Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268594 Apr 8, 2014
who wrote:
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Fact remains that your entire defence infrastructure failed, mostly to do with confusion regarding the drills taking place that day to do with hijacked aircraft.
8:21 a.m.
American Airlines Flight 11's transponder signal is turned off but the plane remains on radar screens.

8:25 a.m.
In accordance with federal aviation protocol, Boston Center traffic control managers started notifying their chain of command that American 11 had been hijacked.

THE 9 MINUTE STANDDOWN?

8:37 a.m.
The Northeast American Defense Sector (NEADS) of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) is notified of the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11 by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Boston Center Control. The controller requests military help to intercept the aircraft.

8:46 a.m.
F-15 fighter jets are dispatched from Otis Air Force Base in Mass., but because Flight 11's transponder is off, Air Force pilots do not know which direction to travel to meet the plane. NEADS personnel spend the next several minutes watching their radar scopes waiting for Flight 11 to reappear.
who

Reading, UK

#268595 Apr 8, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
ABSOLUTELY NOT ....... as soon as people realized there was a real world hijacking ALL the exercise were canceled …. Of course you realize that having exercises meant everybody was at their battle station .... You want links just check out the Wiki pages
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Wikipedia?
Oh ok.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268596 Apr 8, 2014
who wrote:
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Yes he did that but the fact remains that everything failed that day, and no one was reprimanded.
19 muppets with box cutter vs your entire your multi billion dollar defence and security apparatus.
Maybe I'm wrong about 911 and your security personnel are just incompetent idiots.
Actually we were still in a cold war model looking out, never expecting an air attack to originate from inside the US. Pre 9-11 do explain why the above is "incompetence".

That's not failure, especially since it was unprecedented, before 9-11 commercial airliners were never used as weapons, anywhere.
onemale

Charleston, IL

#268597 Apr 8, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Any reason that interception times should have been faster on 9-11 then NORADs record over North America?
And do you intercept everything?
A reasonable approach is to extrapolate from the “likely takeover time”(the earliest time anyone would have known about the hijacking) until the point each plane reached its final target. Which gives us the following elapsed times: Flight 11 (8:14 to 8:47 - 33 minutes), Flight 175 (8:42 to 9:04 - 22 minutes), Flight 77 (8:51 to 9:38 - 47 minutes), Flight 93 (9:27 to 10:04 - 37 minutes). See http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Repor...
(Note that some will disagree with these times, in part because we’ve taken them from the 9/11 Commission Report. 911Research, for instance, say that Flight 77 went off course at 8:46 and so it could be argued that we should start the clock then. Look at the full facts and we’re being generous, though: the time we’re using corresponds with the last reported contact with the Flight 77 pilots, and the first suspect action after that, an unauthorised turn south, wasn’t noted until 8:54. It could just as well be argued that this is the first notification of a problem, meaning our timings provide 3 minutes more intercept time than was actually available).
In the Stewart case, as we’ve seen, there was a 10 minute gap between the initial problem being observed (ATC getting no radio response) and a decision being made that contact was lost. An intercept didn’t begin for another 24 minutes, and if planes were scrambled from the ground then that could have taken longer: fighters are typically on 15 minute alert, but we’ll be generous and say it took 5.
If this were repeated on 9/11, then that’s 39 minutes, plus the time it takes the plane to reach the target, before an intercept can occur. Which suggests there wasn’t enough time to reach Flight 11 and 175 before they hit the towers, and even intercepting Flight 77 would have been very difficult. The Stewart case simply doesn’t support the idea that the 9/11 flights should have been intercepted, then: in fact, quite the opposite.
But they had 90 minutes for the Pentagon???
And there were two airfields just few minutes away, so why were the fighter jets sent the opposite direction???

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“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#268598 Apr 8, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Stand down order eh?

So since the twoof cultists keep making this claim and it's made based on Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 commission, then how do they explain the disconnect?

Oh right, they don't need to since twoofers never verify anything they regurgitate.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
Anti-truth: Twoofer's base their entire belief of a stand-down on one mans testimony.

Truth: People base their stand-down theory on a plethora of factual circumstances, you Hobbit.

This is how fanatics who push a fanatical belief system operate, they misrepresent a position so they can create a dishonest argument against it.

This is why

Insults Are Easier
who

Reading, UK

#268599 Apr 8, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Actually we were still in a cold war model looking out, never expecting an air attack to originate from inside the US. Pre 9-11 do explain why the above is "incompetence".
That's not failure, especially since it was unprecedented, before 9-11 commercial airliners were never used as weapons, anywhere.
Well look Charles, the official story is just silly.
We are led to believe that 19 muppets with box cutters successfully evaded a multi billion dollar defence establishment including NORAD, standard FAA intercept procedures, US airbases, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, international intelligence agencies and more, without any significant or effective resistance.
Put that together with all the other holes in the official account and you can understand why I might be a tad sceptical.
but you go ahead and believe what you like....Can't say I really care.
onemale

Charleston, IL

#268600 Apr 8, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Actually we were still in a cold war model looking out, never expecting an air attack to originate from inside the US. Pre 9-11 do explain why the above is "incompetence".
That's not failure, especially since it was unprecedented, before 9-11 commercial airliners were never used as weapons, anywhere.
But NORAD had been training for that exact scenario, on and months before 9-11
onemale

Charleston, IL

#268601 Apr 8, 2014
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Anti-truth: Twoofer's base their entire belief of a stand-down on one mans testimony.
Truth: People base their stand-down theory on a plethora of factual circumstances, you Hobbit.
This is how fanatics who push a fanatical belief system operate, they misrepresent a position so they can create a dishonest argument against it.
This is why
Insults Are Easier
As always... I enjoy your Brilliant posts
You simply say it as it is.
who

Reading, UK

#268602 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
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But NORAD had been training for that exact scenario, on and months before 9-11
Good point.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268603 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
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But they had 90 minutes for the Pentagon???
And there were two airfields just few minutes away, so why were the fighter jets sent the opposite direction???
.
You sure mother diddler and where are those pix's!

At 08:54, the plane began to deviate from its normal, assigned flight path and turned south.[20] The hijackers set the flight's autopilot heading for Washington, D.C.[26] By 08:56, the flight was turned around, and the transponder had been disabled.

9:24: The FAA notifies NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector about the suspected hijacking of Flight 77. The FAA and NORAD establish an open line to discuss Flight 77, and shortly thereafter Flight 93.

9:35: Based on a report that Flight 77 had turned again and was circling back toward the District of Columbia, the Secret Service orders the immediate evacuation of the Vice President from the White House.

9:37:46: Flight 77 crashes into the western side of the Pentagon at 530 mph (853 km/h, 237 m/s, or 460 knots) and starts a violent fire. The section of the Pentagon hit consists mainly of newly renovated, unoccupied offices. All 64 people on board are killed, as are 125 Pentagon personnel.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#268604 Apr 8, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>ABSOLUTELY NOT ....... as soon as people realized there was a real world hijacking ALL the exercise were canceled …. Of course you realize that having exercises meant everybody was at their battle station .... You want links just check out the Wiki pages
Sure Catfish, the drills did not confuse and slow down the ability of people to respond to the real world event, they actually enhanced their response time.

Those planes were not scattered across the country running drills unarmed, they were actually 'manning their battle-stations'.

Coffee is for logic, catfish, so you can have milk, little kid.

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268605 Apr 8, 2014
who wrote:
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standard FAA intercept procedures
The FAA does not intercept, but the question stands, Why would NORAD break their intercept record on 9-11.
onemale

Charleston, IL

#268606 Apr 8, 2014
who wrote:
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Yes he did that but the fact remains that everything failed that day, and no one was reprimanded.
19 muppets with box cutter vs your entire your multi billion dollar defence and security apparatus.
Maybe I'm wrong about 911 and your security personnel are just incompetent idiots.
No reprimands for the worse failure in US history.
How did they so easily find and shoot down Iraqi jets in the Persian Gulf War???
Did the Iraqi jets have transponders so we could identify them???
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268607 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
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As always... I enjoy your Brilliant posts
You simply say it as it is.
Yea Bu then you say the same about mother banging posts.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#268608 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>As always... I enjoy your Brilliant posts
You simply say it as it is.
Thanks, onemale.

Insults Are Easier
onemale

Charleston, IL

#268609 Apr 8, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
This forum has disintegrated into a clusterfuhk of stupid human knuckle draggers all talking at once, asking questions no one answers, throwing cuts and insults, calling everyone the vilest names imaginable etc.
All Is Lost.
Better to go back to praying to Buddha
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Uh Huh Eh !
I always like the way you say it, as it is... that really annoys the bwunkers.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268610 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
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But NORAD had been training for that exact scenario, on and months before 9-11
False, LINK!
onemale

Charleston, IL

#268611 Apr 8, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Yea Bu then you say the same about mother banging posts.
Thanks Charlie boy, it gives me great personal satisfaction to know you are giving up.
You cannot answer the tough questions... as you are getting your ass handed to ya.
Oh yes as always, talk about mommy banging, because you really suck at talking about 9/11
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268613 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
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No reprimands for the worse failure in US history.
How did they so easily find and shoot down Iraqi jets in the Persian Gulf War???
FOF Idents.

Way over your head, once again mother banger, why should NORAD have broken their all time intercept record over North America on 9-11. AND THAT ONE WAS WITH A WORKING TRANSPONDER!

You may reference the WWF or you mother in the response.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#268614 Apr 8, 2014
onemale wrote:
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I always like the way you say it, as it is... that really annoys the bwunkers.
Are you hitting on him, are you going for the best you ever had or second best?
onemale wrote:
I consider myself as straight, but let a guy give me a bj and it was the best I ever had. It was a one time thing, he just wanted to know what it was like. No, I did NOT return the favor.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/sex/T7HGJ9UHL...

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