Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#261814 Nov 3, 2013
Barbara Honegger, military affairs journalist and former White House policy analyst, writes NORAD's

Gen. Larry Arnold, revealed that he ordered one of his jets to fly down low over the Pentagon shortly after the attack that morning, and that his pilot reported back that there was no evidence that a plane had hit the building.

Publicly available photos support these statements by Jamie McIntyre, Ed Plaugher, Karen Kwiatkowski, and Barbara Honegger.

Questions about what hit the Pentagon on September 11, continued to be raised at the Dept. of Defense News Briefing on September 15, 2001.

One thing that's confusing - if it came in the way you described, at an angle, why then are not the wings outside? I mean, the wings would have shorn off. The tail would have shorn off. And yet there's apparently no evidence of the aircraft outside the E ring.

impacted facade
Hole reported made by a Boeing 757

The hole in the Pentagon wall - prior to the collapse of the roof - appears much too small to accomodate a Boeing 757. If only the front end penetrated the Pentagon, then the wings, a portion of the fuselage, and tail would have remained outside. But no large debris - anything resembling the Boeing 757 wings, fuselage, or tail - is visible on the Pentagon lawn, and the lawn itself shows no sign that a Boeing 757 skidded across it or struck it.

The engines of the Boeing 757 would have survived the impact and heat. An engine from a plane that struck the World Trade Center was shown on network television, and so was an engine from American Airlines Flight 587 which crashed shortly after takeoff from New York on November 12, 2001.

One photo from the Pentagon crash site shows what could be an engine part about 30 inches in diameter outside the Pentagon. Another photo shows what could be an engine part (its size is difficult to determine) inside the Pentagon. Were these parts, and another piece of debris on the Pentagon lawn traced to Flight 77?

Only the FBI knows and they ain't talking.

According to George Nelson, Colonel, USAF (ret.), serial numbers on aircraft parts could confirm the plane's identity. But the FBI has refused to make that evidence available to the public.

Just like they confiscated all the video cameras in the immediate vicinity and will not show any footage they found of a 757 flying into the Pentagon.

National security or some such obvious excuse.

How convenient for the govie.

Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#261815 Nov 3, 2013
A lot of things don't make any sense to you pig boy. But then pigs aren't known for making sense unless of course you count eating shit and preferring to play in the mud.

pig boy, making no sense of official nonsense for a long time now.

Huh eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#261816 Nov 3, 2013
According to George Nelson, Colonel, USAF (ret.), serial numbers on aircraft parts could confirm the plane's identity. But the FBI has refused to make that evidence available to the public.

Another question put to Chief Plaugher at the briefing was:

Chief, there are small pieces of the plane virtually all over, out over the highway, tiny pieces. Would you say the plane exploded, virtually exploded on impact due to the fuel...

Plaugher responded: "I'd rather not comment on that." How did "small pieces of the plane" end up "out over the highway" when the plane is reported to have disintegrated inside the Pentagon after it crossed the highway? If it disintegrated outside the Pentagon why is there nothing that looks like a Boeing 757 on the Pentagon lawn? If it disintegrated either inside or outside the Pentagon what caused the hole in C-ring?

exit hole
What made this hole in C-ring?

When asked, "Have you removed the bodies?" Chief Plaugher replied, "We have no information on any type of casualty or body counts at this time."

National news media, particularly Jamie McIntyre, failed to follow up on Chief Plaugher's comment that "there's no fuselage sections and that sort of thing" when dozens of onlookers, relatives, and firefighters were interviewed on network television about the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center.

Photos and videos of the Pentagon reveal yet more curious sights: a trailer, light poles, and a highway sign in front of the damaged area still intact after a Boeing 757 is alleged to have flown through there; office furniture and a computer monitor which survived the fire that is alleged to have vaporized the Boeing 757, but left human bodies in good enough condition to be indentified; two men in white shirts and ties rushing to pick up pieces of whatever struck the Pentagon; "50 FBI officers" walking "shoulder-to-shoulder across the south grounds of the Pentagon, picking up debris and stuffing it into brown bags."

The Pentagon crash may be the only commercial airline crash in modern history in which most of the available evidence has been withheld from the public. What is available looks remarkably different from other crash sites. Reporters on the scene were denied access, and "handcuffed and dragged away".

There goes that pesky national security excuse again.

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0307-Pentagon.h...

Huh Eh !
Pegasus

Newark, NJ

#261817 Nov 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
You can claim a plane sized hole was left in the Pentagon but you can't claim the wreckage of a plane was also left there.
Quote from:
CNN's senior Pentagon correspondent at the Pentagon
Just minutes after the attack, standing in front of the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, Jamie McIntyre, CNN's senior Pentagon correspondent since November 1992, reported:
From my close up inspection there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon..... The only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you could pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage - nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon.... It wasn't till about 45 minutes later ... that all of the floors collapsed.
Arlington County Fire Chief Ed Plaugher, incident commander at the Pentagon on September 11, corroborates Jamie McIntyre's report. At the September 12, 2001, DoD briefing, when asked: "Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?" said: "there are some small pieces of aircraft ... there's no fuselage sections and that sort of thing."
In response to another question: "Chief, there are small pieces of the plane virtually all over, out over the highway, tiny pieces. Would you say the plane exploded, virtually exploded on impact due to the fuel", Plaugher responded: "You know, I'd rather not comment on that."
Quote from:
Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, who from her fifth-floor, B-ring office at the Pentagon, witnessed "an unforgettable fireball, 20 to 30 feet in diameter," was called for stretcher duty as she and others
stared in disbelief at a smoking gash in the Pentagon ... But no person or thing emerged from that side of the Pentagon. We heard that survivors and injured folks were being recued from the inside,... and out the River exit into ambulances.
There was, writes Kwiatkowski,
a strange absence of airliner debris, there was no sign of the kind of damage to the Pentagon structure one would expect from the impact of a large airliner. This visible evidence or lack thereof may also have been apparent to the secretary of defense, who in an unfortunate slip of the tongue referred to the aircraft that slammed into the Pentagon as a 'missile'.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0307-Pentagon.h...
Huh Eh !
Quite a difference in the facades between that of the Pentagon and those of the Twins.

Let us not forget the vast difference in height between the Pentagon and the WTC's.

Zorderz ask yourself how fast a little crew of government agents/stagehands/roadies would have to throw all that debris around with a shitload of witnesses who would have to be in on it.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#261818 Nov 3, 2013
Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, "The War On Truth: 9/11, Disinformation And The Anatomy Of Terrorism," Olive Branch Press (April 15, 2005)

[In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft - and in most cases the precise cause of the accident.

(Oh but in this case the bwunkers cry it wasn't an accident so we don't have to positively identify anything you sheeple schmuck suckers.)

This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight.

That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers.

Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling....

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft.

On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view.

(All in the name of national security or some such phoney govie drivel.)

The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items--George Nelson Colonel, USAF (ret.), "911 and the Precautionary Principle: Aircraft Parts as a Clue to their Identity," Physics911.net , April 23, 2005]

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0307-Pentagon.h...

Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#261819 Nov 3, 2013
It's quite easy to say a plane, AA 77 to be specific, hit the Pentagon since Mamyfails himself has posted (re-posted through utter stupidity) the proof that the plane parts were consistent with THE plane in question and as Aura pointed out, the fdr found at site proves it was AA 77.

Oh but you have old debunked myths,

Oh elevator boy-sheep YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#261820 Nov 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
You can claim a plane sized hole was left in the Pentagon but you can't claim the wreckage of a plane was also left there.

In response to another question: "Chief, there are small pieces of the plane virtually all over, out over the highway, tiny pieces. Would you say the plane exploded, virtually exploded on impact due to the fuel", Plaugher responded: "You know, I'd rather not comment on that."

Huh Eh !
Huh eh?

Wow!

Another self debunking idjit!

Oh elevator boy-sheep!!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#261821 Nov 3, 2013
It's easy to say it, but you can't prove it. Now can you pig boy?

The fdr information came from the FBI. The same organization that confiscated all the video cameras in the name of national security.

Oh but you certainly believe them without question don't you? They spoon feed you the same old shit and you lap it up. Its easier than having your own opinion about things you know nothing about.

Huh Eh ! pig boy

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

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#261822 Nov 3, 2013
That Dr. Zorders....what a whacky human.
Some velvet sidewalk

Groveland, CA

#261824 Nov 3, 2013
Hi Doc.

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

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#261825 Nov 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
It's easy to say it, but you can't prove it. Now can you pig boy?
The fdr information came from the FBI. The same organization that confiscated all the video cameras in the name of national security.
Oh but you certainly believe them without question don't you? They spoon feed you the same old shit and you lap it up. Its easier than having your own opinion about things you know nothing about.
Huh Eh ! pig boy
You capitalized "FBI", but not "fdr", care to explain?
Pegasus

Newark, NJ

#261826 Nov 3, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
It's easy to say it, but you can't prove it. Now can you pig boy?
The fdr information came from the FBI. The same organization that confiscated all the video cameras in the name of national security.
Oh but you certainly believe them without question don't you? They spoon feed you the same old shit and you lap it up. Its easier than having your own opinion about things you know nothing about.
Huh Eh ! pig boy
You sure are one mixed up kid, remember because I realize you like to forget that the burden of proof is upon your shoulders.

If you jokers who believe in conspiracy all got yourselves a paper route you could pool all your dough together and hand it over to a law firm that would make you look more the suckers than you are now.

Hehehehe..he.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261828 Nov 3, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
NEWS FLASH FOR MINDLESS TWOOFERS!!!!
The cause of the crash was known therefore an investigation into WHAT caused the crash was POINTLESS!
Just like twoof, POINTLESS!
But what happened to nine of the wheels???
The tires could have burned but metal does not burn.
Around 30 years ago I made a wood burning stove, all that has been changed are the liners the rest if the stove is still in use today.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261829 Nov 3, 2013
Hey pig, since you and your buddies made this site into an insult contest:
How about that pig roast? You'll be the guest of honor. Guaranteed!!!
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261830 Nov 3, 2013
Pigs are made to sizzle.
I know I shouldn't do this but you started it.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261831 Nov 3, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
It's really the only angle a twoofer can play while avoiding the fact that a plane sized hole was left in the Pentagon and it would make absolutely no sense to "switch" planes...one 757 for another.
Twoofers just like dancing away from evidence so they can avoid reality.
And you are the one who said the hole in the Pentagon was the exit hole when there was nothing big enough to make the hole. That in itself debunks you your ass.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261832 Nov 3, 2013
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>Speak for yourself moron.
How is that footage of Atta coming along.
So what are your credentials?
I'll trust a true patriotic with 3 degrees in engineering.
With over a thousand of experts like this, why in the blue hell do you think I would listen to you???
Pegasus

Washington, DC

#261833 Nov 3, 2013
Commander Bunny wrote:
That Dr. Zorders....what a whacky human.
You mean "Nexra" of course.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#261834 Nov 3, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
But what happened to nine of the wheels???
The tires could have burned but metal does not burn.
Around 30 years ago I made a wood burning stove, all that has been changed are the liners the rest if the stove is still in use today.
Hello Magnesium, Titanium and aluminum all burn, very hot too.
In fact metal fires are the worst, because water excites it and makes it worse.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261835 Nov 3, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
Has anyone gone to the Dr. Bowman link?
The video starts out claiming to have "Explosive Evidence."
The guy anounces himself as "Dr. Bowman," which is supposed to really impress us. Then he goes on to explain about all his combat missions which are totally irrelevant. Then he directed DOD Star Wars programs under Ford and Carter. Equally irrelevant. Then his PhD in aeronautics and nuclear engineering, also irrelevant. He goes on with more academic achievements. Jump ahead, he asked his wife where are the interceptors over and over again. This would be a fair question for a novice, but for a man with the military background which he claims should already have known the answer which is in the chain of command and the length of response times as well as procedural meaning we had no plan of action against hijacked civilian airliners. Rather surprising coming from an ex-military man of his stature.
Then he jumped into talking about the building collapses and the laws of physics. He jumped to a conclusion that it couldn't happen without any examination of the construction or the facts. Simply an unfounded opinion based upon his intellect. He claimed the aircraft and fires could not collapse the buildings based solely upon his opinions. Then he went on like average morons saying that building 7 proved his theory correct. Again, without any examination of evidence or testimony from the people who were there. He signed the petition based upon hearing news broadcasts and his opinions. He fell into what is commonly referred too as the intelligence trap. He never did his homework.
I'm sorry. This guy has been in academics too long. He is a windbag who fails to examine things the way he was probably taught. What a pity. He disgraces the academic world by jumping to false conclusions.
ou can't find any link debunking him so you make something up.
Do you really think people can't see through you?
When you can't debunk a link, it ticks you off doesn’t it?
Moreover the link debunks your ass.

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