Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#261921 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Its 12 years after 9/11 now, if you can't see that it was an inside job you're a dangerous human being.
After 12 years, if you still think twoof has any validity you are a very, very stupid human being.
Pegasus

Marcus Hook, PA

#261922 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
A True Patriot
Dr. Robert Bowman PhD.
Summarizes the Left - Right Paradigm...
"..both the left and the right have been alienated and mistreated by our government and the powers that be..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =dI4NxDDiPc0XX
Never mind Bowman......give that moron a soapbox and the fool would still be standing on it yammering away with not another soul around....in the height of a hurricane.

By the way drum up that goddamn footage of Atta.....you're not going to weasel your way out of it Peewee.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261923 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
What Happened to the Planes and Passengers on 9/11?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ue-MLMnlTzYXX
No Planes, No Brains!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261924 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
What Happened to the Planes and Passengers on 9/11?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ue-MLMnlTzYXX
What happened to a link?

onemale wrote:
<quoted text> 6 weeks later Mohamed Atta stood up and was alive in front of cameras at a Saudi Arabia television station!!
Link or Lie?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261925 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
And now in 2013, the 99% are letting the 1% take away our rights.
That's just the effects of your lack of education vs the needs of the workplace.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261926 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you a government operative??? You sound just like them.
LOL, Hide under your bed!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261927 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh so that explains the reported explosions before the jet impact?
And explains how the lobby was blown up?
And explains how the subway was blown up?
And the explosions in the basement?
Sorry we are not that naive.
Go back to insults, something you are more qualified for.
All explained, The basement, which Willie are you talking about?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261928 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Israel have nuked Syria more than once in the last two years. Three times.
HI TOM!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261929 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Bill Cooper Radio Broadcast 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rf7xHh2BhEYXX
Behold a Pale Horse

Cooper produced and published Behold a Pale Horse in 1991.[5] The book has been influential among "UFO and militia circles".[8] Just prior to the trial of Terry Nichols in 1997, The Guardian described it as "the manifesto of the militia movement".[9]

According to sociologist Paul Gilroy, Cooper claimed "an elaborate conspiracy theory that encompasses the Kennedy assassination, the doings of the secret world government, the coming ice age, and a variety of other covert activities associated with the Illuminati's declaration of war upon the people of America".[5] Political scientist Michael Barkun characterized it as "among the most complex superconspiracy theories", and also among the most influential due to its popularity in militia circles as well as mainstream bookstores.[6] Historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke described the book as a "chaotic farrago of conspiracy myths interspersed with reprints of executive laws, official papers, reports and other extraneous materials designed to show the looming prospect of a world government imposed on the American people against their wishes and in flagrant contempt of the Constitution."[10]
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261930 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Bill Cooper Radio Broadcast 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rf7xHh2BhEYXX
HIV/AIDS

In Behold a Pale Horse Cooper proposed that AIDS was the result of a conspiracy to decrease the populations of blacks, Hispanics, and homosexuals.[7] In 2000 South Africa's Minister of Health Manto Tshabalala-Msimang received criticism for distributing the chapter discussing this theory to senior South African government officials.[11] Nicoli Nattrass, a longtime critic of AIDS denialists, criticized Tshabalala-Msimang for lending legitimacy to Cooper's theories and disseminating them in Africa.[8]
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261931 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Bill Cooper Radio Broadcast 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rf7xHh2BhEYXX
UFOs, aliens and the Illuminati

Cooper caused a sensation in UFOlogy circles in 1988 when he claimed to have seen secret documents while in the Navy describing governmental dealings with extraterrestrial aliens, a topic he expanded on in Behold a Pale Horse.[6](By one account he served as a "low level clerk" in the Navy, and as such would not have had the security clearance needed to access classified documents.[12]) UFOlogists later asserted that some of the material that Cooper claimed to have seen in naval intelligence documents was actually plagiarized verbatim from their research—including several items that the UFOlogists had fabricated as pranks.[13] Don Ecker of UFO Magazine ran a series of exposés on Cooper in 1990.[14]

Cooper linked the Illuminati with his beliefs that extraterrestrials were secretly involved with the US government, but later retracted these claims. He accused Dwight D. Eisenhower of negotiating a treaty with extraterrestrials in 1954, then establishing an inner circle of Illuminati to manage relations with them and keep their presence a secret from the general public. Cooper believed that aliens "manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religions, magic, witchcraft, and the occult", and that even the Illuminati were unknowingly being manipulated by them.[6]

Cooper described the Illuminati as a secret international organization, controlled by the Bilderberg Group, that conspired with the Knights of Columbus, Masons, Skull and Bones, and other organizations. Its ultimate goal, he said, was the establishment of a New World Order. According to Cooper the Illuminati conspirators not only invented alien threats for their own gain, but actively conspired with extraterrestrials to take over the world.[6] Cooper believed that James Forrestal's fatal fall from a window on the sixteenth floor of Bethesda Hospital was connected to the alleged secret committee Majestic-12, and that JASON advisory group scientists reported to an elite group of Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations executive committee members who were high-ranking members of the Illuminati.[2][3]

Cooper also claimed that the Protocols of Zion was actually an Illuminati work, and instructed readers to substitute "Sion" for "Zion", "Illuminati" for "Jews", and "cattle" for "Goyim".
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261932 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Bill Cooper Radio Broadcast 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rf7xHh2BhEYXX
Kennedy assassination

In Behold a Pale Horse, Cooper asserted that John F. Kennedy was assassinated because he was about to reveal that extraterrestrials were in the process of taking over the Earth. According to a "top secret" video of the assassination that Cooper claimed to have discovered, the driver of Kennedy's limousine, William Greer, used “a gas pressure device developed by aliens from the Trilateral Commission” to shoot the president from the driver's seat.[12] The Zapruder film shows Greer twice turning to look into the back seat of the car; Cooper theorized that Greer first turned to assess Kennedy's status after the external attack, and then to fire the fatal shot. Conspiracy theories implicating Greer reportedly "snowballed" after publication of Behold a Pale Horse.[17] Cooper's video purporting to prove his theory was analyzed by several television stations, according to one source, and was found to be "... a poor-quality fake using chunks of the ... Zapruder film."[12]
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261933 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Bill Cooper Radio Broadcast 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rf7xHh2BhEYXX
AND A BIG SHOCK!

Death

As Cooper moved away from the UFOlogy community in the late 1990s and toward the militia and anti-government group subculture, he became convinced that he was being personally targeted by President Bill Clinton and the IRS. In July 1998 he was charged with tax evasion and an arrest warrant was issued but not executed, resulting in his being named a "major fugitive" by the US Marshals Service in 2000.[6]

On November 5, 2001 Apache County sheriff's deputies attempted to arrest Cooper at his Eagar, Arizona home on charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and endangerment stemming from earlier disputes with local residents. After an exchange of gunfire during which Cooper shot one of the deputies in the head, Cooper was fatally shot. Federal authorities reported that Cooper had spent years trying to avoid capture on the 1998 tax evasion arrest warrant, and according to a spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service, he had vowed that "he would not be taken alive".[1]

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Since: Jul 11

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#261934 Nov 5, 2013
Stay inside, sit in your wheelchair and type furiously all day long sorry charlie. Its good for you. Or are you cut n pasting?

Link or Lie

Got any PROOF of all that SPAM? LOL

Huh eh !
hunter

Norwich, UK

#261936 Nov 5, 2013
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>Take a thimble of gasoline and set it off, right away you will see rich black smoke as it burns.....why because gasoline is loaded with hydrocarbons.
Jet fuel commonly known as Jet-A is more of a highly refined kerosene also loaded with hydrocarbons .....more than gasoline.
Steel need not melt to fail.
Strip away the fireproofing on LOAD carrying bar joists and introduce a fire where the flames do not have to lick at the bar joists but increase the heat dramatically and through the steel wanting to slowly expand the steel will also start to soften.
I often wonder if harmonic frequency played any part in complete building damage well before either of the two twins dropped.
A jet airliner of approx 200 tons or 400,000 pounds striking a building of that size must have sent shock-wave from point of contact......downward, upward......downward....upward .....having some critical effect overall.
The towers were fireproofed with asbestos,
the towers were constructed to take the impact of possibly two jet airliners.
There was no way the heat generated would have weakened the steel.
What about the woman who was standing waving out of the whole of impact? What's your answer on this. Please don't say it was a figment of our imagination .
YOU still keep avoiding BUILDING 7!
HELLO! BUILDING 7
Don't keep rambling on with typical STOOGE answers!
TRY thinking for yourself and not what you have been programmed to do!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261937 Nov 5, 2013
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>
The towers were fireproofed with asbestos,
the towers were constructed to take the impact of possibly two jet airliners.
There was no way the heat generated would have weakened the steel.
What about the woman who was standing waving out of the whole of impact? What's your answer on this. Please don't say it was a figment of our imagination .
YOU still keep avoiding BUILDING 7!
HELLO! BUILDING 7
Don't keep rambling on with typical STOOGE answers!
TRY thinking for yourself and not what you have been programmed to do!
PICK ONE and I shall debunk it.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#261938 Nov 5, 2013
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>
the towers were constructed to take the impact of possibly two jet airliners.
They did survive the impact.

But NOT TWO PLANES, One flying slow in the fog but not the fires, this would be directly from the person who both did the study and designed the towers.

Robertson took the time to calculate how well his towers would handle the impact from a Boeing 707, the largest jetliner in service at the time. He says that his calculations assumed a plane lost in a fog while searching for an airport at relatively low speed, like the B-25 bomber. He concluded that the towers would remain standing despite the force of the impact and the hole it would punch out. The new technologies he had installed after the motion experiments and wind-tunnel work had created a structure more than strong enough to withstand such a blow.

Exactly how Robertson performed these calculations is apparently lost -- he says he cannot find a copy of the report. Several engineers who worked with him at the time, including the director of his computer department, say they have no recollection of ever seeing the study. But the Port Authority, eager to mount a counterattack against Wien, seized on the results -- and may in fact have exaggerated them. One architect working for the Port Authority issued a statement to the press, covered in a prominent article in The Times, explaining that Robertson's study proved that the towers could withstand the impact of a jetliner moving at 600 miles an hour. That was perhaps three times the speed that Robertson had considered. If Robertson saw the article in the paper, he never spoke up about the discrepancy. No one else issued a correction, and the question was answered in many people's minds: the towers were as safe as could be expected, even in the most cataclysmic of circumstances.

There were only two problems. The first, of course, was that no study of the impact of a 600-mile-an-hour plane ever existed.''That's got nothing to do with the reality of what we did,'' Robertson snapped when shown the Port Authority architect's statement more than three decades later. The second problem was that no one thought to take into account the fires that would inevitably break out when the jetliner's fuel exploded, exactly as the B-25's had. And if Wien was the trade center's Cassandra, fire protection would become its Achilles' heel.

http://scott-juris.blogspot.com
/The%20Height%20of%20Ambition% 20Part%20Four.pdf

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#261940 Nov 5, 2013
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>
The towers were fireproofed with asbestos,
the towers were constructed to take the impact of possibly two jet airliners.
There was no way the heat generated would have weakened the steel.
What about the woman who was standing waving out of the whole of impact? What's your answer on this. Please don't say it was a figment of our imagination .
YOU still keep avoiding BUILDING 7!
HELLO! BUILDING 7
Don't keep rambling on with typical STOOGE answers!
TRY thinking for yourself and not what you have been programmed to do!
If what you are thinking, is what you call thinking for yourself.
Then you need adult supervision and professional help.
Because what you actually are doing is....
Parroting a sub culture of quasi religion like conspiracy freaks that have the understanding of grade school kids and are a lunatic following of zombie like little minions that believe anything but the truth. Parroting the likes of Judy Woods and other fringe freaks that are cashing in on your stupidity.

Go get some education kid!

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#261942 Nov 5, 2013
h3kt0r wrote:
Its a f**kin disgrace that 9/11 is still a matter of debate. Don't give government shills the time.
You want to spend more money investigation what exactly? Who would be in charge of such an investigation.

Stop taking drugs dude.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#261943 Nov 5, 2013
onemale wrote:
What Happened to the Planes and Passengers on 9/11?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ue-MLMnlTzYXX
They got destroyed.

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