rule 804. Hearsay Exceptions; Declarant Unavailable

(a) Definition of unavailability. "Unavailability as a witness" includes situations in which the declarant -

(4) is unable to be present or to testify at the hearing because of death or then existing physical or mental illness or infirmity; or

PS: And your internet definition of hearsay is also totally wrong from a legal perspective.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268816 Apr 10, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
I'm from Ohio?
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Q: What is "hearsay" evidence, and why is it usually not accepted?
A: One type of evidence that usually is not allowed by the rules of evidence is "hearsay." Hearsay is what might be called "second-hand" evidence. It usually involves a witness testifying not about what he or she personally saw or heard, but to establish as a fact something someone else told the witness. Hearsay evidence is generally not admissible because it may place crucial evidence before the court without allowing the other side to confront the person who is being quoted to challenge the accuracy of the statement or the credibility of the person who made it.
Try FRE 801 Not leagaese for fry cooks (who uses 801 but pretends the exceptions 803 and 804 don't exist.)
Pegasus

Hollywood, FL

#268817 Apr 10, 2014
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Hypothetically speaking:
What if Porkpie Hat was POTUS and the FBI, CIA, the outgoing Clinton administration and many outside intelligence agencies all warned you of an al Qaeda attack more than 9 months before September 11, 2001?
I would have to bet even you Porkpie Hat would try to do something.
Bush and Cheney never even had one emergency meeting after 9 months of warnings.
Too me this is extreme dereliction of duty to protect and defend the USA.
Cheney and Rummy were preoccupied with invading Iraq, while Condi was teaching Dumbya the names of leaders of countries and where they were located.
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Some Iraq Analysts Felt Pressure From Cheney Visits
June 5, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/kjcxxys
Vice President Cheney and his most senior aide made multiple trips to the CIA over the past year to question analysts studying Iraq's weapons programs and alleged links to al Qaeda, creating an environment in which some analysts felt they were being pressured to make their assessments fit with the Bush administration's policy objectives, according to senior intelligence officials.
With Cheney taking the lead in the administration last August in advocating military action against Iraq by claiming it had weapons of mass destruction, the visits by the vice president and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, "sent signals, intended or otherwise, that a certain output was desired from here," one senior agency official said yesterday.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/CIA-brass-t...
Act on what ?
A very simple plan to hijack aircraft when the terrorists knew before hand of inadequate security and the religion driven ability to simply exploit weak security .
Remember once the plan is underway there is no point of no return and to me they had just enough involved to shake up the norm but not so many involved to blow there own cover.

They specifically chose the eastern seaboard for its soft targets and a shared time zone.

A simple plan.
Think, the more intricate your plot the more likely it will be discovered or flat out fall apart.

If CIA, FBI, FAA, Immigration and so forth were'nt bumping heads, failing to share information and jockeying for position 911 would not have occured.
Therealnews com

New Brunswick, NJ

#268818 Apr 10, 2014
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>
Act on what ?
A very simple plan to hijack aircraft when the terrorists knew before hand of inadequate security and the religion driven ability to simply exploit weak security .
Remember once the plan is underway there is no point of no return and to me they had just enough involved to shake up the norm but not so many involved to blow there own cover.
They specifically chose the eastern seaboard for its soft targets and a shared time zone.
A simple plan.
Think, the more intricate your plot the more likely it will be discovered or flat out fall apart.
If CIA, FBI, FAA, Immigration and so forth were'nt bumping heads, failing to share information and jockeying for position 911 would not have occured.
All the Dummy Bush had to do was pick up a phone to alert the airports for young middle eastern men.

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Coleen Rowley's Memo to FBI Director Robert Mueller
An edited version of the agent's 13-page letter
May 21, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/avdrjah
FBI Director Robert Mueller
FBI Headquarters Washington, D.C.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_whistleblower1.h...

Many Countries Warned USA Summer 2001
Clues Alerted White House to Potential Attacks
http://tinyurl.com/2gqkl / May 17, 2002
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00....

MI6 gave US two years' warning of bin Laden's flying bomb plot
June 10 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/9gzfhd
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/09/102...


Ashcroft Flying High
WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/9s52o
ASHCROFT WAS WARNED BY THE FBI NOT TO FLY ON COMMERCIAL AIRLINES.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/nat...

TRACES OF TERROR: THE INTELLIGENCE REPORTS; EGYPT WARNED U.S. OF A QAEDA PLOT, MUBARAK ASSERTS
June 4, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/8cd8ng
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...

BUSH WAS WARNED BIN LADEN WANTED TO HIJACK PLANES
May 16, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/9p8t36
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/16/us/bush-was...

U.S. Ignored Warnings From French
May 28th 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/7fq89f
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-05-28/news/u...

Heads-Up To Ashcroft Proves Threat Was Known Before 9/11
June 3, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/kvxha8z
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Heads-...

Proof Bush Is Guilty For September 11, 2001
http://tinyurl.com/kpxqlgc
On July 10, 2001, Phoenix FBI agent Kenneth Williams sent a warning memo to FBI headquarters warning that middle eastern fundamentalist men were learning how to fly airplanes. Not learning how to take-off, and not learning how to land.

July 20, 2001 FBI warned Bush about planes being used as weapons in Genoa Italy G8 Summit.

On July 26, 2001, CBS News http://tinyurl.com/9s52o reported that John Ashcroft was warned by the FBI not to fly on commercial airlines.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/nat...

On August 6, 2001, Ignorant "Iraqi Oil" Bush was warned by the CIA: Usama bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States.

On August 17, 2001, Minneapolis FBI agent Coleen Rowley sent a blistering 13 page letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller warning him the French Intelligence Service confirmed that Zacarias Moussaoui has affiliations with Usama bin Laden and connections with al Qaeda terrorists.

FBI agent Rowley also warned Director Mueller that Zacarias Moussaui took flying lessons in Oklahoma. Not learning how to take-off, and not learning how to land. Just learning how to fly. All Americans should impeach Bush for not protecting America on September 11, 2001.
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/2...

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#268819 Apr 10, 2014
I'm sure intelligence agencies get hundreds of threats a day and have a big job accessing which are credible and which are not ….. where the government dropped the ball was when al Qaeda declared war on the US in 97, we should have gone after them, destroyed their training camps and killed off their leadership
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Hypothetically speaking:
What if Porkpie Hat was POTUS and the FBI, CIA, the outgoing Clinton administration and many outside intelligence agencies all warned you of an al Qaeda attack more than 9 months before September 11, 2001?
I would have to bet even you Porkpie Hat would try to do something.
Bush and Cheney never even had one emergency meeting after 9 months of warnings.
Too me this is extreme dereliction of duty to protect and defend the USA.
Cheney and Rummy were preoccupied with invading Iraq, while Condi was teaching Dumbya the names of leaders of countries and where they were located.
==========
Some Iraq Analysts Felt Pressure From Cheney Visits
June 5, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/kjcxxys
Vice President Cheney and his most senior aide made multiple trips to the CIA over the past year to question analysts studying Iraq's weapons programs and alleged links to al Qaeda, creating an environment in which some analysts felt they were being pressured to make their assessments fit with the Bush administration's policy objectives, according to senior intelligence officials.
With Cheney taking the lead in the administration last August in advocating military action against Iraq by claiming it had weapons of mass destruction, the visits by the vice president and his chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, "sent signals, intended or otherwise, that a certain output was desired from here," one senior agency official said yesterday.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/CIA-brass-t...
Therealnews com

New Brunswick, NJ

#268822 Apr 10, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
I'm sure intelligence agencies get hundreds of threats a day and have a big job accessing which are credible and which are not ….. where the government dropped the ball was when al Qaeda declared war on the US in 97, we should have gone after them, destroyed their training camps and killed off their leadership
<quoted text>
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld dropped the ball not our CIA, not our FBI, and not other intelligence agencies warning Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.

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9/11 panel distrusted Pentagon testimony
Commissioners considered criminal probe of false statements
August 2, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/z7tz5
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/02/9-11pa...

FBI Knew Terrorists Were Using Flight Schools
September 23, 2001 / http://tinyurl.com/kzdbrxv
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_K...

9/11 Report Cites Many Warnings About Hijackings
February 10, 2005 / http://tinyurl.com/mxzlm6v
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/politics/10...

An Incomplete Investigation
Why did the 9/11 Commission ignore "Able Danger"?
by FBI Director LOUIS FREEH / November 17, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/lehngqj /
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/media-hit/an-i...

F.A.A. Alerted on Qaeda in '98, 9/11 Panel Said
http://tinyurl.com/q5nzr / September 14, 2005
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/politics/14...

9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon
Allegations Brought to Inspectors General
http://tinyurl.com/j8pbe / August 2, 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Pickard 9/11 commission statement
Former acting FBI director's remarks,
as prepared for delivery to the 9/11 panel
4/13/2004 / http://tinyurl.com/kbsawns
I am here today at your invitation to answer your questions as directly as I am able based on what I can recall. Clearly, nothing I can say will ease the suffering of those who lost friends and loved ones on September 11th nor can I ease the torment for all who witnessed the horrific events of that day. Among the 3,000 who lost their lives that day were New York FBI agent Lenny Hatton and recently retired FBI agent John O'Neill, both of whom died trying to help the victims. Because of all these tragic losses, I hope that I can contribute in some small way to helping America understand how this happened and what needs to be done better to protect us in the future.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4733062/ns/us_news-...

Tenth public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States / April 13, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/msrr8nh
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/hearings/h...

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#268823 Apr 10, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>You might think but there are laws, so your thoughts on the matter are totally irreverent. One must look to the FRE.

RULES OF EVIDENCE
ARTICLE VIII. HEARSAY
Rule 804. Hearsay Exceptions; Declarant Unavailable

(a) Definition of unavailability. "Unavailability as a witness" includes situations in which the declarant -

(4) is unable to be present or to testify at the hearing because of death or then existing physical or mental illness or infirmity; or

PS: And your internet definition of hearsay is also totally wrong from a legal perspective.
You're right, Ohio is s much better state.

I get my Podunk states confused, sorry.

Lets get away from your barfed up copy/paste wars and speak logically. Riddle me this, methy, how would Atta's father know his son boarded an aircraft in America, from his home in a foreign land?

PS: We aren't writing letters to each other, so PS's are totally unnecessary, methy.

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268824 Apr 10, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets get away from your barfed up copy/paste wars and speak logically.
You claimed it was inadmissible and what you call "barfed up copy/paste" is the law of the hearsay exception rules. specifically Federal Rules of Evidence 803 and 804.
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Riddle me this, methy, how would Atta's father know his son boarded an aircraft in America, from his home in a foreign land?
Does not matter, that has nothing to do with the hearsay rule or exceptions, it is a question for the jury when they weigh the evidence.

SO changing the subject FRYCOOK, you claimed IT WAS NOT ADMISSIBLE, YOU WERE WRONG.

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