Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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#265276 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
“ The Lord of delirious minds.” is scientifically literate?
I'd say you have a totally delirious mind yourself.
Huh Eh !
You type many things, however most all of it is wrong.

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#265277 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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United Airlines Flight 93's crash into rural Somerset County decimated all human remains so badly that investigators can't say if any of the 44 people aboard were killed before the aircraft went down, the FBI has told the county coroner.
That leaves it up to the jet's cockpit voice recorder to offer support for widely held assumptions that the four hijackers began killing passengers before or during a fight for control of the jetliner. For now, federal investigators holding that recorder, one of two pieces commonly dubbed the black box, are staying mum.
Investigators who recovered remains from the Shanksville-area crash site brought possible stab wounds and lacerations to the attention of FBI pathologists, Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said yesterday. But the FBI has responded that "the catastrophic nature of the crash and fragmentation" left them [unable to draw conclusions,] Miller said.
Let's see, Armed Forces DNA Lab, old time MSM, and the FBI. Got any other sources or do we just have to believe these three, all beholden to the govie?
Why would the coroner say he never saw any blood?
I would rather believe the coroner. He has no reason to lie. He's probably either dead or paid off by now.
Huh Eh !
So what? DNA was used to identify many of the remains. The backwoods coroner spoke too soon.

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#265279 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
So going with your premise that:
1. Dead bodies do not bleed,
2. And by your post "and those people were killed instantly and torn apart and flung about from such a devastating impact and explosion, there would be little blood evidence to be found. Except in the tissues found flung about"
3. The coroner says no blood was found, at least by him.
4. Any possible DNA that was recovered had to be severely contaminated and unusable.
Questions:
5. Then how did the FBI manage to positively identify more than 40 people by DNA analysis, 6. Where did they get those samples from?
7. And where did they get more than 40 samples of DNA to compare whatever they say they found with?
Someone is lying here.
Huh eh !
Where do any DNA samples come from? Do you ever watch CSI? Tooth brushes, hair brushes, shaving razors etc. It isn't hard to get valid DNA samples. When the bodies went splat like a bug on the windshield, they left huge swatches of DNA. The coroner lacked the necessary facilities to do the match. He was overwhelmed by the magnitude of the crime scene.

It isn't lying, simply common sense and knowledge which you don't seem to possess.

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#265280 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
“ The Lord of delirious minds.” is scientifically literate?
I'd say you have a totally delirious mind yourself.
Huh Eh !
Projection

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#265281 Feb 1, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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DNA is in every cell of your body, you don't need much to make a complete DNA profile, no more than a a half a gram of tissue is many times more than enough, even a single hair is enough.
You are just plain scientifically illiterate
Exactly. People leave DNA all over the place in their homes.

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#265284 Feb 1, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. People leave DNA all over the place in their homes.
The police can get it off discarded items such as a cup you drank from or a cigarette butt.
You sure don't leave much on a cup you drank from, but it's enough.

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#265285 Feb 1, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Such irony!
Your only attempt to support your position to date has been claiming that because less than 1% of the engineers and architects in the US signed Gage$ online petition....911 was an inside jobbity, jobbity, jobbity job...and that David Griscom is an expert in building collapses although his entire career had nothing to do with structural engineering.
The reason people like you can't handle the truth about 911 is because you're so busy trying to justify your childish belief system that you never stop to look at the reality around you.
Studies And Investigations
2002/05 - Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (SEI/ASCE)- World Trade Center Building Performance Study - link 1, link 2
2002/05 - Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)- The Towers Lost and Beyond - link
2002/09 - John D. Osteraas - World Trade Center: Assessment of Structural and Architectural Damage
The study was conducted for Exponent Failure Analysis Associates on behalf of Swiss Re and other insurers of the WTC complex.
2002/09 - Ali Reza - Damage to the WTC Complex Due to the Collapse of Only One Tower
The study was conducted for Exponent Failure Analysis Associates on behalf of Swiss Re and other insurers of the WTC complex.
2002/10 - Weidlinger Associates Inc.(WAI), LZA Technology/Thornton-Tomasetti, ARUPFire, Hughes Associates Inc., Hillman Environmental Group, RWDI, Z-Axis Corp - World Trade Center—Structural Engineering Investigation - link
The study was performed by a group of engineering firms led by WAI and was conducted on behalf of Silverstein Properties.
2005/09 - National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)- Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster - link
2006/09, 2007/04 - Purdue University, Computer Graphics and Visualization Lab - High-Fidelity Visualization of Large-Scale Simulations - link 1, link 2
And of course twoof has produce diddly squat in return....but the true BLEEVERS like yourself care nothing for truth.
Your cult is dead.
The truth is before your eyes but you do not see it or comprehend?
Reminiscent of Germans during the Hitler times it's sad to find people such as you who have lost the ability to think for themselves.
And you have the audacity to spout FEMA's name after so many human beings suffered during and after Hurricane Katrina.

I was reading the comments after watching a video on you tube about the collapses and someone wrote , Does anyone still believe we were attacked September 11th?
Everyone who has half of a brain knows it was an inside job so the cult calling is obsolete sorry if this hurts your feelings.
I think I will reply on you tube comments and send people here to the corner of ignorance!
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#265286 Feb 1, 2014
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onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#265287 Feb 1, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Good grief oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!
Do you do anything other than absurdly stupid?
The piggy is about to get his ass handed to him again.

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#265288 Feb 1, 2014
Military and Intelligence Personnel

"Scholars and professionals ... have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official 'investigations' have really been cover-up operations." -- Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, Former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development

Time to read what the Lt.Col has to say.-)
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#265289 Feb 1, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>
Good grief oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!
Do you do anything other than absurdly stupid?
You need to get laid, calm you right down
Pegasus

Bronx, NY

#265292 Feb 2, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives:
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction
4. Over 100 first responders reported explosionsL and flashes
5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally
6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
8. 1200-foot-diameter debris field: no "pancaked" floors found
9. Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front
10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples
13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples
The three high-rises exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:
1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer-lasting fires have never collapsed
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-...
Huh Eh !
First off you are not going to delegate the same moronic accusations for at least 300 x's as you fools will make a charge and then run from backing your charge onto the next inner 911 subject to do the same thing over again.

You provide your so called evidence and we can examine it.........not the accusations , bogus internet links, no evidence, and then you run.

Furthermore I don't know if the rock you live under has cable/sat tv but I haven't heard jackshit about anybody being dragged in a court or tribunal for the purpose of defending themselves against indictments for murder or conspiracy to commit murder.

According to you Truthers there should be a laundry list of charges so shit or get off the pot and provide the charges.

There isn't going to be anymore magical bunk mystery tours or carousel rides anymore, let start with those indictments and work backwards.

No more games by the Truth Movement.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265293 Feb 2, 2014
-Web wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth is before your eyes but you do not see it or comprehend?
Reminiscent of Germans during the Hitler times it's sad to find people such as you who have lost the ability to think for themselves.
And you have the audacity to spout FEMA's name after so many human beings suffered during and after Hurricane Katrina.
I was reading the comments after watching a video on you tube about the collapses and someone wrote , Does anyone still believe we were attacked September 11th?
Everyone who has half of a brain knows it was an inside job so the cult calling is obsolete sorry if this hurts your feelings.
I think I will reply on you tube comments and send people here to the corner of ignorance!
You: "Duhhhh....almost 1% of the engineers have signed a petition that says 911 was an inside jobbity, jobbity, jobbity job and I blindly believe them!"

Me: "Here's paper after paper written by relevant professionals and peer reviewed properly which support my position."

You: "Duhhh....lets talk about something else now...<insert esoteric nuttiness here>."

Good luck with that!

Oh but you did get something right!

It requires half a brain to believe the crap you do. Any more of a brain and one can actually see how utterly ridiculous it is.

Half fun with your half a brain!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265294 Feb 2, 2014
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to get laid, calm you right down
Oh manyfails!

I'm married with children and have ethics, morals and values so quit trying to set me up with your mother.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265295 Feb 2, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives:
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction
4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes
5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally
6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
8. 1200-foot-diameter debris field: no "pancaked" floors found
9. Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front
10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples
13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples
The three high-rises exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:
1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer-lasting fires have never collapsed
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-...
Huh Eh !
Translation: "Maybe if I re-post all the crap that's already been debunked no one will notice."

Oh elevator boy-sheep-DNA 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS, re-hashing all twoofs previous failures isn't going to help you now!

For those not prone to heavy drooling,

http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/



http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911nutphy...

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eag...

http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm

http://www.jnani.org/mrking/writings/911/king...

http://www.debunking911.com/

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Main_Page

http://11-settembre.blogspot.ca/2007/04/engli...

http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php...

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2012/...

Commence hand waving and ad hom attacks, but no substance from TEAM TWOOF...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265296 Feb 2, 2014
Twoof: Reaffirming their scientific literacy since Sept 12 2001!

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#265297 Feb 2, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Translation: "Maybe if I re-post all the crap that's already been debunked no one will notice."
Oh elevator boy-sheep-DNA 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS, re-hashing all twoofs previous failures isn't going to help you now!
For those not prone to heavy drooling,
http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jC3JgWkNNIQXX
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911nutphy...
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eag...
http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm
http://www.jnani.org/mrking/writings/911/king...
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://11-settembre.blogspot.ca/2007/04/engli...
http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php...
http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/2012/...
Commence hand waving and ad hom attacks, but no substance from TEAM TWOOF...
Who would have guessed the zombie apocalypse would be a zillion dumb assed twoofers mindlessly tripping around the internet typing muah....Bush done it .. inside job...you tube!..Fema camp..mini nuke....deaf ray....harrp....secret cabal....rawr..

dumb zombies!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265298 Feb 2, 2014
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>First off you are not going to delegate the same moronic accusations for at least 300 x's as you fools will make a charge and then run from backing your charge onto the next inner 911 subject to do the same thing over again.
You provide your so called evidence and we can examine it.........not the accusations , bogus internet links, no evidence, and then you run.
Furthermore I don't know if the rock you live under has cable/sat tv but I haven't heard jackshit about anybody being dragged in a court or tribunal for the purpose of defending themselves against indictments for murder or conspiracy to commit murder.
According to you Truthers there should be a laundry list of charges so shit or get off the pot and provide the charges.
There isn't going to be anymore magical bunk mystery tours or carousel rides anymore, let start with those indictments and work backwards.
No more games by the Truth Movement.
Funny how twoofers always skip the proof portion of making claims.

Gotta love the one about FEMA steel samples and thermite.

There were two small areas which showed LOW TEMPERATURE INTERGRANULAR MELTING DUE CHEMICAL REACTIONS WHICH LOWERED THE MELTING POINT OF THE STEEL....but in twooferdumb that translates to thermite.
Pegasus

Warwick, RI

#265299 Feb 2, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Who would have guessed the zombie apocalypse would be a zillion dumb assed twoofers mindlessly tripping around the internet typing muah....Bush done it .. inside job...you tube!..Fema camp..mini nuke....deaf ray....harrp....secret cabal....rawr..
dumb zombies!
I like that zombie apocalypse, very discriptive, very catchy.

What can we couple with zombie to re-coin the demise of the formerly known Truthers?
Pegasus

Warwick, RI

#265300 Feb 2, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Funny how twoofers always skip the proof portion of making claims.
Gotta love the one about FEMA steel samples and thermite.
There were two small areas which showed LOW TEMPERATURE INTERGRANULAR MELTING DUE CHEMICAL REACTIONS WHICH LOWERED THE MELTING POINT OF THE STEEL....but in twooferdumb that translates to thermite.
Hahaha.......one way to completely shut them down is lets start from the end and work to the beginning, but I just ignored the cardinal rule in the Land of Truth, there is no end...or excuse me, Truthers can find no end ....so the rule is ignore an ending.

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