Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

onemale

Pana, IL

#263031 Dec 2, 2013
So many unanswered questions about 9/11, and there is absolutely nothing here but insults and put downs. What does that have to with 9/11???
I'm refraining from stooping to such lowlife levels. It proves the ones who believe the government have nothing worth saying about 9/11
onemale

Pana, IL

#263032 Dec 2, 2013
They talk about the truth... but it's okay that Bush lied about WMD and thousands died as a result. But hey, that's okay, anything the govie does is okey.

Don't give me the BS that chemical weapons are WMD... because Bush NEVER said we found WMD, if he meant chemical weapons he would have said WE FOUND THEM!!!!!!!!!!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#263033 Dec 2, 2013
onemale wrote:
What planet did you just fly in from?
Earth, you may want to visit it sometime.
onemale wrote:
The hijackers still alive, ALL but one claim, came from numerous reports from the BBC and the Guardian UK.
WHICH YOU ARE ODDLY UNABLE TO PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER FOR THEIR EXISTENCE. All you have provided are links to people claiming that these interviews allegedly took place, none provided any proof whatsoever. Try again.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#263034 Dec 2, 2013
onemale wrote:
BBC Reports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lgPbvRxOwTsXX
BBC reported that there are people who happen to share the same names as a number of hijackers that weren't dead. As for THREE persons who had been identified as hijackers, that at the time of the report, sometime in September 01, for whom claims had been made that they were still alive, one was based on a claim of an existing interview that the BBC didn't have, a father's claim that his son was alive and well in Morocco offered with no proof and a claim of mistaken identity. They reported the claims, NOT that these claims were facts. Sorry. Child you really need to work on your critical thinking skills.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#263035 Dec 2, 2013
onemale wrote:
CNN Reports
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =N2oLt5RGrFsXX
THat ocean front property of mine is still available, because if you bought that video, it's clear that you will buy anything. Your little video only makes claim of one still being alive and he never showed up at the US Embassy as was the claim. Oops.

You're 0 for 2 on proof.
cliffsnotespleas e

Virginia Beach, VA

#263036 Dec 2, 2013
Do you mean my beloved "Dubya" Lied?
Okay, are those still 'freedom' fries?
So, are we still waving the flag now?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#263037 Dec 2, 2013
onemale wrote:
They talk about the truth... but it's okay that Bush lied about WMD and thousands died as a result. But hey, that's okay, anything the govie does is okey.
Don't give me the BS that chemical weapons are WMD... because Bush NEVER said we found WMD, if he meant chemical weapons he would have said WE FOUND THEM!!!!!!!!!!
Try and catch up with reality, these remedial lessons get boring. Saddam was toast from inauguration day, the Bush Administration was going to see a regime change in Baghdad, everybody knew it, they just needed to sell it. 9/11 temporarily derailed those plans, no matter how hard they tried to pin it on him. Nobody in their right mind wanted to invade Afghanistan, but this country wasn't in its right mind. Feeding off the goodwill engendered by our routing the Taliban and selling the relatively plausible story that Saddam still had some seriously nasty stuff in his arsenal, we went to war again, the war the Administration had on their agenda to begin with. There were good reasons to believe he still had at least some still in reserve. They hadn't fully been accounted for, let alone destroyed before the inspectors left. There was good reason to believe that the Administration was clearly overstating its case (there being no wmd wasn't even on the oppositions radar) they had far more folk for it than against, so off we went into another oblivion.
onemale

Pana, IL

#263038 Dec 2, 2013
And it's okay for Bush to kill thousands of Iraqi civilians from a lie. But that's okay Bush was keeping us safe... from civilians... after all, that's okay they were just Iraqis.
onemale

Pana, IL

#263039 Dec 2, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>BBC reported that there are people who happen to share the same names as a number of hijackers that weren't dead. As for THREE persons who had been identified as hijackers, that at the time of the report, sometime in September 01, for whom claims had been made that they were still alive, one was based on a claim of an existing interview that the BBC didn't have, a father's claim that his son was alive and well in Morocco offered with no proof and a claim of mistaken identity. They reported the claims, NOT that these claims were facts. Sorry. Child you really need to work on your critical thinking skills.
You need to listen to the report again, they were reporting what the govie were telling them.

onemale

Pana, IL

#263040 Dec 2, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>BBC reported that there are people who happen to share the same names as a number of hijackers that weren't dead. As for THREE persons who had been identified as hijackers, that at the time of the report, sometime in September 01, for whom claims had been made that they were still alive, one was based on a claim of an existing interview that the BBC didn't have, a father's claim that his son was alive and well in Morocco offered with no proof and a claim of mistaken identity. They reported the claims, NOT that these claims were facts. Sorry. Child you really need to work on your critical thinking skills.
I trust the word of James Fetzer, and you don't. All we can do is accept the fact we will never agree on this one. I will give you one though... I will start reading the reports more carefully.



onemale

Pana, IL

#263041 Dec 2, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Try and catch up with reality, these remedial lessons get boring. Saddam was toast from inauguration day, the Bush Administration was going to see a regime change in Baghdad, everybody knew it, they just needed to sell it. 9/11 temporarily derailed those plans, no matter how hard they tried to pin it on him. Nobody in their right mind wanted to invade Afghanistan, but this country wasn't in its right mind. Feeding off the goodwill engendered by our routing the Taliban and selling the relatively plausible story that Saddam still had some seriously nasty stuff in his arsenal, we went to war again, the war the Administration had on their agenda to begin with. There were good reasons to believe he still had at least some still in reserve. They hadn't fully been accounted for, let alone destroyed before the inspectors left. There was good reason to believe that the Administration was clearly overstating its case (there being no wmd wasn't even on the oppositions radar) they had far more folk for it than against, so off we went into another oblivion.
We helped Saddam with the war they had with Iran, we didn't like it because Saddam wouldn't finish Iran off.
And Bush needed 9/11 to get the support for the so-called "war on terror" while Iraq was not involved in 9/11.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#263042 Dec 2, 2013
Most of the people in the world simply don't REALIZE just how horrific the jumbo jet attacks on the twin towers were! We're talking impacts of 490mph, and 586mph!! The only place more horrific than the twin towers on that day....was hell itself. Let us never forget the evil and the cowardice that was September 11, 2001. Not in this world, anyway.
Cheney in chains

Virginia Beach, VA

#263043 Dec 2, 2013
anyone ever hear of PNAC? oh, let's disregard that

steel melts at a much higher temp than jet fuel burns

that rift in the ground in Penna. was already there

the hole through the wall at the Pentagon was small

they only released a few frames of the security video

other security cameras footage was confiscated

most of the steel was shipped away not kept as evidence

building 7 collapsed when it was not damaged much

pools of very hot molten metal below the towers

proof of thermate or thermite being used

who stood NORAD down? who did that?

could guys with boxcutters do that too?

some of the supposed hijackers still alive

how did they find their ids outside the towers?

only one account of the guys with boxcutters.

Mrs. Olsen who died, her husband, Mr. Olsen.

a phone call that lasted ZERO seconds. ZERO.

"sir, do the orders still stand?" asked of Cheney

"you haven't heard anything otherwise, have you?"

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#263044 Dec 2, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Most of the people in the world simply don't REALIZE just how horrific the jumbo jet attacks on the twin towers were! We're talking impacts of 490mph, and 586mph!! The only place more horrific than the twin towers on that day....was hell itself. Let us never forget the evil and the cowardice that was September 11, 2001. Not in this world, anyway.
You sound exactly like a guy named Porkpie Hat who trolls this forum.

Perhaps you should look at the NIST report and reconsider that nonsense you just posted.

I saw your other thread and you obviously have no idea what truth is actually about either.

Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#263045 Dec 2, 2013
Cheney in chains wrote:
anyone ever hear of PNAC? oh, let's disregard that

steel melts at a much higher temp than jet fuel burns

that rift in the ground in Penna. was already there

the hole through the wall at the Pentagon was small

they only released a few frames of the security video

other security cameras footage was confiscated

most of the steel was shipped away not kept as evidence

building 7 collapsed when it was not damaged much

pools of very hot molten metal below the towers

proof of thermate or thermite being used

who stood NORAD down? who did that?

could guys with boxcutters do that too?

some of the supposed hijackers still alive

how did they find their ids outside the towers?

only one account of the guys with boxcutters.

Mrs. Olsen who died, her husband, Mr. Olsen.

a phone call that lasted ZERO seconds. ZERO.

"sir, do the orders still stand?" asked of Cheney

"you haven't heard anything otherwise, have you?"
Technically, the propagandists here think the contents of the building burned hotter than the jet fuel that ignited it, thats why

Insults Are Easier
IstrokedoffforEm ma

Virginia Beach, VA

#263046 Dec 2, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically, the propagandists here think the contents of the building burned hotter than the jet fuel that ignited it, thats why
Insults Are Easier
ordinary combustibles burn at an even lower temperature than jet fuel

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#263047 Dec 2, 2013
onemale wrote:
You need to listen to the report again, they were reporting what the govie were telling them.
Remember, this BBC report was done a day or so after the names were "officially" released. They reported who the US government identified as the hijackers, then they reported claims from at least three other sources that three were still alive. Number one was based on a claim of the existence of a video of an interview with one in Saudi Arabia. They didn't have the video. Have you seen it? Do you know anyone who actually has? I haven't and don't. Claim number two was from someone identified as the proud papa one of the hijackers, he claimed his pride and joy was alive and well and visiting Morocco. They offered nothing in the way of confirmation of this. Got any? Claim number three was that of a possible and I repeat possible case of mistaken identity based on a serious lack of originality in Arabic names. They offered no confirmation of this claim. Can you?

Once again you have yet to prove even one person who was "officially" identified as a hijacker, could not not possibly have been one, because there is verifiable proof that they were alive and well and some place else at some point after 9/11. Not even close. By the way, what happened to these folk? They, if real, would be incredibly important evidence of at least one of your multitude of 'questions' and potential conspiracies. One would think y'all would keep track of them.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#263048 Dec 2, 2013
Cheney in chains wrote:
anyone ever hear...
The random regurgitation of assorted fallacies, fantasies and delusions of knowledge and insight, reduced to semi-literate bumper sticker slogans and the things you find in nutshells? I hope that was an act.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#263049 Dec 2, 2013
IstrokedoffforEmma wrote:
<quoted text>ordinary combustibles burn at an even lower temperature than jet fuel
I know, but we are f*cked because people, like this idiot between us, don't think anymore because they have an overall belief that conspiracies are impossible and they conflate every theory together to make it sound crazy.

Thats also why

Insults Are Easier
Dorf On Golf

Virginia Beach, VA

#263050 Dec 3, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The random regurgitation of assorted fallacies, fantasies and delusions of knowledge and insight, reduced to semi-literate bumper sticker slogans and the things you find in nutshells? I hope that was an act.
Rick the Dingleberry

Insults Are Easier

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