Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

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#261515 Oct 28, 2013
onemale wrote:
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PROVE IT!!!
Go look for yourself fool.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

"Despite the destructive fire that raged inside the impact area on 9/11, pieces of debris were visible on 9/13 and 9/14, and were photographed by recovery workers. These photos clearly show pieces of landing gears, a large turbofan engine, and fuselage. The evidence inside the building is consistent with the evidence of plane wreckage outside -- indicating that a commercial airliner flew into the Pentagon on September 11th."

If it came from any plane other than flight 77, you need to show the following.

1. Where did flight 77 actually go?

2. Where did the surreptitious plane come from?

3. Admit that the missile story is totally false.

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#261516 Oct 28, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Here comes the dismissal.
"They already knew what planes they were and didn't need to identify anything."
Yeah right. That's about how the whole shoddy investigation went.
Huh eh !
You have done no investigation but make many false claims. How shoddy is that?

Huh?

Huh?

Huh?

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#261517 Oct 28, 2013
onemale wrote:
The jet engine found at the Pentagon does not match that of 757.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspira...
Its doesn't match your titanium engines claim.

Another self debunking post

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#261518 Oct 28, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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I have to say all that on 9/11 the numerous govie agencies involved didn't do such a good job. In fact they failed miserably to do their job. The only job they were charged with, namely defending the continental US from attacking forces within and without.
I'm talking about NORAD, the FAA, the Washington DC Air National Guard, the New York Air National Guard, the Northeast Air Defense Sector and the entire US Air Force.
None of these numerous govie agencies did their job on 9/11 and no one was so much as chastized, courts-martial-ed or lost their job for failing to do their job. The one and only job they train for almost each and every day they are on duty.
And then you expect the American people to believe the govie agencies that conducted a so-called scientific investigation into the events of that day, and find that nothing was out of the ordinary. The planes were hi-jacked "oh my", they slipped through the elaborate defenses that were suddenly too busy with "war-games" to do anything "what a shame" and flew into their targets which then caught fire and fell completely to the ground?!?!?!?!?!
What about WTC7 which didn't even have a plane fly into it!?!?!?
Nothing out of the ordinary here says the govie "investigators".
You want me and everybody else to believe THAT!?!?!?!?!?
What a "ridiculous notion" you are entertaining here!
Huh Eh !
Oh the irony on these pages!?!?!?!?!?
You surely are a waste of water!
You claim numerous government agencies worked in perfect concert. Really? What planet do you live on?

They had no means of preventing what happened on 9/11 because they did not work together. They also had workable plan to prevent airliners from nearby airports being used in such an attack. They had no chain of command in place to take out hijacked airplanes on such a short notice.

Various government agencies handle crime investigations. They all have their own turf. They also take photographs and collect evidence which you dismiss due to your obvious bias.

Yes the planes were perfectly able to reach three of the targets and do considerable damage.

WTC7 was collateral damage.

:Let's have some facts and evidence to prove that all these inept agencies worked together to pull off your nefarious conspiracy. Congratulations. You just argued against yourself showing that the government is far too inept to accomplish such a far reaching feat.

Nice Going. You must be kidding me again.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#261520 Oct 28, 2013
I don't care if you are "kidded" or not. You are totally inconsequential to me.

You're entitled to "your opinion". And that's all you got.

Next...

Huh Eh !

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#261521 Oct 28, 2013
"No workable plan..."

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#261522 Oct 28, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
I don't care if you are "kidded" or not. You are totally inconsequential to me.
You're entitled to "your opinion". And that's all you got.
Next...
Huh Eh !
Wow! The feeling is mutual good buddy.

Got any real facts and evidence or just unsubstantiated opinion?

Come on!

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#261523 Oct 28, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
I don't care if you are "kidded" or not. You are totally inconsequential to me.
You're entitled to "your opinion". And that's all you got.
Next...
Huh Eh !
I have evidence, witnesses and facts which is more than you have.

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#261524 Oct 28, 2013
The missile was debunked long ago.

Where did flight 77 and the passengers go? How did this totally inept group of government agencies pull of such a fantastic thing? Where did the substitute commercial airliner come from undetected? How did flight 77 black boxes turn up at the Pentagon along with all the airplane debris and charred passengers?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story...

N E W Y O R K, Sept. 14
Workers at the Pentagon have recovered the "black box" flight data recorders from the collapsed portion of the building, where a jet slammed into it during Tuesday's horrific terrorist attacks.

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#261525 Oct 28, 2013
Engine disc outside the Pentagon.

http://media.photobucket.com/user/snow__crash... [term]=flight%20aa%2077&fi lters[primary]=images&filt ers[secondary]=videos&sort =1&o=5

Pentagon witness spreadsheet (Excel file)

Many witnesses were in their cars, in a traffic jam directly in front of the Pentagon. Most of those people drove away and were not interviewed. Below is a summary of the accounts quoted in the lists and spreadsheet summary above. These are mostly accounts that appeared in mainstream media reports. Many more people probably witnessed the attack.

From the lists above, 136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and
104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.

7 said it was a Boeing 757.

8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.

42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.

2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

3 took photographs of the aftermath.

Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."

And of course,

0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.

Video: pilot Aziz ElHallan saw flight 77 hit Pentagon, shows aircraft debris that landed near his car.
https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pen...

Got Evidence?

Huh? Eh?

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#261526 Oct 28, 2013
Dr. Z Zero

WW 136 reasons why flight 77 hit the Pentagon

Evidence

Huh? Eh?

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#261527 Oct 28, 2013
Missile...... Totally debunked.

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pen...

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#261528 Oct 28, 2013
No plane hit the Pentagon? Tell that to Mickey Bell, Sean Boger, Omar Campo, Michael DiPaula, Frank Probst, and Jack Singleton, all of whom saw flight 77 approach and came within feet of being struck as it roared across the Pentagon lawn. Probst dove out of the way to avoid being hit by the 757's right engine, which tore through this fence and damaged the construction generator trailer at right:

Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, the 6'2" Vietnam Veteran looked up, directly into the right engine of a 757 commercial airliner cresting the hilltop Navy Annex. It reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine. "Had I not hit the deck, the plane would have taken off my head."Source

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pen...

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#261529 Oct 28, 2013
Missile debunked.

A missile would not have taken out this light pole.

Some of the most delusional "no plane" conspiracy believers think that the five light poles knocked down by flight 77 – in full view of hundreds of people – were "planted" there and were not hit by the plane.

A section of light pole narrowly missed taxi owner Lloyd England when it impaled his windshield.

The following excerpts are from longer quotes in the witness lists linked above.
Steve Riskus: "I could see the "American Airlines" logo...It knocked over a few light poles in its way." Mark Bright: "...at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." Mike Walter: "...it clipped one of these light poles ... and slammed right into the Pentagon right there. It was an American Airlines jet." Rodney Washington: "...knocking over light poles" Kirk Milburn: "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles." Afework Hagos: "It hit some lampposts on the way in." Kat Gaines: "saw a low-flying jetliner strike the top of nearby telephone poles." D.S. Khavkin: "First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles." Wanda Ramey: "I saw the wing of the plane clip the light post, and it made the plane slant. Penny Elgas: A piece of American Airlines Flight 77 was torn from the plane as it clipped a light pole. It landed in her car. Now in the Smithsonian Institution's 9/11 collection. Lincoln Liebner: "It was probably about thirty feet off the ground, clipping the lampposts. I could clearly see through the windows of the plane. It was maybe going 500 miles an hour - when it just flew...into the Pentagon ... less than a hundred yards away."

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pen...

Got Evidence Dr Z?

Hugh? Eh?

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#261530 Oct 28, 2013
I was just about to make my turn up the sidewalk towards one of the entrances when I heard jet engines. It was not the normal jet track into National Airport, which is very, very different. I turned my head about maybe 90 degrees towards the sound of the engines, which were very loud. I fully expected to see A-10s or F-15s or something, and I saw the American Airlines airplane coming down. I watched the entire terminal descent into the building. It’s probably the loudest noise I ever heard in my life. I have heard artillery very close. I have heard rock concerts, but nothing came close to that noise. I watched the entire airplane go into the building.

...Even at this point, I don’t believe the Secretary [Rumsfeld] was confident that, in fact, a civilian airliner had hit the building. I think they still speculated about a bomb, a cruise missile, a small aircraft, but I was glad I was able to give useful information. I told them the plane came in full throttle, level, flaps up, wheels up, wasn’t crashed into the building, was flown into the building.

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#261531 Oct 28, 2013
About 9:40, Alan Wallace had finished fixing the foam metering valve on the back of his fire truck parked in the Pentagon fire station and walked to the front of the station. He looked up and saw a jetliner coming straight at him. It was about 25 feet off the ground, no landing wheels visible, a few hundred yards away and closing fast.

"Runnnnn!" he yelled to a pal. There was no time to look back, barely time to scramble. He made it about 30 feet, heard a terrible roar, felt the heat, and dove underneath a van, skinning his stomach as he slid along the blacktop, sailing under it as though he were riding a luge. The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around.

A few seconds later he was sliding back out to check on his friend and then race back to the firetruck. He jumped in, threw it into gear, but the accelerator was dead. The entire back of the truck was destroyed, the cab on fire. He grabbed the radio headset and called the main station at Fort Myer to report the unimaginable. Please read Alan Wallace's account: http://tinyurl.com/p6gmm

Other firefighters saw the plane's impact:
Engine 101 actually saw the jetliner plow into the northwest side of the Pentagon. The radio crackled,“Engine 101—emergency traffic, a plane has gone down into the Pentagon. I made a quick U-turn and was on scene within a minute to a minute and a half of the initial impact.Source

Hey Dr. Z?

Are you saying all of these guys are lying and these pictures are false?

Really?

Don't kid me now.

Got Evidence? Huh?

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pen...
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261532 Oct 28, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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I have evidence, witnesses and facts which is more than you have.
Govie BS isn't evidence

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#261533 Oct 28, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Govie BS isn't evidence
Are you saying the pictures are a fabrication and the hundred-thirty-six witnesses are liars? These are well documented from various sources. Lets's see you prove your foolishness. Go to the links and see for yourself. You might lose your delusion. Look at the pictures of the destroyed fire truck. See the van the fireman dived under. Look at the lamp post which was knocked down.

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#261534 Oct 28, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Govie BS isn't evidence
I presented evidence. Impeach the evidence if you can.

Your reply is BS. You have nothing.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#261535 Oct 28, 2013
Wikileaks Exposes 9/11 Conspirators!!!

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