Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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Since: Dec 10

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#261613 Oct 29, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Exactly.
Look up the scientific method and perhaps you will grasp what Im saying.
Insults Are Easier
Being your assertion is as hollow as the evidence, it means you've nothing but conjecture.

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#261614 Oct 30, 2013
onemale wrote:
Bush Admits Lying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tSBgGXoNgrQXX
Everyone knows Bush told lies, forgot things and was a general bumbler. How does any of this indicate some massive conspiracy? You really think Bush would be a capable conspirator? I seriously doubt that.

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Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#261615 Oct 30, 2013
onemale wrote:
Bush Admits Lying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tSBgGXoNgrQXX
A politician lying..OMFG

Tell me something.
Bill clinton couldn't even get a headjob on the sly without getting busted,and there were only two involved, so how did GWB pull 911 off with out one single leak?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#261616 Oct 30, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Many airplanes will be used for different ’flights’ out of airports each day. "A particular aircraft may fly several different flights in one day, and different aircraft may be used for the same flight number on successive days." Source
Flight number (or flight code) is different from the plane identification number. It would take a short investigation to match a particular plane with a flight route that day.
Further, almost every single part on an airplane, down to the tiniest component, has identifying marks or serial numbers. This is industry standard, and certainly was the case on 9/11. It should be no problem to put together a forensic investigation with the remaining airplane parts to match up the parts with the planes with the flight numbers.

And yet, Boeing insists this is impossible.

Firstly, who is giving out this statement from Boeing, and secondly, why aren’t these details important to either Boeing, the police, or the relatives of victims who died on 9/11?

Perhaps it’s a can of worms that officials do not want to open, so it’s deemed "impossible".

What happens if they read the serial numbers on the parts, cross reference it with the numbers that were supposed to be on the planes from the day of the attack, and find they don’t match?

If they do match, well that’s evidence to make a case for the official story. If they DON’T match however, that leads to questions about which planes exactly impacted the Twin Towers that day? If not the Boeing planes that were allegedly carrying passengers booked on Flights 11 and 175, then which?

There are some researchers who theorize that the original planes carrying the passengers booked on 11 and 175 took off as expected from the corresponding gates, but different planes impacted the towers.

The key to this comes with the fact that the plane’s transponders (electronic location device) were turned off mid-flight. The official story says the hijackers did this to go ’invisible’ to radar.

On the PilotsFor911Truth forum, pilots speculate on this by suggesting:

"I believe that a more likely explanation is that the 3020 and 3321 transponder codes were part of a multiple plane, "Northwoods" scenario ’swap’ where two planes occupy the same radar ’space’-- one descends to land, one continues. in this scenario, UA175 is not the craft that hits the towers. a different aircraft is the one seen in the videos, but , per "northwoods" painted as in the livery of the commercial craft."

Ultimately, the way to prove or disprove this theory is by investigating the part number - indeed ALL the part numbers from the pieces of evidence that were gathered from the crime scene. Something that officials call ’impossible’.

A commenter, "Rebel", on the AP story provided his take on what Boeing had to say about it:

"I work for a tiny aerospace supplier that makes non-flight-critical aircraft components and we - and the aircraft completion facility that buys our stuff -[are] required by the FAA to keep meticulous records so that between us, even a circuit panel inside a single button switch panel used to turn on a coffee pot in the back of the plane can be matched to a particular plane.

But this can only happen if everybody is willing to co-operate. And no one is co-operating on this point of matching the serial numbers of wreckage debris found at the crime scene to maintenance records.

So the only conclusion any sane inquisitive person can come up with is:

"They’re lying."

http://redicecreations.com/article.php...

Huh Eh !
More mindless cut and paste word salad from oh elevator boy-sheep 30 pilots YOUNG EARTH CREATIONIST STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Well when you don't have anything to say yourself or evidence to support you, serve salad!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#261617 Oct 30, 2013
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>Still abusing and ridiculing i see.What qualification's really do you have?
You would not know what true evidence was if it hit you in the face!

Oh Porkfart,
You are just a little stooge SHITHEAD!
With all the comment's you have posted,You still have'nt
convinced one person.

A bit of a waste of time,Don't you think!
More along the lines of pointing and laughing but hey, thanks for the irony dipsht!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#261618 Oct 30, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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He also can't be manipulated into playing ball with the official story to further his career or go along with what is politically expedient, now that he is deceased.

So it cuts both ways.
No failure, it certainly doesn't "cut both ways".

#1 You lied and claimed he was a designer which her certainly was not. He was construction manager of an existing building he neither helped build nor design.

#2 He's an architect. As is always the case, you're most likely completely ignorant to the role an architect plays in the design of buildings.

Architects are not structural engineers and their purpose is aethstetics, not engineer the structure. Do are architects have a basic knowledge of structural engineering? Yes, they must. Can architects make off the cuff remarks that negate the lead engineering designers in depth knowledge? Only in twooferdumb.

Leslie Robertson's commentary on what the building was designed to withstand was made via his very in depth knowledge of the structures as the person that either did the majority of the engineering itself, or reviewed then signed off on it.

Frank DiMartini's is based on a hunch.

Hunches don't generally include the kinds of calculations Robertson did and was privy to in regards to the design of the towers.

This is just another example of low life morons like yourself grasping desperately at straws and telling lies you hope will convince others dumb and gullible enough to fall for a facade of truth but and smart enough to actually verify it themselves.

DiMartini was not a designer.

DiMartini based his statement on thin air.

The towers did withstand the force of impact.

You, as always, haven't got a point that helps you in anyway shape or form.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#261619 Oct 30, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Planes can crash taking off or landing, and the architect I linked said he believed two fully loaded 707's could impact each tower. Fully loaded in aviation refers to total weight including passengers, cargo, and fuel. A fully loaded aircraft has full fuel tanks.

But you pretend architects just draw pictures without working side by side with engineers to complete projects, as you pretend every engineer is beyond reproach, as long as they support your agenda.

Statistically, planes are far more likely to crash on take-off then landing, but you readily believe one quote by an engineer because it fits your preconceived belief that everything a government says is true. You worship authority, because you were taught to.

The idea that designers only considered a landing aircraft without fuel in a building so tall defies logic. But one must have logic to know it, and you have none.
More of your "let's go on a pointless tangent idiocy"!

It didn't defy any logic since the scenario was based on the reality of it happening at the Empire State Building the consideration wasn't based on statistics but a very real fear.

Regardless, your ignorant, pointless tangent ignores that the lead engineer on the project t has already supported my claim and debunked yours.

Although that's not entirely accurate. It's more along the lines of me doing research into how the towers were constructed and what considerations were taken into account and you mindlessly spewing twoofer canards then lying about DiMartini being a designer of the towers...because twoof is just a lie that can only be defended by telling more lies all told by liars like you!

Good luck with that!
Pegasus

Bronx, NY

#261621 Oct 30, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>More of your "let's go on a pointless tangent idiocy"!
It didn't defy any logic since the scenario was based on the reality of it happening at the Empire State Building the consideration wasn't based on statistics but a very real fear.
Regardless, your ignorant, pointless tangent ignores that the lead engineer on the project t has already supported my claim and debunked yours.
Although that's not entirely accurate. It's more along the lines of me doing research into how the towers were constructed and what considerations were taken into account and you mindlessly spewing twoofer canards then lying about DiMartini being a designer of the towers...because twoof is just a lie that can only be defended by telling more lies all told by liars like you!
Good luck with that!
These clowns justl love/desire the bunk from the web, anything they find negates itself ....in prior posts and posts yet to come.

One big circle jerk on a carousel!
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261622 Oct 30, 2013
AussieBobby wrote:
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A politician lying..OMFG
Tell me something.
Bill clinton couldn't even get a headjob on the sly without getting busted,and there were only two involved, so how did GWB pull 911 off with out one single leak?
The sleazy slut blew and told, my theory is she was paid off. Why else would she admit to the world she is slut? She was considering opening a restaurant... how could an intern have that kind of money?
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261623 Oct 30, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Everyone knows Bush told lies, forgot things and was a general bumbler. How does any of this indicate some massive conspiracy? You really think Bush would be a capable conspirator? I seriously doubt that.
And this is the government you trust.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261624 Oct 30, 2013
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>There's just one little problem Einstein.......nada.....zip... ....ZERO .....proof.
Let's go for two decades ........you can be much wiser but just as goddamn gullible.
Step away from that Alex Jones trash you will do yourself wonders.
And this is the testimony that never saw the light of day in the NIST report.
A testimony of the Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, which indicates Cheney ordered the stand down order of NORAD.

onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261625 Oct 30, 2013
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>These clowns justl love/desire the bunk from the web, anything they find negates itself ....in prior posts and posts yet to come.
One big circle jerk on a carousel!
In the Govenment you Trust
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261626 Oct 30, 2013
Once again, I ask how did the center of building 6 end up missing/gone???
In the first draft of the NIST report they ignored building 7. WHY???
According to architects no steel frame building has ever fell due to fire, how did 3 happen to fall on the same day???
Planes have crashed in building before and none of them collapsed. How did the strongest buildings in the world happened to collapse at near free fall speed.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#261627 Oct 30, 2013
The odds of three steel framed buildings falling to the ground on the same day due to any type of fire,(one of which was not hit by a plane) is roughly equal to three ocean liners the size of the Titanic sinking due to hitting icebergs on their maiden voyages all on the same day!

I'd show the math but that's impossible because my dog ate it!

Yeah! What about the hole in the center of building 6? Incredibly uniform damage from random falling debris.

Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#261628 Oct 30, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Its always steel plating all over again when dealing with you smear campaigners, because you will always stick to your mischaracterizations to attempt to make your points while you ignore anything against your agenda.

But thats why you have made it your mission in life to turn this discussion into a one up insult contest. Thats why you encourage idiot liars like WasteOfWater and Charlie Sheen to spam it senselessly, when you yourself are not spamming it senselessly. If you notice, it had substance in the discussions for the most part until you arrived, then withered away to what it is today mostly because of you and the empty headed minions you attract.

Now I know some of the unregistered nics here are not the brightest, and their idiocy damages the quest for truth; but you don't see me encouraging them as you do any idiot that will support your cause in Canada.

That's the smear campaign, and that's why

Insults Are Easier
it is always steel plating over and over again because all you can ever muster is bs to cover the lies you tell in order to defend twoof: the big lie.

And seriously you whiny little baby, if you think pointing out how utterly ridiculous the dumb crap you mindlessly spew is "smearing" I just can't help but think how pathetic your real life must be.

The problem with you losers is you really do expect blue ribbons just for showing up and can't fathom why your extreme intellectual laziness is rewarded with derision and disrespect.

Trying to somehow distinguish yourself as better than grey box idiots like Manyfails while spewing the exact same debunked garbage (how big was the entry hole in the pentagon again liar?) just shows how utterly pathetic twoof is as a whole.

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#261629 Oct 30, 2013
onemale wrote:
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And this is the government you trust.
It's a matter of facts and evidence which shows what actually happened. Trust in the government is irrelevant.

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#261630 Oct 30, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The odds of three steel framed buildings falling to the ground on the same day due to any type of fire,(one of which was not hit by a plane) is roughly equal to three ocean liners the size of the Titanic sinking due to hitting icebergs on their maiden voyages all on the same day!
I'd show the math but that's impossible because my dog ate it!
Yeah! What about the hole in the center of building 6? Incredibly uniform damage from random falling debris.
Huh Eh !
What is odd about badly damaged buildings collapsing?

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#261631 Oct 30, 2013
onemale wrote:
Once again, I ask how did the center of building 6 end up missing/gone???
In the first draft of the NIST report they ignored building 7. WHY???
According to architects no steel frame building has ever fell due to fire, how did 3 happen to fall on the same day???
Planes have crashed in building before and none of them collapsed. How did the strongest buildings in the world happened to collapse at near free fall speed.
The other buildings were hit with huge pieces of the Trade Towers and also damaged by subsequent fires.

What about the buildings falling in the footprints which it totally false.

What happened to free fall speed which it never was.

Ooops. You don't have a case.

Since: Aug 11

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#261632 Oct 30, 2013
onemale wrote:
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And this is the testimony that never saw the light of day in the NIST report.
A testimony of the Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta, which indicates Cheney ordered the stand down order of NORAD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6ZBN-aqmvYoXX
False. The chain of command and the short time to the targets prevented any kind of shoot down scenario. Besides, hijacked planes had never been used to demolish buildings prior to 9/11.

NEXT

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#261633 Oct 30, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>it is always steel plating over and over again because all you can ever muster is bs to cover the lies you tell in order to defend twoof: the big lie.

And seriously you whiny little baby, if you think pointing out how utterly ridiculous the dumb crap you mindlessly spew is "smearing" I just can't help but think how pathetic your real life must be.

The problem with you losers is you really do expect blue ribbons just for showing up and can't fathom why your extreme intellectual laziness is rewarded with derision and disrespect.

Trying to somehow distinguish yourself as better than grey box idiots like Manyfails while spewing the exact same debunked garbage (how big was the entry hole in the pentagon again liar?) just shows how utterly pathetic twoof is as a whole.
You just wake up everyday, run your smear campaign, make generalizations to avoid the crucial evidence, and you are the one who, in fact, whines like a little bitch.

You are just a Canadian monarchist who wants the world to be a slave like you have been all your life.

Now thats pathetic, you cartoon dirt ball.

Insults Are Easier

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