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Sep 18, 2013
 
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>Have you seen information concerning WTC4 which collapsed BEFORE either of the twin towers? I guess it's kind of a secret?
www.wtc7.net
Yea, I guess so, No one in NYC noticed it and your link says nothing about it.
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Sep 18, 2013
 
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>Have you seen information concerning WTC4 which collapsed BEFORE either of the twin towers? I guess it's kind of a secret?
www.wtc7.net
AHHHHH.... Before, From you own words!
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text> Apparently the evacuation of Building 4 began shortly after the North Tower was hit.
WTC 4 was severely damaged by fallout from the collapse of the South Tower, with all but one wing of the building having collapsed to ground level.
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Sep 18, 2013
 
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text> WTC 4's basement housed precious metal vaults, the apparent disappearance of most of whose billion-dollar contents has gone curiously unreported.
www.911research.wtc7.net
Claim:$160 billion in gold is missing from the World Trade Center.

Truth: Despite the fact that this would be over half the world’s gold reserves, and be nearly impossible to move secretly, this has never been reported by any reputable news source.

Treasure found in World Trade Center rubble

NEW YORK — Over $230 million in gold and silver was recovered from a delivery tunnel beneath 5 World Trade Center Wednesday. Canada’s Bank of Nova Scotia stored over $200 million in gold and silver in their vaults under the building. They are still unsure how much of the recovered metal was theirs. It is believed that there were other valuables stored in the vaults but there is no information on how much of it has been lost or recovered in the disaster.

Officials finally reached the trove Tuesday after removing a 10-wheel truck and several cars that had been crushed by the debris. No bodies were recovered. More than 100 armed officers watched the workers. The contents of the vaults had to be removed because authorities need to demolish the building.

— Reuters and New York Daily News

http://www.911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evi...

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Charlie Sheen wrote:
6.3
It follows that, without the help of gravitational collapse, the
degree of pulverization observed during the collapse of WTC 1 would have required over 600 tonnes of high explosive pre-placed in hundreds of boreholes in the concrete!
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The Pulverization of Concrete by Explosive Blast
Although it is considered an unlikely contributor to the collapse of the Twin Towers we shall, for comparative purposes, briefly consider the energetics of concrete pulverization
by explosive blast. We base this discussion on a number of reports that provide usefulexperimental data on blast fragmentation of concrete or similar brittle materials:
V. M. Kuznetsov.“The Mean Diameter of the Fragments Formed by Blasting Rock.”
Soviet Mining Science Vol. 9(2), 144,(1973).
A. Rustan.“The Influence of Specific Charge, Geometric Scale and Physical Properties
of Homogenous Rock on Fragmentation.” Proceedings of the First International Symposium on Rock Fragmentation by Blasting, page 114,(1983).
B. M. Luccioni et al.“Concrete Pavement Slab Under Blast Loads.” International Journal of Impact Engineering, Vol. 32, 1248,(2006).
These papers show that explosive blast is not a particularly effective means of pulverizing concrete especially if the explosive charges are not in direct contact with the target. Thus, for example, spherical charges of 10 kg TNT-equivalent placed 0.5 m above a 3 m ? 1.5 m area, 15 centimeter thick concrete slab produce a post-detonation crushed zone only about 30 cm in diameter. It is for this reason that mining and quarrying
operations generally use explosive charges placed into drilled boreholes to achieve maximum fragmentation.
A. Rustan,(see reference list above), using 1.2 m ? 1.2 m area, 10 cm thick concrete blocks, showed that a specific charge (mass of explosive/volume of material fragmented) of about 20 kg/m3 is required to reduce concrete to an average mesh size of 1 mm. Since
the detonation of a 1 kg charge of TNT within a brittle material such as concrete releases about 4 MJ of chemical energy, Rustan’s data indicates that only about 1 % of the available energy is directly utilized in fragmentation. This should be compared to the
impact-induced fragmentation of concrete where we have shown the energy utilization efficiency is over 10 %.
It follows that, without the help of gravitational collapse, the
degree of pulverization observed during the collapse of WTC 1 would have required over 600 tonnes of high explosive pre-placed in hundreds of boreholes in the concrete!
http://www.911myths.com/WTCONC1.pdf
Show your math ! Nice rant. Anything relevant to 9/11?

LINK! LMFAOOL

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<quoted text>You got me. Just like the whole Prescott Bush killing Tesla thing sometimes I fly off the handle when I'm full of fecal-matter. Thanks for pointing out my error. However I still believe Kenyan-born Obama is the Antichrist, the Titanic was really the badly damaged Olympic and Charles Harrelson shot JFK.
www.911truth.org
www.AE911truth.org
You have my deepest sympathies.

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Part of the reason the pathological liar feels compelled to lie is because he or she may feel as though being in the spotlight has eluded them. This person feels that he or she should be the center of everyone’s universe and will do what he or she can to make it happen. Upon tasting the spotlight, it becomes self-reinforcing and the lies grow bigger each time just to keep on being the center of attention. Here are some possibilities:

Insecurity. Low self esteem is one of the biggest reasons why people become pathological liars. Whether they consciously recognize it or not, a pathological liar feels that he or she is not important enough as they are so they must make up accomplishments or events to position themselves as worthy.
Wants to feel important. The pathological liar is the king or queen of the “one upper.” Whatever accomplishment you’ve achieved, they done it better. This person always has to feel superior to you at all times, no matter if it’s in the professional or personal arena.
Feels bored. Unfortunately, because this person’s life is not rooted in reality, he or she may become easily bored if drama is not swirling around his or her head. As a result, lies may be fabricated in order to amuse or entertain this person, which unfortunately means that other people become involved and possibly hurt as a result.

Ironically you are describing your bwunker buddy pork pie.

This definition fits pig pork pie to a "T".

Narcissistic Sophist Ideologue also.

Incidentally most of the bwunkers on this forum fit pretty good too.

Thanks for telling us sumpun what we already know. LOL

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Sep 18, 2013
 
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>Those who deny Jesus Christ as Lord will have hell to pay.
Impeach the Kenyan-born Antichrist!
You are still a dimwit.

How's that impeachment coming birfer?

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Sep 19, 2013
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Part of the reason the pathological liar feels compelled to lie is because he or she may feel as though being in the spotlight has eluded them. This person feels that he or she should be the center of everyoneÂ’s universe and will do what he or she can to make it happen. Upon tasting the spotlight, it becomes self-reinforcing and the lies grow bigger each time just to keep on being the center of attention. Here are some possibilities:

Insecurity. Low self esteem is one of the biggest reasons why people become pathological liars. Whether they consciously recognize it or not, a pathological liar feels that he or she is not important enough as they are so they must make up accomplishments or events to position themselves as worthy.
Wants to feel important. The pathological liar is the king or queen of the “one upper.” Whatever accomplishment you’ve achieved, they done it better. This person always has to feel superior to you at all times, no matter if it’s in the professional or personal arena.
Feels bored. Unfortunately, because this personÂ’s life is not rooted in reality, he or she may become easily bored if drama is not swirling around his or her head. As a result, lies may be fabricated in order to amuse or entertain this person, which unfortunately means that other people become involved and possibly hurt as a result.

Ironically you are describing your bwunker buddy pork pie.

This definition fits pig pork pie to a "T".

Narcissistic Sophist Ideologue also.

Incidentally most of the bwunkers on this forum fit pretty good too.

Thanks for telling us sumpun what we already know. LOL

Huh Eh !
Hey quit talking about WateOfWater, she might realize one day what a dull, pathological, empty vessel she is and end up trying to hurt her pet turtle.

So don't be cruel to animals.

Insults Are Easier
Pegasus

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Sep 19, 2013
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Part of the reason the pathological liar feels compelled to lie is because he or she may feel as though being in the spotlight has eluded them. This person feels that he or she should be the center of everyone’s universe and will do what he or she can to make it happen. Upon tasting the spotlight, it becomes self-reinforcing and the lies grow bigger each time just to keep on being the center of attention. Here are some possibilities:
Insecurity. Low self esteem is one of the biggest reasons why people become pathological liars. Whether they consciously recognize it or not, a pathological liar feels that he or she is not important enough as they are so they must make up accomplishments or events to position themselves as worthy.
Wants to feel important. The pathological liar is the king or queen of the “one upper.” Whatever accomplishment you’ve achieved, they done it better. This person always has to feel superior to you at all times, no matter if it’s in the professional or personal arena.
Feels bored. Unfortunately, because this person’s life is not rooted in reality, he or she may become easily bored if drama is not swirling around his or her head. As a result, lies may be fabricated in order to amuse or entertain this person, which unfortunately means that other people become involved and possibly hurt as a result.
Ironically you are describing your bwunker buddy pork pie.
This definition fits pig pork pie to a "T".
Narcissistic Sophist Ideologue also.
Incidentally most of the bwunkers on this forum fit pretty good too.
Thanks for telling us sumpun what we already know. LOL
Huh Eh !
You don't have any idea what you're rambling on about.

The Truth Movement is Dead.

Now sit down and brace yourself sonny because you may pass out after I fill in the details of your dilemma.

Here we go,
People such as yourself don't have a life, socially you appear to have the personality as that of a wet sock.
Mentally you are a dwarf, all you do is lay, relay, and parlay this canned crap day after day and the most amusing part of your mantra is you know this garbage you spew is bullshit.

I pity you because you Truther Clowns spend way to much time conducting damage control, to fucksticks such as yourself damage control consists of bobbing and weaving as you evade questions or just usually get knocked out once again and draw on another puppet to change the inner subject to fulfill a complete cycle on the Truther Carousel of Crap.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

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#259402
Sep 19, 2013
 
who wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't put on a random truther website, it was commissioned by rethink 911 and carried out by yougov which as you know is an independent organisation.
among their findings they found that 38% of Americans have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, 10% do not believe it at all, and 12% are unsure about it;
46%, nearly one in two, are not aware that a third tower collapsed on 9/11. Of those who are aware of Building 7Â’s collapse, only 19% know the buildingÂ’s name;
After seeing video footage of Building 7&#8242;s collapse: 46% are sure or suspect it was caused by controlled demolition, compared to 28% who are sure or suspect fires caused it, and 27% who donÂ’t know;
By a margin of nearly two to one, 41% support a new investigation of Building 7&#8242;s collapse, compared to 21% who oppose it.

Despite your best efforts you muppets have achieved nothing.
I can't be bothered to argue with you and yours anymore as it seems unnecessary.
Please feel free to swivel on this....LOLZ!!
http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/caci...
I agree it wasn't just another sham poll twoofers like to pretend supports them who but seriously, most people I know accept that it was done by Muslim terrorists and the buildings collapsed due to damage and the fires yet would still answer that they have some doubts over what the US government said.

This is typical of the kind of obvious dishonestly which has rendered twoof irrelevant.

Your poll doesn't support your claim.

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onemale wrote:
<quoted text>WOW so many on here needs to be spoon fed.
The concrete was reduced to powder before it the ground
Take a sledgehammer and see long it takes to reduce a concrete block to powder.
Such irony!

Btw, 4" thick slabs of lightweight concrete used for floor slabs vs the force of millions of pounds of debris moving dynamically and acted upon by the force of gravity is massive.

F=MA

How the heck does it work eh!

It's no wonder you're laughed at.

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onemale wrote:
Yes, I know this proves nothing but raises some questions
Only about your sanity.

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Sep 19, 2013
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>Ironically you are describing your bwunker buddy pork pie.

This definition fits pig pork pie to a "T".

Narcissistic Sophist Ideologue also.

Incidentally most of the bwunkers on this forum fit pretty good too.

Thanks for telling us sumpun what we already know. LOL

Huh Eh !
Ironically, you have proven the exact opposite.

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

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Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Insults Are Easier
Such wonderful irony!

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#259407
Sep 19, 2013
 
Pegasus wrote:
<quoted text>You don't have any idea what you're rambling on about.

The Truth Movement is Dead.

Now sit down and brace yourself sonny because you may pass out after I fill in the details of your dilemma.

Here we go,
People such as yourself don't have a life, socially you appear to have the personality as that of a wet sock.
Mentally you are a dwarf, all you do is lay, relay, and parlay this canned crap day after day and the most amusing part of your mantra is you know this garbage you spew is bullshit.

I pity you because you Truther Clowns spend way to much time conducting damage control, to fucksticks such as yourself damage control consists of bobbing and weaving as you evade questions or just usually get knocked out once again and draw on another puppet to change the inner subject to fulfill a complete cycle on the Truther Carousel of Crap.
Elevator boy-sheep hasn't a clue about anything Peg. He just opens his mouth and stupid flows like water over cliff.

Twoof is dead. It died the first time a loon was given a valid answer to his nonsensical question and his only response was yet another nonsensical question while never acknowledging the answer to the previous one.

Twoof could be called the. "Hey, what about this?", movement.

The only ones left spouting twoof are trolls and the truly deluded.

Hope all is well with you!
Pegasus

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#259408
Sep 19, 2013
 
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Such wonderful irony!
Porkpie you rascal, be easy on those sadsack Truthers they get all gibberish everytime you give them slapdowns and dope slaps.

Just the same I hope you are doing good up yonder in the great white north,must be a nip in the air up thar.
Charlie Sheen

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#259409
Sep 19, 2013
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Show your math ! Nice rant. Anything relevant to 9/11?
LINK! LMFAOOL
Huh Eh !
http://www.911myths.com/WTCONC1.pdf

Any flaws there in the math 20 pilot boy?
Charlie Sheen

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#259410
Sep 19, 2013
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Part of the reason the pathological liar feels compelled to lie is because he or she may feel as though being in the spotlight has eluded them.
Was that the reason for the 20 pilot or plate steal lies?

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Sep 19, 2013
 
Charlie Sheen wrote:
6.3
It follows that, without the help of gravitational collapse, the
degree of pulverization observed during the collapse of WTC 1 would have required over 600 tonnes of high explosive pre-placed in hundreds of boreholes in the concrete!
----------
The Pulverization of Concrete by Explosive Blast
Although it is considered an unlikely contributor to the collapse of the Twin Towers we shall, for comparative purposes, briefly consider the energetics of concrete pulverization
by explosive blast. We base this discussion on a number of reports that provide usefulexperimental data on blast fragmentation of concrete or similar brittle materials:
V. M. Kuznetsov.“The Mean Diameter of the Fragments Formed by Blasting Rock.”
Soviet Mining Science Vol. 9(2), 144,(1973).
A. Rustan.“The Influence of Specific Charge, Geometric Scale and Physical Properties
of Homogenous Rock on Fragmentation.” Proceedings of the First International Symposium on Rock Fragmentation by Blasting, page 114,(1983).
B. M. Luccioni et al.“Concrete Pavement Slab Under Blast Loads.” International Journal of Impact Engineering, Vol. 32, 1248,(2006).
These papers show that explosive blast is not a particularly effective means of pulverizing concrete especially if the explosive charges are not in direct contact with the target. Thus, for example, spherical charges of 10 kg TNT-equivalent placed 0.5 m above a 3 m ? 1.5 m area, 15 centimeter thick concrete slab produce a post-detonation crushed zone only about 30 cm in diameter. It is for this reason that mining and quarrying
operations generally use explosive charges placed into drilled boreholes to achieve maximum fragmentation.
A. Rustan,(see reference list above), using 1.2 m ? 1.2 m area, 10 cm thick concrete blocks, showed that a specific charge (mass of explosive/volume of material fragmented) of about 20 kg/m3 is required to reduce concrete to an average mesh size of 1 mm. Since
the detonation of a 1 kg charge of TNT within a brittle material such as concrete releases about 4 MJ of chemical energy, Rustan’s data indicates that only about 1 % of the available energy is directly utilized in fragmentation. This should be compared to the
impact-induced fragmentation of concrete where we have shown the energy utilization efficiency is over 10 %.
It follows that, without the help of gravitational collapse, the
degree of pulverization observed during the collapse of WTC 1 would have required over 600 tonnes of high explosive pre-placed in hundreds of boreholes in the concrete!
http://www.911myths.com/WTCONC1.pdf
So in Your mind (sic) it follows that gravity alone is responsible for the observed pulverization that would have taken 600 tonnes of high explosive pre-placed in hundreds of boreholes to accomplish.

That's quite a stretch, even for you bwunkers !

Real guud debwunking sorry charlie.

Huh Eh !
Fontaine In The Membrane

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Sep 19, 2013
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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So in Your mind (sic) it follows that gravity alone is responsible for the observed pulverization that would have taken 600 tonnes of high explosive pre-placed in hundreds of boreholes to accomplish.
That's quite a stretch, even for you bwunkers !
Real guud debwunking sorry charlie.
Huh Eh !
Show where the math is wrong, and yes, as pointed out, explosives do not but up concrete near as easy well as same size floor ramming together over and over, explosives in concrete tend to just leave big holes as seen over and over.

SHOW YOUR MATH 20 pilot boy!

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