Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#267440 Mar 23, 2014
AussieBobby wrote:
What the No-Plane Theories Imply
1:That the 140-foot wide damage to the Pentagon, including a 96-foot-wide puncture, were somehow produced by a means other than a plane.
2;That fires smelling of burning jet fuel, were produced by some other means, or the photographs were faked.
3;That the aircraft debris, some clearly from an AA Boeing 757, was planted.
4;That the swath of downed lamp-poles matching a 757's wing span were sliced and knocked over by some other means.
5;That smashed objects in the paths of the engines were damaged by some other means.
6;That scores of eyewitness reports of a jetliner were faked, coerced, or coincidentally mistaken.
7;That the identification of Flight77's victims was fraudulent.
8;That Flight 77 and all on board were disposed of at some unknown location.
To believe that the Pentagon was not hit by Flight 77 requires accepting points 7 and 8.
To believe that the Pentagon was not hit by a jetliner requires accepting points 3 through 8.
To believe that no plane hit the Pentagon, one has to accept all 8 points.
Do you not believe in 100 s of "Similar fantastic Assumptions" when you say that 9/11 was done single handed by Al Qaeda, without any help or support from ground!!

Why not accept these 8 points? They are much less in numbers!!

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#267441 Mar 24, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you not believe in 100 s of "Similar fantastic Assumptions" when you say that 9/11 was done single handed by Al Qaeda, without any help or support from ground!!
When did I say that.

Of course they had support from ground,your standing on its hot desert sands now.
MUQ1 wrote:
Why not accept these 8 points? They are much less in numbers!!
To accept the 8 point involves hundreds/thousand of co conspirators without one single leak.Bill Clinton couldn't even get oral sex with out get caught,and there was only one co conspirator.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#267442 Mar 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>Actually it's not 4th-hand information, you are correct. It's 4th-hand HEARSAY. I got the hearsay from you. You got the hearsay from a news source. The news source got the hearsay from bin Laden's step-cousin or whatever he was. And bin Laden got the information from, well, if we're being totally honest here (which is how I prefer it), most likely his CIA contact.

Your "witness" did not witness...anything. And even if he had, there would still be no reason whatsoever to classify his testimony as any more reliable than that of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, or CBS News for that matter.

Gee, P.H., your standard for "evidence" suddenly drops through the floor when it appears to be in favor of the fairy-tale version of 9/11, doesn't it?

Porkpie Hat wrote, "Oh and dip shit, Canada is not in the US."

You're from Canada? Dear God, blind patriotism I can almost understand, but you really must be the world's biggest dipshit if you're spending your days defending one of the shoddiest cover-ups in planetary history for no better reason than that you actually believe it.

You are summarily dismissed, with prejudice.
Fallacies and whining...when will a twoofer wander in with something of value?

Oh right, never since twoof is just a lie defended by more lies all told by liars just like you.

Btw, where does all your information originate from?

Oh right, the exact same sources but yours is just run through a paranoid idiocy filter before you spew it.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#267443 Mar 24, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>Dear John

There's something you need to understand. pigboy is a half citizen of Canada and half citizen of the US. He spends his days defending one of the shoddiest govie political cover-ups in planetary history for no other reason than because his wife was visiting friends in NY on 9/11 and for some hours he could not contact miss piggy because of all the ruckus what with the buildings falling down because of gravity and office furnishing fires.

Keep on trying to dialogue with him. I hope you can get somewhere, but you will soon be the brunt of his ridicule and his favorite thing , third grade name-calling.

Good luck with your efforts.

Uh Huh Eh !
Oh elevator boy-sheep-DNA 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

You're not only one if the most irony ridden morons here, you still can't get get even basic information right!

Now tell us the one about the >20' entry hole in the Pentagon and explain why every thing you've ever mindlessly regurgitated has been proven dead wrong.

Good luck with that!

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#267444 Mar 24, 2014
You should stick those bumper stickers across your forehead IMBICLE !!!
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
In your mind perhaps.
I have posted many times my position is I do not know exactly how 9/11 happened. But I do know that the govie fairy tale of the event is a flat out lie. Govies lie all the time. Deception is a very effective tool of the military.
The evidence for total deception on 9/11 is clear and factual.
To cite only one example, deception kept the Germans looking and massing troops at the wrong place on DDay. Many people knew about the plan and it was effectively hidden from the Axis till it was all over.
Question Authority. Dare To Think For Yourself. Nice bumper stickers Eh !
Uh Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267445 Mar 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
WW, I can't believe you just posted a bunch of photos that could just as easily been taken at Chuck E. Cheese or Dick Cheney's garage as the Pentagon.
Again - THERE ARE NO PHOTOS THAT SHOW AIRPLANE DEBRIS OR HUMAN REMAINS AT THE PENTAGON.
Other than those posted ONEMALE!
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267446 Mar 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
O...M...G
A BLACK & WHITE photograph?
I didn't even know they existed anymore..
Yea, They exist, pick up a small town newspaper, once you can accept the existence of grayscalling you may move along to more complex subjects like 9-11.
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267447 Mar 24, 2014
onemale wrote:
Furthermore Waste of Water...
How do you even know the photos were even taken at the Pentagon???
Prove they are not daddy diddler.
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267449 Mar 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
, one can practically wallow in cake. I'm literally covered in tasty frosting as we speak. I'm rubbing it on my nipples.
Onemale, are you expecting your son over?
onemale wrote:
I consider myself as straight, but let a guy give me a bj and it was the best I ever had. It was a one time thing, he just wanted to know what it was like. No, I did NOT return the favor.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/sex/T7HGJ9UHL...

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#267450 Mar 24, 2014
Here is my favorite picture of the D-Day landings .... where are the Germans, where is all the fighting, where are all the Allied causalities !!?!?!??!?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
John the Revelator wrote:
Here's a link to MY favorite photo of the post-attack Pentagon - with this one you can zoom right in there and view the non-wreckage, the non-wing-marks, the non-bodies, and the non-767.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
"Hello internet, goodbye evidence locker," said the photograph.
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267451 Mar 24, 2014
-Web wrote:
"This crash was different. There was no wreckage, no bodies, and no noise."
Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller
The FBI has mandated DNA testing to confirm the identities of remains, a process just beginning that Miller said could take four to six months. But using mostly dental records, Miller and staff have identified remains of 12 passengers -- a number that the coroner said might grow with last weekend's recovery of additional remains.

Remains, like the aircraft wreckage itself, were scattered when the jet hit the ground at as much as 575 mph, then exploded in a fireball of fuel.

With those of 12 people identified, Miller and his team have identified the remains of 27 percent of the people on the plane, more than the 20 percent match he said that experts predicted at the outset.

http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/2001100...
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267452 Mar 24, 2014
onemale wrote:
If Charlie boy is really an attorney making 3 figures per hour as he claims... why is he losing hundreds of dollars a day on here???
That's why I have employees, it's easy to work on a brief and call someone a daddy diddler in the background.
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267453 Mar 24, 2014
And as always the real motivation appears,

Onemale hates the Jews Save some time and just say "I am a crazy daddy diddler, where is my son?"
onemale wrote:
Larry Silverstein is a Masonic (B'nai Brith) Fabian Socialist Labour Zionist = Pope Serving "Jew" and a CFR Member which is controlled by The Archbischop of NY from St Patricks Cathedral just as the Knight of Malta CIA is, Israel was founded in 1947 by secretly Jesuit created Scottish Rite (supreme council of the 33rd) Freemasonry , Winston Churchill , Josef Stalin , Harry Truman , David Ben Gurion , Chaim Weissman all 33rd degree Freemasons , Knight of Malta James Jesus Angelton and Edmond and Lord de Rothschild .The Knights of Malta are a Vatican Crusader Knighthood that was founded in 1046 in Jerusalem) The Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre is the most important Vatican knighthood and is located in Jerusalem.
Mossad is created by (Papal Court Jew 33rd degree mason David Ben Gurion) the CIA and The CIA is founded by Knight of Malta W.Casey who also founded OSS.
Jesuit , 33rd degree and Bisschop Avery Dulles was the most powerful Jesuit of the USA (then) he controlled Cardinal Edward Egan together with USA Jesuit provincial leader Thomas Smolich.(Read Vatican Assassins III from Eric Jon Phelps because it really reveals who is really behind 911)
Larry Silverstein made 4,5 Billion $ from 911
I will say this , i really tried to make anyone who has seen this video and read the descripition box , conscious about who really controls the US governement , but i have the feeling no one is doing anything with the information given , which will lead to big problems ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7OE3Adu4l0gXX
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267454 Mar 24, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Since the firm I bought the gold from is no longer there, the name of it was Midland Rare Coin Exchange. You're an attorney, I distrust you with too personal information.
In other words you are lying about your investments, next time you lie, at least make your return economically significant.
Charlie Sheen

Waxhaw, NC

#267455 Mar 24, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
I know how the legal system works... it is corrupt... you're only as good as the amount of re-election campaign contributions you pay to the judge. This is both corruption and bribery... and you are a part of this.
LMFAO! Not only are the limits on contributions by attorneys miniscule you missed the obvious, how would that influence a jury?

You don't know much about anything other than daddy diddling do you.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#267459 Mar 24, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
Someone posted earlier about a concept called "The Gullible Mind," and I enjoyed that post. There's a lot of truth there.

But more than gullibility, those who genuinely swallow the government fairy tale about 9/11 suffer from mere stupidity.

I remember when I was a kid, there were IQ tests. These tests didn't measure knowledge, or skill-sets, they measured mental capacity. Most of the questions were puzzles. The most difficult questions were puzzles which required you to define the relationship between large numbers of seemingly unrelated objects, numbers, or pieces of information.

The real question always added up to, "How much accurate data can you hold in the forefront of thought at the same time?"

I'm 100% certain that if you take a sampling of Anti-Truthers and compare it to a sampling of Truthers, you'll find that the Anti-Truthers fall well on the low end of the IQ scale, and vice versa.

Anti-Truthers simply can't put all this information together in their heads, whereas Truthers find it almost impossible to understand how anyone CAN'T grasp it.

The Anti-Truthers who don't suffer from a low IQ (few and far between), suffer from something far worse - intellectual cowardice. The obvious conclusion scares them, and so they not only shy away from it, they are actually compelled to argue the opposite side of the debate, merely to continuously reassure themselves that all is well with the world; that there's no need for them to lay awake at night wondering how the planet got taken hostage by amoral, warmongering, political opportunists.

It's interesting to have the conversation with them, and it needs to be done, if for no other reason than to keep the dialogue alive until a real investigation can be forced against the will of the perpetrators and the sheepish masses (20-30 years from now is my guess).

But the conversation always degenerates into the same abyssal swirl - Truthers making common sense arguments, and Anti-Truthers name-calling, mocking the "conspiracy theorists" for actually believing that sometimes powerful people really do get together and plan some evil shit, and demanding evidence that they know has been hidden away by the government.

Nonetheless, Anti-Truthers, if you care to go asshat-to-asshat with someone who knows how to out-crawl you to the end of the mud-pit, I am still available as a concrete wall for you to beat your head against.

I notice that most of you are at least smart enough to stop responding to me directly. Maybe it really is possible to penetrate your thick skulls with some real knowledge, who knows.
Nice word salad.

Too bad much of the information we know about 911 comes from sources other than da ebil US gub'ment.

You may now return to believing everything you read on conspirastupid websites....in other words, oh the sweet, sweet irony!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#267460 Mar 24, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>" Maybe it really is possible to penetrate your thick skulls with some real knowledge, who knows."

John you are spot on with this post but (I think) you are very wrong on this last point. The anti-truthers (debwunkers) at least the ones on this little obscure forum are quite incapable of grasping the importance of any new information or questions.

Their little minds are made up and anything posted here only slightly different than what they think is always met with outright dismissal, third grade ridicule and name calling. Some of them are even employed to post dis-info on this forum.

I am fond of certain quotes from famous men and this comes to mind.

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them beforehand; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if in his mind he is firmly persuaded that he already knows, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.”
Leo Tolstoy

Again, great post about the "Gullible Mind".

Uh Huh Eh !
Which is quite funny given all the crap you've mindlessly accepted even though a modicum of casual verification proves it wrong.

Like sealed elevator shafts, stand down orders, 6 second collapse times, >20' entry hole in the Pentagon and a host of others.

And of course you can do nothing to bolster your inane opinion by applying real world examples as fact as I have just done.

Oh elevator boy-sheep-DNA 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

You do mindless stupidity so well!!!

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#267461 Mar 24, 2014
Hey MORON,It would take me all of about 5 minuets to prove to a jury that Flightt 77 crashed at the Pentagon

You go back to your delusional out of touch with reality stupidity we really dont want to hear it

Hey lets see if you can do some math bozo, I bought 1500 shares of Telsa at $68 ... it's trading now at $214 a share ..... how much money did I make Dumb Ass
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually you are a naive self involved Wall Street suit that can't spell a seven letter word right. Stick them on your Tesla imbecile. And this time you can't just explain it away as a thumb typo.
Can you find the Boeing? I thought not. That's cause it ain't there dummkopf.
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Uh Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#267462 Mar 24, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Never mind trying to find the missing seven wheels.(Which you can't)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Show any significant part of the plane, identified by serial number to the maintenance records ostensibly belonging to that particular plane.

I triple dog dare ya little loud mouthed bwunkers.

Uh Huh Eh !
Can you cite something other than your own blather to show anything is "missing"?

Of course you can't, you're so dumb you actually think there's a legal requirement to publish pictures of all wheels in the case of crashed jets to prove it crashed...all on the web just to prove to idiots like you who believe nothing aside from what charlatans tell him.

Of course you also ignore the FDR, DNA and the wreckage there are pics of on the web....

Oh elevator boy-sheep-DNA-gullible mind 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS, now tell us the one about how jets can't cause fire balls because when you were knee high to a grassy knoll you threw a match into a bucket of gas and it didn't light on fire!

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#267463 Mar 24, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
The FBI has mandated DNA testing to confirm the identities of remains, a process just beginning that Miller said could take four to six months. But using mostly dental records, Miller and staff have identified remains of 12 passengers -- a number that the coroner said might grow with last weekend's recovery of additional remains.
Remains, like the aircraft wreckage itself, were scattered when the jet hit the ground at as much as 575 mph, then exploded in a fireball of fuel.
With those of 12 people identified, Miller and his team have identified the remains of 27 percent of the people on the plane, more than the 20 percent match he said that experts predicted at the outset.
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/2001100...
An excerpt from Charlies link
Over the weekend, about 300 volunteers combed a half-mile square around the crash site and found enough debris from the Boeing 757 to fill about one-third of a trash container.
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