Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#260493 Oct 8, 2013
"The plane was going 733.33 feet per second. That was more than enough speed to fold the wings. The engines are attached too the wings and had no problem passing through the wall of windows."

Engines attached too (sic) the wings and had No problem passing through the wall of windows like magic without making so much as a mark.

Fantastic!?!?!?

"Enough speed to fold the wings"

At the fuselage the wings are bigger, front to back, than the hole in the front facade of the building.

If the wings folded and went in the rabbit hole you said it they must still be in there.

Got any pictures of the wings and the engines and the tail section inside the magic rabbit hole you say they went into? In short the entire Boeing 757 went in that hole and nobody took any pictures?

Well of course, how could they? The whole thing is a fabrication of the first order.

wasted water, you are an imbecile and a credit to your govie employers, who are also imbeciles.

You DO believe in majik don't you! KEWL Dude LOL

Huh eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#260494 Oct 8, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Here's a composite, from a twoofer website no less, that shows the hole in the Pentagon is well over 20',
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis...
And again, one twoofer makes a claim that was utterly ridiculous and unsupportable and all twoofers since mindlessly chant the same mantra like cutists parroting scripture...because twooferdumb has no mechanism for expelling stupid.
Interesting how twoof always skates past the evidence that they're dead wrong...well actually, it's S.O.P. in twooferdumb.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#260495 Oct 8, 2013
pig You are the liar.

You, just another defender of the lying govie party line.

You don't ask questions, you simply believe what you are told by the politicians who invented the whole fabrications because of your personal involvement.

How could you be wrong enough to think that your govie could have done this to You and yours.

Well they did!?!?!?!?!? Get Over It.

Huh eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#260496 Oct 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
pig You are the liar.
You, just another defender of the lying govie party line.
You don't ask questions, you simply believe what you are told by the politicians who invented the whole fabrications because of your personal involvement.
How could you be wrong enough to think that your govie could have done this to You and yours.
Well they did!?!?!?!?!? Get Over It.
Huh eh !
Interesting how twoof always skates past the evidence that they're dead wrong...well actually, it's S.O.P. in twooferdumb.

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis...

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#260497 Oct 8, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Of course you haven't looked. It was a lie you tried to use to cover for your previous lie that molten steel=cd.

And it's very funny how you whine and snivel about being smeared by your own words taken in context all the while baselessly accusing thousands of being complicit in the cover up of mass murder.

Oh and seriously?

I can easily support what I've said in the past and easily show the garbage you've claimed. Just another example of how willingly you lie to cover for your previous lies and you do it for one reason and one reason only.

Because,

[Your] Ignorance is [Your] Bliss
So in order for that to be a lie , you would have to show steel has never been plated with less corrosive metal and then been involved in a building fire.

Try using logic, Dudley, its a heck of a time saver not needing to look for links on the internet.

Link or Think

Insults Are Easier

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#260498 Oct 8, 2013
SOP for the bwunkers here and their supposed unofficial leader porker pig pie is skating past the evidence that the official govie fairy tale they are all sooo invested in flies in the face of Newtonian science and is totally wrong.

pig You are the liar here. We Truthers only challenge and question your official govie tale. You believe it lock stock and bbl. And with any luck will defend it to your death!

Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#260499 Oct 8, 2013
So the 125 feet wingspan of the Boeing 757 would (give or take a bit for the wings snapping off) have made a hole, about 177 feet wide, in the Pentagon wall. This clearly did not happen.

So, I think it is safe to say that although the hole in the Pentagon wall appears to have been made by an aircraft, it is in fact, too small, to have been made by a Boeing 757.

Reel Guud debwunking pig.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2...

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#260500 Oct 8, 2013
Aircraft, hmmm lets see, that includes a Russian Granit cruise missile.

Variously named American cruise missiles and other aircraft too numerous to mention that would have no trouble hitting right at ground (water) level like a properly designed cruise missile would hit a ship.

Penetrating all the way into the inner rings of the Pentagon punching nice round holes as it went.

Coulda Woulda Shoulda been a cruise missile maybe?

SOP for the bwunker shills is to say nonsense, preposterous, if it wasn't the Boeing where did it go? LOL

Huh Eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#260501 Oct 8, 2013
Dissecting the official myth reveals a set of two memes:

Islamic militants hijack jetliners with simple weapons.
Jumbo-jet crashes cause buildings to collapse.

These memes function primarily on a subconscious level.

They are reinforced through repetition, and bypass rational argument.

Memes spread through reinforcement.

The first meme is reinforced by the repeated success of the alleged teams of hijackers in taking over the flights.

The second meme is reinforced by the collapses of both of the towers hit by jetliners, and the collapse of a portion of the Pentagon above the crash zone.

Building 7 was not hit by a plane, but its collapse aids the second meme by making steel buildings seem prone to collapse.

Repetition of unlikely events is even more unlikely in fact, but is favorable for the meme.

Memes can succeed in spite of the absence of precedent, and of contradictions to easily demonstrated facts.

The fact that no steel high-rise has ever collapsed from fires, and the fact that no steel building has ever collapsed in a top-down manner, did not stand in the way of the second meme.

The official govie meme = LIES told by LIARS.

Huh eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#260502 Oct 8, 2013
Oh Yeah

Link or Lie and Cry

http://911review.com/myth/index.html

Huh Eh !
Pegasus

United States

#260503 Oct 8, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahahaha!!!!
<quoted text>
I said,
Porkpie Hat wrote, "<quoted text>
You've been shown time after time that the designer of the buildings did a few calculations to prove the buildings would survive a hit from a slow moving 707 lost in fog and no fuel loading was taken into account.
But then there's the fact that the buildings did survive the impacts..,.d'oh!
"
Leslie Robertson, lead designer of WTC 1 & 2 said,
"The two towers were the first structures outside of the military and nuclear industries designed to resist the impact of a jet airliner, the Boeing 707. It was assumed that the jetliner would be lost in the fog, seeking to land at JFK or at Newark. To the best of our knowledge, little was known about the effects of a fire from such an aircraft, and no designs were prepared for that circumstance. Indeed, at that time, no fireproofing systems were available to control the effects of such fires."
He also said,
"Figure 3 shows the comparative energy of impact for the Mitchell bomber that hit the Empire State Building during World War II, a 707, and a 767. The energy contained in the fuel is shown in Figure 4. Considerations of larger aircraft are shown in Figures 5 and 6. The physical sizes of these aircraft are compared with the size of the floor plate of one of the towers in Figure 7. These charts demonstrate conclusively that we should not and cannot design buildings and structures to resist the impact of these aircraft."
http://www.nae.edu/Publications/Bridge/Engine...
Lmao.......he follows science alright, the junk science that knows no Alex Jones bounds....
Pegasus

United States

#260504 Oct 8, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
Then can you link me to those 20 pilots?
LOL.....hehehe.....his method is scientific like his post reads.

These dingdongs have placed their feet in their mouths so many gd times they're getting trench mouth.
Pegasus

United States

#260505 Oct 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
You idiots can argue about just exactly how big or small any of the holes in the Pentagon are till you all are blue in the face.
But the fact remains that for some strange reason they are all somewhat round and none of them are big enough for a whole Boeing 757, complete with wings, engines, tail, rear horizontal stabilizers etc.
And what kind of aluminum airplane body can stay round long enough to punch all the way through to the inner hole which is fairly round?
Huh Eh !
There are all sorts of stiffeners and gussets fabricated into the interior of an AIRCRAFT
GRADE ALUMINUM wing.
What do you think they make the freaking wings out of aluminum siding for a house dickwad?

Also moron think about the two different veneers that the aircraft(s) encountered......one of glass, aluminum, and steel......the other of granite.

Now wtf will happen to the aircraft hitting the more solid of the two?
Pegasus

Bronx, NY

#260506 Oct 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
SOP for the bwunkers here and their supposed unofficial leader porker pig pie is skating past the evidence that the official govie fairy tale they are all sooo invested in flies in the face of Newtonian science and is totally wrong.
pig You are the liar here. We Truthers only challenge and question your official govie tale. You believe it lock stock and bbl. And with any luck will defend it to your death!
Huh Eh !
I just love to see you get all unraveled, unhinged,....off on a tangent and such.

Relax [email protected]'t be so goddamn frustrated......rotflmao!!!!!! !!!!

Since: Aug 11

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#260507 Oct 8, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Hahahaha?
Do you actually laugh as you write or do you sit there quietly just intending to make it appear so?
And Im not claiming perfect understanding of anything, I still can learn much about most things. You on the other hand have learned everything, and theres nothing left... Thats what makes you the idiot.
Theres a History Channel doc about the WTC construction out their where the architect is quoted as saying each tower can withstand two 707 impacts because the design was like a screen door mesh, when you puncture it the hole does not damage the integrity of the screen door.
He died there, so we cant cross examine him...
Why is this relevant? Only one impact occurred in each. Is this because that Bazant character got his hack collapse theories published in journals over the reasonable objections of other engineers? So much so that one of them received feedback from the journals editor agreeing his objections were valid, only to see it magically appear with no explanation or corrections. Looks like some behind the scenes arm twisting was applied to get that on.
But you wont understand the implications, you never do.
Insults Are Easier
The design values are theoretical based upon several assumptions.

1. The 707 would be coming in for a landing meaning it would be traveling slightly above stall speed with wing flaps extended.

2. It would be lost in the fog or off-course for some other reason.

3. It would have very little fuel on-board.

Here are the pertinent facts.

1. The planes were traveling close to maximum speed of around 500 mph as opposed to around 130mph.

2. The planes had been refueled prior to take-off.

3. The planes were otherwise comparable.

Conclusion: This is a comparison of apples and oranges. The difference is akin to being shot through the heart or shot in a non-lethal extremity.

Since: Aug 11

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#260508 Oct 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Dissecting the official myth reveals a set of two memes:
Islamic militants hijack jetliners with simple weapons.
Jumbo-jet crashes cause buildings to collapse.
These memes function primarily on a subconscious level.
They are reinforced through repetition, and bypass rational argument.
Memes spread through reinforcement.
The first meme is reinforced by the repeated success of the alleged teams of hijackers in taking over the flights.
The second meme is reinforced by the collapses of both of the towers hit by jetliners, and the collapse of a portion of the Pentagon above the crash zone.
Building 7 was not hit by a plane, but its collapse aids the second meme by making steel buildings seem prone to collapse.
Repetition of unlikely events is even more unlikely in fact, but is favorable for the meme.
Memes can succeed in spite of the absence of precedent, and of contradictions to easily demonstrated facts.
The fact that no steel high-rise has ever collapsed from fires, and the fact that no steel building has ever collapsed in a top-down manner, did not stand in the way of the second meme.
The official govie meme = LIES told by LIARS.
Huh eh !
All theoretical. Where is your hard evidence that any of this is factual?
Pegasus

Bronx, NY

#260509 Oct 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Aircraft, hmmm lets see, that includes a Russian Granit cruise missile.
Variously named American cruise missiles and other aircraft too numerous to mention that would have no trouble hitting right at ground (water) level like a properly designed cruise missile would hit a ship.
Penetrating all the way into the inner rings of the Pentagon punching nice round holes as it went.
Coulda Woulda Shoulda been a cruise missile maybe?
SOP for the bwunker shills is to say nonsense, preposterous, if it wasn't the Boeing where did it go? LOL
Huh Eh !
But zipperhead you don't have a molecule of proof as to a cruise missile isn't that so.

I thought so.

Since: Aug 11

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#260510 Oct 8, 2013
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>But zipperhead you don't have a molecule of proof as to a cruise missile isn't that so.
I thought so.
A missile would have gone all the way through the building and out into the courtyard.

Since: Aug 11

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#260511 Oct 8, 2013
The biggest problem is not the missile. Where did flight 77 go if not into the Pentagon? There is no plausible scenario.

Since: Aug 11

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#260512 Oct 8, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
"The plane was going 733.33 feet per second. That was more than enough speed to fold the wings. The engines are attached too the wings and had no problem passing through the wall of windows."
Engines attached too (sic) the wings and had No problem passing through the wall of windows like magic without making so much as a mark.
Fantastic!?!?!?
"Enough speed to fold the wings"
At the fuselage the wings are bigger, front to back, than the hole in the front facade of the building.
If the wings folded and went in the rabbit hole you said it they must still be in there.
Got any pictures of the wings and the engines and the tail section inside the magic rabbit hole you say they went into? In short the entire Boeing 757 went in that hole and nobody took any pictures?
Well of course, how could they? The whole thing is a fabrication of the first order.
wasted water, you are an imbecile and a credit to your govie employers, who are also imbeciles.
You DO believe in majik don't you! KEWL Dude LOL
Huh eh !
No plane parts?

http://www.google.com/imgres...

This doesn't look like airplane damage?

http://www.google.com/imgres...

This looks like a missile? Really?

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence...

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