Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

John the Revelator

Gallatin, TN

#267020 Mar 19, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
I'm not going through all your lame debunked crap
Debunked? You are suffering a failure of perspective, my overpaid-at-a-nickel-a-month friend. When faced with lies from the most consistently predictable institutional liar in modern history (The U.S. Government), it isn't the obvious truth that requires debunking, merely whatever horseshit the government attempts to feed the media-dependent proletariat.

This has been done. The 9/11 Commission Report is long-debunked. Just like the Warren Commission Report before it.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267022 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
as well as pondering the strange motive behind the FBI's IMMEDIATE confiscation (and subsequent failure to produce) of CCTV footage from every business within a visual radius of the structure .
Strange they take possible crime scene evidence, if one holds up a 7-11 do you think the authorities just might take the tape?(PS: Link me to the # of Cameras you claim are at the Pentagon (Cameras Outside the building)

PS: Some have been released.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267023 Mar 19, 2014
A list of all the videotapes is available, which shows many of these videotapes do not have footage of the Pentagon at all. Instead, many have footage of the WTC, some are security video tapes taken from a Kinko's in Florida, etc. Some that show the Pentagon were taken days after the attacks, and some in the evening of 9/11/2001.

The security camera footage taken from around the Pentagon included the Citgo, the Doubletree, and the Pentagon parking lot. There was also video from cameras at Reagan National Airport parking garage. Both video files show smoke in the distance coming from direction of Pentagon. Another video came from a DEA HQ security camera atop 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA. The camera was repositioned after attack to show post-crash footage of Pentagon.

Footage taken after the attack included home video filmed by a tourist traveling past Pentagon and then by AP photographer who borrowed the camera, and video taken by a NBC4 Washington reporter...

The list of 85 videos

Five videotapes were recovered from the post-attack Pentagon crime scene and submitted to the FBI Laboratory in Quantico.

13 videos were obtained by the Defense Protective Services (DPS)- Pentagon Police - on 9/25/2001 from individual filming Pentagon site from Boundary Channel Drive. These included footage from the WTC site in the days after the attcks.

One (1) Beta video tape - interviews in NYC
One (1) DVCAM tape labeled "Twin Towers, World Trade Center" - NYC/WTC
One (1) DVCAM tape - suburban setting, unknown individuals, dated 9/12-13
One (1) DVCAM tape - NYC/WTC, 9/21-22
One (1) DVCAM tape - NYC/WTC, 9/22-23
One (1) DVCAM tape - NYC 9/23
One (1) DVCAM tape - interviews in NYC; 10 seconds of Pentagon footage, but not crash site
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#267024 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
Of course 9/11 was an inside job.
Ignoring the mountains of scientific and photographic evidence that baldly disprove the 9/11 Commission Report - a report so full of holes that you could teach a putting clinic on the cover - one merely has to look at two aspects of this crime against humanity to begin the long process of overcoming one's corporate-media brainwashing on 9/11.
1. Modus Operandi: What is the U.S. Government's modus operandi when faced with the necessity of engaging in a cover-up? It is to immediately assemble a high-level, impeccably official-appearing committee on the matter, announce that a shoddy, incompetent, secretive investigation has been completed WELL BEFORE such an investigation could POSSIBLY be completed, and release a report to the public which completely vindicates the government, and casts the blame completely on the patsy. They will do this no matter how inconceivable their story is.
Did the U.S. Government follow its modus operandi following 9/11? Absolutely.
2. Motive: This is merely a tale of two motives here.
First, the "Terrorist" motive: Prove that you can do it? Send the message that you hate freedom? Awaken the sleeping giant, bringing decades of hatred and warfare on your own people from the most powerful military force in the history of the planet?
None of these make any sense. "But terrorism itself doesn't make any sense!!" Stop. Now.
Second, the "Military-Industrial Complex" motive: Literally TRILLIONS of dollars, and carte blanche to pick a fight with any Islamic country at any point in the future, whenever they feel like it, with the full backing of the American public - or at least the stupid ones, which are, unfortunately, the majority.
So you see, even just a surface examination of the big picture points to the very likely culpability of elements within out own government and "corpotocracy."
And when one then begins to examine the actual evidence, well...
OF COURSE IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!
Wake up and smell the fatal corruption, America. Your shadow government is laughing at you.
Oh and who can forget all the bills that were slid under the noses of Americans while we were be subjected to fake anthrax attacks.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267025 Mar 19, 2014
8 videos were received on 10/11/2001 at Quantico. These videos were collected during consent search of residence in Avanel, New Jersey. Pending case on subject.

One (1) damaged Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape

Videos received on 10/15/2001 at Quantico. These videos were collected from surveillance cameras at multiple Kinko's in South Florida.

One (1) TDK 1-160 VHS video tape
One (1) VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267026 Mar 19, 2014
Video received on 10/22/2001 at Quantico. This video was recovered from garbage at residenced in Neenah, Wisconsin by the Neenah Police Department. Investigation on suspect has been closed.

One (1) damaged VHS video tape and housing

Received at Washington Field Office Command Post

These two video tapes included footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene taken by DOD media pool photographers, and were obtained from Navy Rear Admiral Craig Quigley.

One (1) Betacam BCT-30G video cassette, labeled "1 of 2" & "early 6pm 9/11/01"
One (1) Betacam BCT-30G video cassette, labeled "2 of 2" & "early pm 9/11/01"

Also received at the Washington Field Office Command Post:

One (1) VHS video cassette - witness interviews near Pentagon after the attack
One (1) VHS video cassette, labeled "9/11/2001" - footage of post Pentagon crime scene, obtained from Chief Mastin, Prince William County
One (1) TDK Hi8 MP 120 video casette, wrapped in Pentagon map and labeled on back "1/29/1952 Mohan Shresesa 8/2/2018 Todoroki Japan 9/17/01 3:00 hr Fern/So. Rotary" - Home video taken from car, dated 9/17/2001,showing post-crash Pentagon crime scene very briefly from road (~10 seconds)
One (1) FujiFilm DP121 video cassette, labeled "WJLA-TV" - miscellaneous footage from news reporter, dated 9/18/2001
One (1) Sony MP120 8mm video cassette - Home video, DC sightseeing
One (1) TDK HG Ultimate TC-30 video cassette - Home video, unknown date, showing brief footage of Pentagon (not crash site)
One (1) Maxell DVM60SE mini digital video cassette - Home video, dated 9/17/2001, showing brief footage of Pentagon (not crash site)
One (1) Sony Hi8 video cassette - Home video obtained by DPS on 9/11/2001 showing ~6 seconds of Pentagon footage (not crash site)
One (1) TDK Hi8 MP 120 video cassette - Home video obtained by DPS on 9/21/2001, showing post-crash Pentagon crime scene
One (1) JVC MP120 8mm video cassette - Home video obtained by DPS on 9/21/2001, showing brief footage of Pentagon (not crash site)
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267027 Mar 19, 2014
Videos filmed on 9/26/2001 by FBI Forensic Audio-Visual Analysis Unit (FAVIAU) of post-crash Pentagon crime scene.

One (1) original SONY 40 min. Digital Betacam video tape
One (1) original SONY 40 min. Digital Betacam video tape

Videos submitted to FBI Laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, under cover of communication dated 2/19/2002, all depicting WTC footage.

One (1) Betacam video tape
One (1) HDCAM video tape
One (1) Betacam SP video tape
One (1) Betacam SP video tape
One (1) Mini DV video tape maked in part Antonio M.
One (1) DVC PRO video tape
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1056 COPY 5A of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1056 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1471 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1788 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1729 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1808 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1813 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B530 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B729 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1563 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1051 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1787 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B2406 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1276 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "CNN RE: BURN VICTIM..."
One VHS video tape marked in part "NIGHTLINE 2/15/2002"
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267028 Mar 19, 2014
Videos submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico, under communication dated 5/13/2002.

One (1) Sony SDX1-25C video tape
One (1) Sony SDX1-25C video tape
One (1) TDK 8mm video tape

Video obtained by FBI on 9/28/2001 and submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico on 5/28/2002. Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 showing footage of WTC after attacks, obtained by Suffolk County, New York Police Department.

One Hi 8mm video cassette tape from Eileen McMahon

Video obtained by FBI on 9/13/2001 and submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico on 5/28/2002. Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 showing footage of second plane hitting WTC and aftermath.

One Mini DV 60 video cassette tape

Video submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico under cover of communication dated 9/22/2001. Obtained by FBI NK from Dime Savings Bank, Nutley, New Jersey

One TDK T-160 VHS video tape

Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by NBC4 Washington reporter, with footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) home Video of the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.

Video from DEA HQ security camera atop 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA. Camera repositioned after attack to show post-crash footage of Pentagon. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) videotape

Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by tourist traveling past Pentagon and then by AP photographer who borrowed the camera. Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) videotape

Copy of home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by AP photographer using camera borrowed from nearby motorist. Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) duplicate video cassette tape dated 9/11/01

Video from cameras at Reagan National Airport parking garage. Both video files show smoke in the distance coming from direction of Pentagon. Obtained by FBI on 9/13/2001.

One (1) CD containing 2 video files

Video from security camera at Citgo Gas Station, 801 S. Joyce Street, Arlington, Virginia. Submitted to FAVIAU to determine if video showed impact of plane into Pentagon. Determined not to show impact. Obtained by FBI on 9/11/2001.

One (1) JVC EHG Hi-Fi videocassette, labeled Day 11 Quarters K

Video from security camera at Doubletree Hotel, 300 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, Virginia. Security video showing rotating footage from different camera locations at hotel; no camera captures impact of plane into Pentagon.

One (1) TDK video tape marked "11C"

Images captured by two separate cameras at the entrance to the Pentagon Mall Terrace parkinng lot. Images capture the impact of the plane into the Pentagon from two different cameras. Obtained from the Pentagon Force Protection Agency via USA/EDVA.

One (1) CD-ROM
http://web.archive.org/web/20080208102217/htt...

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#267029 Mar 19, 2014
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>Revised Report of Results: MVA9119
Report on the
Analysis of Red/Gray Chips
in WTC Dust
Prepared for:
Classical Guide
Feb, 2012
Denver, CO
James R. Millette, Ph.D.
Executive Director
MVA Scientific Consultants
3300 Breckinridge Boulevard
Suite 400 Duluth, GA 30096

Conclusions
The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments.
There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nano-thermite.

OH SHIT ..... YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN ....but I'm guessing you are used to that by now ...LMAO @ YOU !!!!
Such a model of civility, class, and intelligence. Question, are you related to WasteOfWater?

The great debunking technique: find anything that claims the opposite, then claim the issue is debunked.

Learn something, Catfish.

http://youtu.be/lCCQiBe5X80

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267030 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice counter-argument, non-factor.
What claim would you like to address next?

Flight 93 Debris from the soft earth of a former mining area?

http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos...

STONYCREEK, Pa.-- The FBI said yesterday that it has finished its work at the crash scene of United Flight 93 after recovering about 95 percent of the downed airliner and concluding that explosives were not responsible for bringing it down.

http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/2001092...

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#267031 Mar 19, 2014
The 9/11 Commission Report is long-debunked???....... by who David Ray Griffin the theology professor !?!?!?!? LOL
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
Debunked? You are suffering a failure of perspective, my overpaid-at-a-nickel-a-month friend. When faced with lies from the most consistently predictable institutional liar in modern history (The U.S. Government), it isn't the obvious truth that requires debunking, merely whatever horseshit the government attempts to feed the media-dependent proletariat.
This has been done. The 9/11 Commission Report is long-debunked. Just like the Warren Commission Report before it.

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#267033 Mar 19, 2014
911 changed America some still do not understand the ramifications or acknowledge the FACT the government flat out lied about the air quality in NY after the buildings were demolished.

USA PATRIOT Act of 2001
Allowed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to authorize warrantless surveillance of Americans' international electronic communications.

Expanded the authority of the FBI to issue National Security Letters (NSL) requesting information from and about Americans.

Humanitarian Law Project v. Holder, 201

Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004

US Customs and Border Protection and Department of Homeland Security Policy Changes
Attorney General Guidelines for Domestic FBI Operations, 2008
John the Revelator

Gallatin, TN

#267034 Mar 19, 2014
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Link me to the # of Cameras you claim are at the Pentagon (Cameras Outside the building)
Sorry friend, that's classified information. Which is another way of saying, "Screw you, you'll take whatever information we give you."

But being ex-Air Force, I can tell you that there were around 40 cameras in plain sight surrounding the 7th Bomb Wing HQ at Carswell AFB in 1985, a structure approximately 1/30th the size of the Pentagon.

One might assume the Pentagon, 16 years and one digital technological revolution later, would have...in excess of that number.

I appreciate you posting a list of all the FBI-confiscated videos, though I'm not exactly sure why you are suddenly validating the Truther side of the debate - usually it takes longer for someone to see the light.

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#267035 Mar 19, 2014
who wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you ever see a documentary called "Out foxed"? I found it quite an eye opener.
I've reached the conclusion that all corporate media is agenda driven and not to be trusted.
No I have never watched the video...but I will... thanks

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#267036 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry friend, that's classified information. Which is another way of saying, "Screw you, you'll take whatever information we give you."

But being ex-Air Force, I can tell you that there were around 40 cameras in plain sight surrounding the 7th Bomb Wing HQ at Carswell AFB in 1985, a structure approximately 1/30th the size of the Pentagon.

One might assume the Pentagon, 16 years and one digital technological revolution later, would have...in excess of that number.

I appreciate you posting a list of all the FBI-confiscated videos, though I'm not exactly sure why you are suddenly validating the Truther side of the debate - usually it takes longer for someone to see the light.
Haha, wit entertains me, so Im not around here much.

Great post, because without wit,

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267037 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
But being ex-Air Force, I can tell you that there were around 40 cameras in plain sight surrounding the 7th Bomb Wing HQ at Carswell AFB in 1985, a structure approximately 1/30th the size of the Pentagon.
Irrelevant!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#267039 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. The government has all the evidence locked away (including the 70+ CCTV videos confiscated from private businesses surrounding the Pentagon).
<quoted text>
Interesting observations, you two, considering I pre-qualified my entire post by clearly stating it wasn't going to address the evidence.
Typical government sycophants - ignoring the real point and progressing directly to irrelevancies.
That is simply a paranoid opinion which you cannot prove and is already debunked by plenty of both credible and tangible evidence.

Prove that I have any connection too the government. You opinion that I do is a fallacy appealing to the emotions of morons.

You have nothing.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#267041 Mar 19, 2014
John the Revelator wrote:
<quoted text>
I appreciate you posting a list of all the FBI-confiscated videos, though I'm not exactly sure why you are suddenly validating the Truther side of the debate - usually it takes longer for someone to see the light.
You mean the ones that show nothing, or that were of the WTC that you expect to show the Pentagon?

“One For the Money”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#267042 Mar 19, 2014
This was a LIE by the government.
People are still dying from breathing the air.
Admit it your gov lies.

September 18, 2001, EPA administrator Christine Todd Whitman told the public, via a press release, "We are very encouraged that the results from our monitoring of air-quality and drinking-water conditions in both New York and near the Pentagon show that the public in these areas are not being exposed to excessive levels of asbestos or other harmful substances" and that "Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York … that their air is safe to breathe and the water is safe to drink.

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

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#267043 Mar 19, 2014
^ Yeah. that one.

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