Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262554 Nov 21, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
If you watch Kristina Borjesson's new film, TWA Flight 800, you'll see a highly persuasive case that this passenger jet full of passengers was brought down by missiles, killing all on board.
YAWN!

OUTSIDE Blast?

Blast Holes

Investigators reconstructed and analyzed virtually the entire structure of the stricken airliner. The work revealed 196 blast holes in the airplane's structure. So how did the investigators figure that an internal gas tank explosion caused this damage, instead of a missile or bomb?

The NTSB's metallurgists requested that Boeing conduct the tests (and Boeing had no motive to reach the conclusion that a defect in its own equipment, rather than an act of violence, caused the blast). Its engineers created test plates and fired fragments at them at high and low velocities. An antiaircraft missile warhead detonates close to its target, spraying shrapnel at high speeds into the aircraft to destroy it. A bomb made with high-energy explosives would also hurl metal, this time from the inside out, at higher velocities than an inadvertent gas tank detonation.

These tests indicated that high-speed fragments leave particular signs behind, like deformations on the edges and melted parts of the walls of the hole. High-speed impacts leave little surface deformation. In the TWA 800 tests, all but two of the 196 holes exhibited signs of low-velocity penetration, and the remaining two holes showed signs of both. One of these mystery holes—just 3/16-inch diameter—was examined in the Safety Board's Materials Lab. "No evidence of melted and resolidified metal was noted on any portion of the hole wall," the report states.

All the holes near the wing, where the fuel tank that exploded was located, were low-velocity impacts. About 95 percent of the airplane was reconstructed, and the missing parts were too small to hide bomb or missile damage.

To fake these lab results would require a cadre of engineers at Boeing, as well as the NTSB to be in on the conspiracy or be willing to sit quietly as their tests were rigged. Either way, there is a slew of outside voices involved with the tests that could contradict the government's story.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262555 Nov 21, 2013
onemale wrote:
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“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#262556 Nov 21, 2013
Official Story Is Wrong, Say Six Whistleblowers

TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747, took off from JFK International Airport in New York City with 230 people aboard on July 17, 1996, enroute to Paris. Moments later the aircraft exploded, raining debris and humanity off the coast of East Moriches, Long Island. Following a four-year investigation, the federal government's National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), TWA and others declared that the explosion of a fuel tank was caused by faulty wiring that had short-circuited.

'Initially, law enforcement officials believed it was a criminal act'
Almost immediately after the crash, however, reports surfaced that immediately before the explosion dozens of witnesses reported the plane may have been shot down ( http://abcnews.go.com/US/story... ). Per ABC News:

In the days following, nearly 100 of more than 700 eyewitnesses interviewed by the FBI described seeing a streak of light move from the Earth leading to an explosion, which seemed to suggest a missile had struck the Boeing 747.

Initially, law enforcement officials also strongly believed a criminal act - either a bomb or a missile - was the likeliest explanation for the catastrophic explosion, which severed the plane's front end, including the cockpit, from the rest of the fuselage.

In the final NTSB report, however, aviation investigators and the FBI backed away from that theory, saying it just wasn't likely - even though investigators never could determine precisely what caused the explosion.

In their new documentary the six whistleblowers - all from the original crash investigation team including investigators, at the time, from the NTSB, TWA, and the Airline Pilots Association - say the government's explanation was wrong.

http://www.naturalnews.com/040949_twa_flight_...

Read this and Dare To Think For Yourself.

Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#262557 Nov 21, 2013
Six Whistleblowers Say The Official Story Is Wrong

http://www.naturalnews.com/040949_twa_flight_...

"We didn't find any part of the airplane that indicated a mechanical failure," says one of the whistleblowers in the documentary. Rather, they allege that the explosion came from outside the plane.

Besides the missile theory, some believe there may have been a bomb on board Flight 800. But Tom Stalcup, the documentary's co-producer, told CNN there is "solid proof that there was an external detonation."

"Of course, everyone knows about the eyewitness statements, but we also have corroborating information from the radar data, and the radar data shows an asymmetric explosion coming out of that plane - something that didn't happen in the official theory," he said, adding: "Not one single eyewitness was allowed to testify. That's unheard of."

In either case, the whistleblowers believe what did actually happen has been covered up - for years. Former senior accident investigator with the NTSB Hank Hughes is one of them. In a preview of the documentary, he said FBI agents at the time of their investigation were spotted on a surveillance camera in the hanger where the 747 was being reconstructed "in the wee hours of the morning... for purposes unknown."

Drat those pesky fbi guys.

http://www.naturalnews.com/040949_twa_flight_...

Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#262558 Nov 21, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
It's so cool to rage against the machine!
Especially on the internet because there's no real world investment....
Transparently obviously to the most casual observer, this is the One and Only reason you post here pig boy.

Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262559 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Six Whistleblowers Say The Official Story Is Wrong
Besides the missile theory, some believe there may have been a bomb on board Flight 800. But Tom Stalcup, the documentary's co-producer, told CNN there is "solid proof that there was an external detonation."
HUGE YAWN!

Blast Holes

Investigators reconstructed and analyzed virtually the entire structure of the stricken airliner. The work revealed 196 blast holes in the airplane's structure. So how did the investigators figure that an internal gas tank explosion caused this damage, instead of a missile or bomb?

The NTSB's metallurgists requested that Boeing conduct the tests (and Boeing had no motive to reach the conclusion that a defect in its own equipment, rather than an act of violence, caused the blast). Its engineers created test plates and fired fragments at them at high and low velocities. An antiaircraft missile warhead detonates close to its target, spraying shrapnel at high speeds into the aircraft to destroy it. A bomb made with high-energy explosives would also hurl metal, this time from the inside out, at higher velocities than an inadvertent gas tank detonation.

These tests indicated that high-speed fragments leave particular signs behind, like deformations on the edges and melted parts of the walls of the hole. High-speed impacts leave little surface deformation. In the TWA 800 tests, all but two of the 196 holes exhibited signs of low-velocity penetration, and the remaining two holes showed signs of both. One of these mystery holes—just 3/16-inch diameter—was examined in the Safety Board's Materials Lab. "No evidence of melted and resolidified metal was noted on any portion of the hole wall," the report states.

All the holes near the wing, where the fuel tank that exploded was located, were low-velocity impacts. About 95 percent of the airplane was reconstructed, and the missing parts were too small to hide bomb or missile damage.

To fake these lab results would require a cadre of engineers at Boeing, as well as the NTSB to be in on the conspiracy or be willing to sit quietly as their tests were rigged. Either way, there is a slew of outside voices involved with the tests that could contradict the government's story.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262560 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Six Whistleblowers Say The Official Story Is Wrong
http://www.naturalnews.com/040949_twa_flight_...
Natural News, LMFAO! SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT SOURCE, FOR A TWOOFER!

"Proof of Heaven' documents existence of afterlife, multiverse, intelligent life beyond Earth, multidimensional realities"

http://www.naturalnews.com/037917_Proof_of_He...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262561 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
"Not one single eyewitness was allowed to testify. That's unheard of."
FALSE

AND .....

THE AIRCRAFT WAS TWO AND A HALF MILES UP, AND ABOUT NINE MILES OFFSHORE, WHEN IT EXPLODED. THAT PUTS THE COASTLINE JUST ABOUT EXACTLY ONE MINUTE AWAY AT THE SPEED OF SOUND. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE EYEWITNESSES WERE BETWEEN ONE MINUTE AND TWO MINUTES AWAY, AS SOUND TRAVELS. THE MAJORITY OF THE 38 EYEWITNESSES WHO REPORTED A SKYBOUND STREAK THAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED AS A MISSILE TRAIL ONLY TURNED TO LOOK AFTER THEY HEARD THE EXPLOSION. THIS MEANS THAT FOR AT LEAST TWO MINUTES AFTER THE PLANE EXPLODED, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT LOOKED TO MANY EYEWITNESSES LIKE A MISSILE GOING UP. Remember, the majority of people who reported that it looked like a missile struck the aircraft, did not start watching until at least one minute after the explosion happened. Therefore, in most cases of people who said it was absolutely a missile, the laws of physics make it impossible that they could have seen such a missile. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT WHAT THE AIRCRAFT DID ONE MINUTE AFTER IT EXPLODED, LOOKED ENOUGH LIKE A MISSILE TO CONVINCE MANY EYEWITNESSES THAT IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN ANYTHING ELSE. IN ALL OF THESE CASES, WHATEVER THEY SAW HAPPENED AFTER ANY THEORIZED MISSILE WOULD HAVE DETONATED.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#262563 Nov 21, 2013
As usual, being unable to refute the evidence provided you again choose to perform an Ad Hominem attack on the source.

sorry charlie

YAWN

Go back to bed, you're ineffectual here.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/documentary-all...

According to the new documentary, named TWA Flight 800 and premiering on Epix next month, six former members of the official crash investigation have stepped forward to refute the NTSB's findings, saying the crash report was purposefully falsified, and to claim the investigation was "systematically undermined" by federal authorities.

"We didn't find any part of the airplane that indicated a mechanical failure," one of the whistleblowers says in a trailer for the film. The former officials allege the explosion came from outside the plane, though they don't speculate any further on the original source.

Another of the whistleblowers, former senior accident investigator with the NTSB Hank Hughes, said in a preview of the documentary that FBI agents were spotted on surveillance cameras going through the hanger where the crash evidence was kept "in the wee hours of the morning... for purposes unknown."

Some of the previous theories about the crash have been disproven in the years since and Tom Haueter, former director of Aviation Safety at the NTSB, told ABC News today that the former officials in the documentary are wrong. He said that the evidence that the explosion was an internal accident was "irrefutable."

There was "no sign" of penetration from the outside, Haueter said.

The whistleblowers are calling for the NTSB to reopen its investigation, and the NTSB said in a statement today it will reexamine the case if new evidence is presented or "on a showing that the Board's findings are erroneous."

"While the NTSB rarely re-investigates issues that have already been examined, our investigations are never closed and we can review any new information not previously considered by the Board," the NTSB said. "The TWA Flight 800 investigation lasted four years and remains one of the NTSB's most detailed investigations. Investigators took great care reviewing, documenting and analyzing facts and data and held a five-day hearing to gather additional facts before determining the probable cause of the accident during a two-day Board meeting."

In a petition to reconsider the accident sent to the NTSB, the former investigators and family members of the victims claim to have "new and material evidence and analysis that refute the NTSB's original findings."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/documentary-all...

Huh Eh !
Rick not in Kansas yet

Salina, KS

#262564 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
What pray tell is this, "new and material evidence and analysis that refute the NTSB's original findings."? The only thing offered up in your news report is three FBI agents entering the hangar for "unknown purposes" and even that's been heard before. The currently available evidence and analysis is snickering at them, in spite of their qualifications. How about providing a link to their request to re-evaluate the NTSB findings so we might evaluate just what this "new and material evidence and analysis" might be. Right now, I'm on the side of the last paragraph of your article. "Personal self-fulfilling motives by exploiting those who died on TWA800 is nauseating," he said. "It is my personal, as well as my family's position that we have full faith and confidence in the NTSB's final report on TWA800."

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#262565 Nov 21, 2013
Interesting that you bwunkers consider the many eyewitnesses to TWA 800 being hit by a missile to be wrong and all the eyewitnesses that say they saw AA flight 93 fly into the Pentagon are right!

Think about that for a minute and then take your Default Winners Trophy home and place it next to the others you have won.

Huh Eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262566 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
As usual, being unable to refute the evidence provided you again choose to perform an Ad Hominem attack on the source.
STILL YAWNING!

HUGE YAWN!

Blast Holes

Investigators reconstructed and analyzed virtually the entire structure of the stricken airliner. The work revealed 196 blast holes in the airplane's structure. So how did the investigators figure that an internal gas tank explosion caused this damage, instead of a missile or bomb?

The NTSB's metallurgists requested that Boeing conduct the tests (and Boeing had no motive to reach the conclusion that a defect in its own equipment, rather than an act of violence, caused the blast). Its engineers created test plates and fired fragments at them at high and low velocities. An antiaircraft missile warhead detonates close to its target, spraying shrapnel at high speeds into the aircraft to destroy it. A bomb made with high-energy explosives would also hurl metal, this time from the inside out, at higher velocities than an inadvertent gas tank detonation.

These tests indicated that high-speed fragments leave particular signs behind, like deformations on the edges and melted parts of the walls of the hole. High-speed impacts leave little surface deformation. In the TWA 800 tests, all but two of the 196 holes exhibited signs of low-velocity penetration, and the remaining two holes showed signs of both. One of these mystery holes—just 3/16-inch diameter—was examined in the Safety Board's Materials Lab. "No evidence of melted and resolidified metal was noted on any portion of the hole wall," the report states.

All the holes near the wing, where the fuel tank that exploded was located, were low-velocity impacts. About 95 percent of the airplane was reconstructed, and the missing parts were too small to hide bomb or missile damage.

To fake these lab results would require a cadre of engineers at Boeing, as well as the NTSB to be in on the conspiracy or be willing to sit quietly as their tests were rigged. Either way, there is a slew of outside voices involved with the tests that could contradict the government's story.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#262567 Nov 21, 2013
Rick not in Kansas yet wrote:
<quoted text>What pray tell is this, "new and material evidence and analysis that refute the NTSB's original findings."? The only thing offered up in your news report is three FBI agents entering the hangar for "unknown purposes" and even that's been heard before. The currently available evidence and analysis is snickering at them, in spite of their qualifications. How about providing a link to their request to re-evaluate the NTSB findings so we might evaluate just what this "new and material evidence and analysis" might be. Right now, I'm on the side of the last paragraph of your article. "Personal self-fulfilling motives by exploiting those who died on TWA800 is nauseating," he said. "It is my personal, as well as my family's position that we have full faith and confidence in the NTSB's final report on TWA800."
If you read carefully you will find:

"But according to the new documentary, named TWA Flight 800 and premiering on Epix next month, six former members of the official crash investigation have stepped forward to refute the NTSB's findings, saying the crash report was purposefully falsified, and to claim the investigation was "systematically undermined" by federal authorities."

So if you want to find out what they are talking about obviously you will have to wait till "next month" and watch the movie.

Oh and it's not My news report. I simply showed it to you. If you look closely it was written by someone else.

If you don't want to read these things. Don't.

Huh Eh !

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#262569 Nov 21, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
Natural News, LMFAO! SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT SOURCE, FOR A TWOOFER!
"Proof of Heaven' documents existence of afterlife, multiverse, intelligent life beyond Earth, multidimensional realities"
http://www.naturalnews.com/037917_Proof_of_He...
ALSO SEE: www.911scholars.org
www.wtc7.net
and John 3:16
End Obama Now!
Rick not in Kansas yet

Salina, KS

#262570 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Interesting that you bwunkers consider the many eyewitnesses to TWA 800 being hit by a missile to be wrong and all the eyewitnesses that say they saw AA flight 93 fly into the Pentagon are right!
Think about that for a minute and then take your Default Winners Trophy home and place it next to the others you have won.
Huh Eh !
I realize that logic and reason are frowned upon concepts in your neck of the woods, but let me take a shot anyways. SOME of the witnesses, not all, not even most, to the tragic end to TWA 800, claim they saw something/missile. In the case of AA 93, ALL of the witness statements agree that they saw a jet. You do get the difference, don't you?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262571 Nov 21, 2013
BUT LETS SAY I ROLL WITH NUTTY!

In "TWA Flight 800," physicist Tom Stalcup, who investigated the crash on his own and conducts many of the interviews, joins six members of the official crash investigation to try and prove that three missiles brought the 747 jet down.

HIT with THREE MISSILES?

Since impact times would be different what did the #2 and #3 hit?

http://www.businessinsider.com/flight-twa-800...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#262572 Nov 21, 2013
Word wrote:
How was Osama bin Laden supposed to allow the 4 hijacked planes permission to fly over 8 US air bases? How did the Arab hijackers board Flight 77 at Dulles without tickets, boarding passes and being recorded by the passenger area video cameras?
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/jeky...
LMFAO, What a link!

Jekyll Island, The JFK Assassination And 911. Three American Coups
Rick not in Kansas yet

Salina, KS

#262573 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
If you read carefully you will find:
"But according to the new documentary, named TWA Flight 800 and premiering on Epix next month, six former members of the official crash investigation have stepped forward to refute the NTSB's findings, saying the crash report was purposefully falsified, and to claim the investigation was "systematically undermined" by federal authorities."
So if you want to find out what they are talking about obviously you will have to wait till "next month" and watch the movie.
Oh and it's not My news report. I simply showed it to you. If you look closely it was written by someone else.
If you don't want to read these things. Don't.
Huh Eh !
Been there, done that and still see no "new and material evidence and analysis" in those statements. They are the same arguments that have been offered since someone first came up with the idea that it might have been a missile. You are claiming a documentary that you haven't seen, by a group of people you have done absolutely no research into their claims of "new and material evidence and analysis" as gospel truth. And the sheep says, baaaaaa.
Rick not in Kansas yet

Salina, KS

#262574 Nov 21, 2013
Word wrote:
How was Osama bin Laden supposed to allow the 4 hijacked planes permission to fly over 8 US air bases? How did the Arab hijackers board Flight 77 at Dulles without tickets, boarding passes and being recorded by the passenger area video cameras?
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/jeky...
Did you actually read your little article before you offered it to us as "proof"? If you did, I can only feel sorry for you. It's sad how some folk can be so easily led into some seriously ugly ignorance.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#262575 Nov 21, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>Transparently obviously to the most casual observer, this is the One and Only reason you post here pig boy.

Huh Eh !
Sorry oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS, my deluded idiot to English translator is on the fritz!

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