Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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yes

no

well, im not sure

onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#263183 Dec 5, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Says nothing about 5 times!
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LINK OR LIE!
Also it doesn't say a hollow aluminum structure can knife through it like butter.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#263184 Dec 5, 2013
According to CBS News:
Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hijackers-lived-w...
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#263186 Dec 5, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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ONE?
Retard, James H. Fetzer says on youtube 5 to 7 are alive and were interviewed by the BBC!
WHERE ARE THE BBC INTERVIEWS WITH 5, BUT I WILL TAKE 1 AS YOU WON'T EVEN FIND THAT
LINK OR LIE!
Right, James Fetzer said it... try asking him.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#263187 Dec 5, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize there are a number of holes in Mr Springman's allegations don't you? Like, for instance, even though he was head of the visa bureau at the US Embassy in Saudi Arabia, he did not have final approval over who received them, that is the duty of the consular officer. He has never named any alleged terrorist whom he claims to have issued one of these passports to and since he left Saudi Arabia in early 1989, he wasn't there to issue the passports to any of the 9/11 hijackers. You got to learn to think child.
I'm not trying to dispute your word but according to this link Mr Springman's title was the Consulate General.

http://visasforterrorists.blogspot.com/

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#263188 Dec 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
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I'd much rather imagine a train is coming, than the alternative.
It is much easier to find out rather than imagine something that couldn't happen. Suppose a section of the track was missing? No train could possibly come right?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#263189 Dec 5, 2013
That's kinda funny since your train left the station already.

Keep imagining. Maybe your train will come someday.
Philip Zelikow

Portsmouth, VA

#263193 Dec 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Link or LIE?
Google, or GTF off teh interwebs, shill troll!
Philip Zelikow

Portsmouth, VA

#263194 Dec 6, 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelik...

Commissions and committees

In late 2000 and early 2001, Zelikow served on President Bush's transition team. After George W. Bush took office, Zelikow was named to a position on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB], and worked on other task forces and commissions as well. He directed the bipartisan National Commission on Federal Election Reform, created after the 2000 election and chaired by former presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford, along with Lloyd Cutler and Bob Michel. This Commission's recommendations led directly to congressional consideration and enactment into law of the Help America Vote Act of 2002.[5]
In 2002, Phil Zelikow became the executive director of the Markle Task Force on National Security in the Information Age. The Task Force comprises a diverse and bipartisan group of experienced policymakers, senior executives from the information technology industry, public interest advocates, and experts in privacy, intelligence, and national security. The Markle Task Force seeks to inform the policy judgments and investments of the federal, state and local governments in the collection and use of information as it relates to national security. The Task Force's reports and recommendations have been codified through two laws (IRPTA 2004 and the Implementing 9/11 Commission Report Act 2007) and several presidential directives. The reports are available at [1].
In Rise of the Vulcans (2004), James Mann reports that when Richard Haas, a senior aide to Secretary of State Colin Powell and the director of policy planning at the State Department, drafted an overview of America’s national security strategy following the September 11, 2001 attacks, Dr. Rice, the national security advisor, "ordered that the document be completely rewritten. She thought the Bush administration needed something bolder, something that would represent a more dramatic break with the ideas of the past. Rice turned the writing over to her old colleague, University of Virginia Professor Philip Zelikow." This document, issued on September 17, 2002, is recognized as a significant document in the Bush administration doctrine of preemptive war.[6][7]
At the recommendation of Vice Chair Lee H. Hamilton[citation needed], Zelikow was appointed executive director of the 9/11 Commission, whose work included examination of the conduct of presidents Clinton and George W. Bush and their administrations. Zelikow's prior involvement with the administration of George W. Bush led to opposition from the 9/11 Family Steering Committee, citing the obvious conflict of interest of having previously worked on the Bush transition team. It had recommended candidates for Cabinet positions and other top national security appointments. Many security positions were filled by people associated with the Project for the New American Century (such as Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld), which advocated a war with Iraq, and lamented that goal would take a long time, unless there was an event like "a new Pearl Harbor."[8] In response to the concerns, Zelikow agreed to recuse himself from any investigation matters pertaining to the National Security Council's transition from the Clinton to Bush administrations, which Zelikow had helped manage.[9]
After being informed of the Department of Defense's Able Danger project by U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer, he failed to have the 9/11 Commission investigate, despite the promise that the Commission would investigate all 9/11 related topics. Able Danger was not included in the Commission's final report. In 2005 and 2006 the Chairman of the House Select Intelligence Committee, Rep. Curt Weldon, publicized Shaffer's allegations in public statements and hearings.[10]
Philip Zelikow

Portsmouth, VA

#263195 Dec 6, 2013
George W. Bush administration

Zelikow's role in the second Iraq war is discussed at some length in Bob Woodward's State of Denial, which presents him as an internal critic of the way the war was being conducted in 2005 and 2006, and as an originator of the alternative approach termed "clear, hold, and build." He is also named by sources such as Jack Goldsmith's The Terror Presidency as an internal critic of the treatment of terrorist captives, and there was wide attention given to an address he made on this subject after leaving office in April 2007.
Based on speeches and internal memos, some political analysts believe that Zelikow disagreed with some aspects of the Bush administration's Middle Eastern policy.[11]
As Counsellor to Secretary of State Rice, Zelikow opposed the Bush administration Torture Memos. In 2006, Zelikow wrote a memorandum warning that the abuse of prisoners through so-called 'enhanced interrogation" could constitute war crimes.[12] Bush administration officials not only ignored his memo, but tried to collect all the copies and destroy them.[13][14] He later testified, "It seemed to me that the OLC interpretation of U.S. Constitutional Law in this area was strained and indefensible. I could not imagine any federal court in America agreeing that the entire CIA program could be conducted and it would not violate the American Constitution." Jane Mayer, author of the Dark Side,[15] quotes Zelikow as predicting that "America's descent into torture will in time be viewed like the Japanese internments," in that "(f)ear and anxiety were exploited by zealots and fools."[16]
Philip Zelikow

Portsmouth, VA

#263196 Dec 6, 2013
Expertise

Zelikow's area of academic expertise is the history and practice of public policy. In addition to the work on German unification, he has been significantly involved in contemporary scholarship on the Cuban Missile Crisis, including the relation between this crisis and the East-West confrontation over Berlin.
While at Harvard, he worked with Ernest May and Richard Neustadt on the use, and misuse, of history in policymaking. They observed, as Zelikow noted in his own words, that "contemporary" history is "defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public's presumptions about its immediate past. The idea of 'public presumption'," he explained, "is akin to William McNeill's notion of 'public myth' but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word 'myth.' Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community."[17] "
Zelikow and May also authored and sponsored scholarship on the relationship between intelligence analysis and policy decisions. Zelikow later helped found a research project to prepare and publish annotated transcripts of presidential recordings made secretly during the Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon administrations (see WhiteHouseTapes.org ) and another project to strengthen oral history work on more recent administrations, with both these projects based at the University of Virginia's Miller Center of Public Affairs.
In writing about the importance of beliefs about history, Zelikow has called attention to what he has called "'searing' or 'molding' events [that] take on 'transcendent' importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation passes from the scene. In the United States, beliefs about the formation of the nation and the Constitution remain powerful today, as do beliefs about slavery and the Civil War. World War II, Vietnam, and the civil rights struggle are more recent examples." He has noted that "a history’s narrative power is typically linked to how readers relate to the actions of individuals in the history; if readers cannot make a connection to their own lives, then a history may fail to engage them at all."[17]
Philip Zelikow

Portsmouth, VA

#263197 Dec 6, 2013
Terrorism

Zelikow has also written about terrorism and national security, including a set of Harvard case studies on "Policing Northern Ireland." In the November–December 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs, he co-authored an article Catastrophic Terrorism, with Ashton B. Carter, and John M. Deutch, in which they speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, "the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either future terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently." [18]

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#263198 Dec 6, 2013
The Ugly American wrote:
<quoted text>What do you mean?

Some guy called me a troll earlier, now you are calling me a sock?

What are you supposed to be, a musician or somethin?

God Bless America, bud!
You're both.

Pretty simple.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#263199 Dec 6, 2013
onemale wrote:
Of the North Tower: How did the top 14 stories collapse 96 stories, where the vertical beams were designed to hold 5 times the weight about, and the weight was being thrown outward away from the building and where there was no fire???

Of the South Tower: The official story could be argued... but the North Tower is totally unthinkable.
And once again you prove you have zero concept of physics.

Statics and dynamics...how the fk does it work eh!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#263200 Dec 6, 2013
onemale wrote:
According to CBS News:
Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hijackers-lived-w...
QUESTION!
onemale wrote:
9/11 Hijackers Passports were issued by the CIA
Link or LIE?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#263201 Dec 6, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Right, James Fetzer said it... try asking him.
Don't care, you claimed it was true, so a post 9-11 interview should be huge news and easy to find, or are you just such a sheeple you believe the net moonbats on faith alone!
onemale wrote:
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Scroll to 1:15
5 of the hijackers were interviewed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G6gtqAr241IXX
LMFAO,

Retard, James H. Fetzer says on youtube 5 to 7 are alive and were interviewed by the BBC!

WHERE ARE THE BBC INTERVIEWS WITH 5, BUT I WILL TAKE 1 AS YOU WON'T EVEN FIND THAT

LINK OR LIE!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#263202 Dec 6, 2013
Hey Space Lizard boy, ever figure out what clause in the Constitution was violated by the creation of the Fed, Thought not.
Philip Zelikow wrote:
Terrorism
Zelikow has also written about terrorism and national security, including a set of Harvard case studies on "Policing Northern Ireland." In the November–December 1998 issue of Foreign Affairs, he co-authored an article Catastrophic Terrorism, with Ashton B. Carter, and John M. Deutch, in which they speculated that if the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center had succeeded, "the resulting horror and chaos would have exceeded our ability to describe it. Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, the event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either future terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently." [18]
Space Lizard boy

Portsmouth, VA

#263203 Dec 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Hey Space Lizard boy, ever figure out what clause in the Constitution was violated by the creation of the Fed, Thought not.
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What does your question have to do with the post you quoted in your reply, that you were replying to?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#263204 Dec 6, 2013
Space Lizard boy wrote:
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What does your question have to do with the post you quoted in your reply, that you were replying to?
LOL, Another sock Fed Boy, sorry for the beating, buy gold the sky is falling!
Space Lizard boy

Portsmouth, VA

#263205 Dec 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Hey Space Lizard boy, ever figure out what clause in the Constitution was violated by the creation of the Fed, Thought not.
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The United States Constitution, Article One, Se3ction 8:

"The Congress shall have Power...

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and
of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights
and Measures;"

Thought not? Or, not thought?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#263206 Dec 6, 2013
The Ugly American wrote:
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What are you guys talking about?
I love my country questions are for communists!
Wow!

Did you realize it is 2014?

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