Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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#265258 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
To date the FBI has not presented anything near enough evidence to support the claims of over 90% of United Airlines Flight 93 being recovered from the Shanksville crash site.
The coroner's assessment came yesterday as he confirmed that the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory has used DNA samples to match recovered remains with the last of 40 crew members and passengers aboard the hijacked jetliner 14 weeks ago when it slammed into a recovered strip mine at around 500 mph.

http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/2001122...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265259 Feb 1, 2014
ColKlink wrote:
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The 'twoofer' is the one with no facts - You.
You link to a kangaroo court case of an alleged hijacker. He was never on any plane.
There's no telling what that guy actually did to get thrown in prison, but it had nothing to do with 9/11.
Were you wearing your ruby red slippers when you mindlessly chanted that?

If not, that's why the twoof fairy never heard you!

Try again Dorthy!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265260 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
To date the FBI has not presented anything near enough evidence to support the claims of over 90% of United Airlines Flight 93 being recovered from the Shanksville crash site. The only piece of recognizable debris in the 10’ deep hole is part on an engine. Coincidentally enough one witness I spoke with who stood in front of that hole that morning swore up and down to me there was no way there was an entire airplane in it. He stated that he had flown on plenty of commercial airliners in his life and was well familiar with how large they are and told me that the hole was more like the size of an engine than an entire plane.
Of all the witnesses I spoke with, including Coroner Wally Miller, I waited for one of them to describe to me the massive 100’ gash in the ground caused by the impacting wings yet not one of them ever made any mention of this. But like all the other witnesses I have spoken with even Wally Miller when recalling the event was still astonished at the size of it. He wanted to clarify that the images most people seen showing this big hole in the ground were after the work had been done there and what it was that morning resembled nothing of the sort.
Not one person witnessed human remains at the Flight 93 crash site on 9/11. Despite many people searching for remains of anything throughout the immediate area none were seen. Naturally I found this to be very surprising when Wally Miller showed me the photographs he took on the following day after stating he too did not discover any remains on the 11th.
The photographs Wally took showed very little evidence of human remains. So little one could attribute it all to coming from one human being. There were several photos of a severed left arm, a couple which appeared to be a human scalp, and lastly a couple of what appeared to be an organ perhaps a heart or lung it was hard to distinguish in the photo. The amazing part is that all of these remains photographed by Wally on the 12th were in plain view laying in dirt. The only dirt in the vicinity is the dirt road which the plane allegedly crashed by. Everyone was traveling up and down this road and many people wondered off into the area of the blast trajectory into the woods. None reported seeing any such thing and let me tell you the half an arm would have easily been noticed.
Wally Miller never found a drop of blood at the crash site. Despite a severed arm laying in dirt along with what appeared to be internal organs none of them left a single trace of blood where they were recovered.
Instead the FBI recovered the remains and proceeded to bring them into the DMORT facility they erected for Miller and the task of identifying the deceased. The FBI then in turn would bring the remains to Miller without any proper documentation of their chain of custody or place of location.
The FBI also provided Miller the list of names of who he would find and provided samples of those said individuals to Miller.
So they gave Miller the names of the victims, the remains of the victims, & the DNA samples to test against those remains to confirm their identities. The FBI took Wally Miller by the hand and led him down the path of the deceived. And with that they accomplished their necessary ending to their story in Shanksville.
So the pesky FBI took over and that was the end of that.
Sound familiar? It should! It has happened over and over respective to 9/11.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...
Huh Eh !
A post by another brain dead twofer is your source...oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

You really don't get what credibility is do you.

(Rhetorical question of course)

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265261 Feb 1, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Denial is a river in Egypt huh?
It's the spring of life in twooferdumb.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265262 Feb 1, 2014
ColKlink wrote:
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See if this sounds familiar..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanksville,_Pen...
The official narrative is bogus. Back to you.
It is up to you to prove the thing. Ask any prosecutor. So far - nadda.
No plane at Shankseville.
No plane at the Pentagon.
No commercial jets in NYC.
No hijackers.
No proof hijackers could fly as performed.
Translation: "Oh Toto, why on why won't anyone listen to my twoofs!"

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265263 Feb 1, 2014
BTW "new" socky, you keep stating "ask any prosecutor" and the Zacarias Moussaoui trial was all about the evidence for he 911 terror attack.

I realize that as a twofer you're hopelessly ignorant but whether you agree or not your tiny little mind agrees, the case was prosecuted and one.

Do ya get it?

Of course you don't, you've burned yourself out slurping and swallowing stupid from twoofer web sites.

Good luck with that!

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#265266 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
United Airlines Flight 93's crash into rural Somerset County decimated all human remains so badly that investigators can't say if any of the 44 people aboard were killed before the aircraft went down, the FBI has told the county coroner.
That leaves it up to the jet's cockpit voice recorder to offer support for widely held assumptions that the four hijackers began killing passengers before or during a fight for control of the jetliner. For now, federal investigators holding that recorder, one of two pieces commonly dubbed the black box, are staying mum.
Investigators who recovered remains from the Shanksville-area crash site brought possible stab wounds and lacerations to the attention of FBI pathologists, Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said yesterday. But the FBI has responded that "the catastrophic nature of the crash and fragmentation" left them [unable to draw conclusions,] Miller said.
Let's see, Armed Forces DNA Lab, old time MSM, and the FBI. Got any other sources or do we just have to believe these three, all beholden to the govie?
Why would the coroner say he never saw any blood?
I would rather believe the coroner. He has no reason to lie. He's probably either dead or paid off by now.
Huh Eh !
Dead animals don't bleed only living animals bleed. So if those people were killed instantly and torn apart and flung about from such a devastating impact and explosion, there would be little blood evidence to be found. Except in the tissues found flung about. In a sense it would look much like road kill., the only time you see blood on road kill is when it is before it dies or when it is mashed to goo.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#265268 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
If I cut the carotid artery in your throat:
1. You die almost instantly.
2. You bleed out almost totally. So don't say dead animals don't bleed. They can bleed profusely.
That being said, if there was a devastating impact and or explosion and tissues flung about, any DNA found would be hopelessly contaminated and would make it nearly impossible to positively identify 40 or more people, even if you had prior samples to compare with. And where did the prior DNA samples the FBI says they used for comparison of all these people come from?
Did the FBI routinely keep DNA records of everyone in those days?
Someone is lying here and it ain't us. All we have to use for speculation about what actually went on is what they left us. And they purposefully didn't leave much for us to find.
Men in black suits, arriving in black SUVs, confiscating black boxes and such, doing their small part in the black ops for political gain that was 9/11.
What pigboy likes to call de ebil guvment.
Huh Eh !
Dead animals do not bleed, if you cut somethings throat , it dies from blood loss because the heart is pumping it's blood out. No heart beat no bleed out. But an intact body with a hole could drain a little. But nothing like a living thing with a cut artery.
I guess you never killed an animal before.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265269 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
pigboy said:
"You really don't get what credibility is do you."
I know you don't have any, pigboy!
Huh Eh !
Such deliciously wonderful irony oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Particularly since you've been caught spewing lies about everything under the sun and made yourself into nothing more than a laughable moronic fool with sock issues!

Hey! Tell us the one about how the ebil US gub'ment invented ebola and AIDs to reduce the population again!

How's that working btw?

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Have you got yer vaccinations yet?

Oh right, there isn't one for stupid....sorry about your luck<:-)

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265270 Feb 1, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Dead animals do not bleed, if you cut somethings throat , it dies from blood loss because the heart is pumping it's blood out. No heart beat no bleed out. But an intact body with a hole could drain a little. But nothing like a living thing with a cut artery.
I guess you never killed an animal before.
Forgive him. He's stupid.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#265271 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
If I cut the carotid artery in your throat:
1. You die almost instantly.
2. You bleed out almost totally. So don't say dead animals don't bleed. They can bleed profusely.
That being said, if there was a devastating impact and or explosion and tissues flung about, any DNA found would be hopelessly contaminated and would make it nearly impossible to positively identify 40 or more people, even if you had prior samples to compare with. And where did the prior DNA samples the FBI says they used for comparison of all these people come from?
Did the FBI routinely keep DNA records of everyone in those days?
Someone is lying here and it ain't us. All we have to use for speculation about what actually went on is what they left us. And they purposefully didn't leave much for us to find.
Men in black suits, arriving in black SUVs, confiscating black boxes and such, doing their small part in the black ops for political gain that was 9/11.
What pigboy likes to call de ebil guvment.
Huh Eh !
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Dead animals don't bleed only living animals bleed.
Good grief oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Do you do anything other than absurdly stupid?
Pegasus

Bronx, NY

#265272 Feb 1, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>
Good grief oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!
Do you do anything other than absurdly stupid?
Remember Porkpie this is a joker who assumes the identity of Commander Bunny, Steph, Gloop, and Ricky Rat.

What really makes the wheels turn in his head is how the Zombies get paid in the Walking Dead.......hamburger or a payrolll check.

They must be real

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#265274 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
So going with your premise that:
1. Dead bodies do not bleed,
2. And by your post "and those people were killed instantly and torn apart and flung about from such a devastating impact and explosion, there would be little blood evidence to be found. Except in the tissues found flung about"
3. The coroner says no blood was found, at least by him.
4. Any possible DNA that was recovered had to be severely contaminated and unusable.
Questions:
5. Then how did the FBI manage to positively identify more than 40 people by DNA analysis, 6. Where did they get those samples from?
7. And where did they get more than 40 samples of DNA to compare whatever they say they found with?
Someone is lying here.
Huh eh !
DNA is in every cell of your body, you don't need much to make a complete DNA profile, no more than a a half a gram of tissue is many times more than enough, even a single hair is enough.
You are just plain scientifically illiterate

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#265276 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
“ The Lord of delirious minds.” is scientifically literate?
I'd say you have a totally delirious mind yourself.
Huh Eh !
You type many things, however most all of it is wrong.

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#265277 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
United Airlines Flight 93's crash into rural Somerset County decimated all human remains so badly that investigators can't say if any of the 44 people aboard were killed before the aircraft went down, the FBI has told the county coroner.
That leaves it up to the jet's cockpit voice recorder to offer support for widely held assumptions that the four hijackers began killing passengers before or during a fight for control of the jetliner. For now, federal investigators holding that recorder, one of two pieces commonly dubbed the black box, are staying mum.
Investigators who recovered remains from the Shanksville-area crash site brought possible stab wounds and lacerations to the attention of FBI pathologists, Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said yesterday. But the FBI has responded that "the catastrophic nature of the crash and fragmentation" left them [unable to draw conclusions,] Miller said.
Let's see, Armed Forces DNA Lab, old time MSM, and the FBI. Got any other sources or do we just have to believe these three, all beholden to the govie?
Why would the coroner say he never saw any blood?
I would rather believe the coroner. He has no reason to lie. He's probably either dead or paid off by now.
Huh Eh !
So what? DNA was used to identify many of the remains. The backwoods coroner spoke too soon.

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#265279 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
So going with your premise that:
1. Dead bodies do not bleed,
2. And by your post "and those people were killed instantly and torn apart and flung about from such a devastating impact and explosion, there would be little blood evidence to be found. Except in the tissues found flung about"
3. The coroner says no blood was found, at least by him.
4. Any possible DNA that was recovered had to be severely contaminated and unusable.
Questions:
5. Then how did the FBI manage to positively identify more than 40 people by DNA analysis, 6. Where did they get those samples from?
7. And where did they get more than 40 samples of DNA to compare whatever they say they found with?
Someone is lying here.
Huh eh !
Where do any DNA samples come from? Do you ever watch CSI? Tooth brushes, hair brushes, shaving razors etc. It isn't hard to get valid DNA samples. When the bodies went splat like a bug on the windshield, they left huge swatches of DNA. The coroner lacked the necessary facilities to do the match. He was overwhelmed by the magnitude of the crime scene.

It isn't lying, simply common sense and knowledge which you don't seem to possess.

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#265280 Feb 1, 2014
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
“ The Lord of delirious minds.” is scientifically literate?
I'd say you have a totally delirious mind yourself.
Huh Eh !
Projection

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#265281 Feb 1, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
DNA is in every cell of your body, you don't need much to make a complete DNA profile, no more than a a half a gram of tissue is many times more than enough, even a single hair is enough.
You are just plain scientifically illiterate
Exactly. People leave DNA all over the place in their homes.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#265284 Feb 1, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. People leave DNA all over the place in their homes.
The police can get it off discarded items such as a cup you drank from or a cigarette butt.
You sure don't leave much on a cup you drank from, but it's enough.

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#265285 Feb 1, 2014
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Such irony!
Your only attempt to support your position to date has been claiming that because less than 1% of the engineers and architects in the US signed Gage$ online petition....911 was an inside jobbity, jobbity, jobbity job...and that David Griscom is an expert in building collapses although his entire career had nothing to do with structural engineering.
The reason people like you can't handle the truth about 911 is because you're so busy trying to justify your childish belief system that you never stop to look at the reality around you.
Studies And Investigations
2002/05 - Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (SEI/ASCE)- World Trade Center Building Performance Study - link 1, link 2
2002/05 - Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)- The Towers Lost and Beyond - link
2002/09 - John D. Osteraas - World Trade Center: Assessment of Structural and Architectural Damage
The study was conducted for Exponent Failure Analysis Associates on behalf of Swiss Re and other insurers of the WTC complex.
2002/09 - Ali Reza - Damage to the WTC Complex Due to the Collapse of Only One Tower
The study was conducted for Exponent Failure Analysis Associates on behalf of Swiss Re and other insurers of the WTC complex.
2002/10 - Weidlinger Associates Inc.(WAI), LZA Technology/Thornton-Tomasetti, ARUPFire, Hughes Associates Inc., Hillman Environmental Group, RWDI, Z-Axis Corp - World Trade Center—Structural Engineering Investigation - link
The study was performed by a group of engineering firms led by WAI and was conducted on behalf of Silverstein Properties.
2005/09 - National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)- Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster - link
2006/09, 2007/04 - Purdue University, Computer Graphics and Visualization Lab - High-Fidelity Visualization of Large-Scale Simulations - link 1, link 2
And of course twoof has produce diddly squat in return....but the true BLEEVERS like yourself care nothing for truth.
Your cult is dead.
The truth is before your eyes but you do not see it or comprehend?
Reminiscent of Germans during the Hitler times it's sad to find people such as you who have lost the ability to think for themselves.
And you have the audacity to spout FEMA's name after so many human beings suffered during and after Hurricane Katrina.

I was reading the comments after watching a video on you tube about the collapses and someone wrote , Does anyone still believe we were attacked September 11th?
Everyone who has half of a brain knows it was an inside job so the cult calling is obsolete sorry if this hurts your feelings.
I think I will reply on you tube comments and send people here to the corner of ignorance!

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