Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#259357 Sep 18, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Honesty isn't among twoofs policies.

Lying, spreading disinformation, misrepresentation yes.

Honesty, never.
I forgot one.

Trolling.

Trolling is probably the single most important policy of twoof.

See "Dr. Zorders" for proof.
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259358 Sep 18, 2013
Twoofer math, you forgot to round any answer consisting of conformational bias up to 100%.
WasteWater wrote:
Check this out.
"A survey, which interviewed 1,000 people in the UK and the same number in the U.S., found that 14 per cent of Britons 15 per cent of Americans think the past administration was involved in the tragedy."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20313...
This says it all.
Do you think the 9/11 attacks were a government conspiracy?
Yes
9.5%(34)
9.5%(34)
No
76.8%(275)
76.8%(275)
Maybe/unsure
11.5%(41)
11.5%(41)
Other
1.1%(4)
1.1%(4)
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/5...
Are these guys part of a conspiracy?
To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.
In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.--THE EDITORS [of Popular Mechanics]
http://southerncrossreview.org/41/9-11.htm
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259359 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
But it gets better... 6 weeks later Mohamed Atta stood up and was alive in front of cameras at a Saudi Arabia television station!!!
Why do you lie like a five year old?

LINK!!!!!!!!!!
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259360 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
Charlie Sheen wrote:
WHAT SLABS OF CONCRETE??? All the concrete, with everything was pulverized long before it hit the ground. This is so obvious... if you can't figure that one out you need to go back to the 5th grade. I try to refrain from insulting but damn you make it impossible.
Even if I buy this nonsense the floors were intact when the planes and black boxes came to rest in in the buildings so let me see, the floor were pulverized but the black boxes should have remained intact.

Sure, And you know of two fake suicides and a Atta tape that does not exist.
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259361 Sep 18, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
So who had Motive, Means and Opportunity to mastermind 9/11?
Bin Laden!

But no evidence, right now most of the population has "MEANS MOTIVE & OPPORTUNITY" to rob a bank, if a bank is robbed according to your myopic viewpoint millions of people did it.
Say the Truth

Lansdale, PA

#259362 Sep 18, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
Given her size, she doesn't see much action anyway.
How are you STT?
Hangin', brother. Got hugely busy with job promotion, no time to post. Seems like the usual suspects are still at it, verifying Einstein's statement regarding insanity!

Hope you had a great summer- cheers!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#259363 Sep 18, 2013
The Maestro

The most important revelation made about the 9/11 war games comes again from Major Don Arias of NORAD. With multiple war games running, there had to be someone coordinating them.

"Yes, there is an exercise maestro," said Don Arias in a phone interview. 26

So who was the maestro?

Mike Ruppert called every relevant military and government office looking for an answer to this question and received no response. At the final 9/11 Commission hearing on June 17, 2004, I asked General Ralph Eberhart - the man in charge of NORAD on 9/11 - who was in charge of coordinating the war games that day. His only response was, "No comment." None of the commissioners, including Chairman Kean, could answer this question. 27

FTW's research has concluded the maestro was either Dick Cheney, Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, or both. Whoever the maestro was, he was certainly under Cheney's management as per the May 2001 presidential mandate.

Additionally, Tripod II was a bio-terror exercise being set-up on the west side of lower Manhattan, reportedly scheduled to begin the next day. This exercise was being coordinated with FEMA and the Department of Justice - two of the agencies placed directly under Cheney's control in May of 2001 by presidential mandate.

Another gigantic coincidence?

There is no question that Cheney would be responsible for managing this exercise. The Tripod II drill became the command & control emergency response center on 9/11. The command center in WTC 7 was reportedly evacuated by 9:30 on 9/11, but Tripod II provided a new command center organized just as the original was. 28 How convenient.

The Air Force war games ensured the air attack would be successful, and Tripod II assured Cheney would have control of the response to the crisis of his making. Matching the war games with hijackings - or hijacking the war games - was the opportunity for Cheney to help ensure the 9/11 attacks would be successful, justifying what he calls, "The war that will not end in our lifetimes." The "war on terror" is actually a war for the world's last remaining hydrocarbon reserves. This energy war is a response to a coming energy crisis that Cheney was well aware of at least as early as 1999.

Conclusion
Crossing the Rubicon demonstrates much more than is presented here. The book goes into the failures of the 9/11 Commission, 9/11 insider trading, the curtailing of civil liberties, coming economic crisis, biological warfare, the real history of the Osama bin Laden, and many other issues critical to an understanding of today's historical reality.

Crossing the Rubicon also looks into the evolution of PROMIS software, a well-documented artificial intelligence and datamining program whose current descendants played an integral role in the crimes of 9/11. As Dick Cheney was running a separate chain of command via the Secret Service, he also had the capability to intervene in the functions of the FAA through an evolution of PROMIS software developed and sold by Ptech, Inc.- a company funded by Saudi terrorist financier Yassin Al Qadi. Al Qadi claims he met Dick Cheney in Jeddah before he was Vice President, a claim Cheney hasn't publicly refuted. FTW will soon be releasing an in-depth report on Ptech and its role in the crimes of 9/11.

What we have placed in front of you here is the legal case against Dick Cheney and other persons of interest within the U.S. government. Such evidence should constitute the foundation for articles of impeachment and criminal prosecution against George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and their accomplices.

The US never impeached FDR for allowing the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor and no one will be impeached for 9/11.

In fact no one even lost their job or received a reprimand for not doing their job on 9/11. Same with Pearl Harbor.

But lots of innocent people lost their lives.
Just collateral damage.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011...
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259364 Sep 18, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
FTW's research has concluded the maestro was either Dick Cheney, Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, or both. Whoever the maestro was, he was certainly under Cheney's management as per the May 2001 presidential mandate.
So you don't know who he is but you know who his boss is, LOL, How do you know who a unknown persons boss is?

ANYWAY, The exercise did not interfere.
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
FTW's research has concluded the maestro was either Dick Cheney, Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, or both. Whoever the maestro was, he was certainly under Cheney's management as per the May 2001 presidential mandate.
So you don't know who he is but you know who his boss is, LOL, How do you know who a unknown persons boss is?

ANYWAY, The exercise did not interfere.

Approximately 9:00 AM

An hour into his shift, something unscripted happens. NORAD's Northeast Air Defence Sector (NEADS), based in Rome, N.Y., contacts the mountain.

THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION HAS EVIDENCE OF A HIJACKING AND IS ASKING FOR NORAD SUPPORT. THIS IS NOT PART OF THE EXERCISE.

IN A FLASH, OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE IS CALLED OFF. ANY SIMULATED INFORMATION, WHAT'S KNOWN AS AN "INJECT," IS PURGED FROM THE SCREENS.

Someone shouted to look at the monitor displaying CNN.

"At that point, we saw the World Trade Center, one of the towers, smoke coming out of it. AND A MINUTE LATER, WE WATCHED THE LIVE FEED AS THE SECOND AIRCRAFT SWUNG AROUND INTO THE SECOND TOWER," SAYS JELLINEK.

http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/planes/defe...
who

Reading, UK

#259365 Sep 18, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
The poll is not a scientific poll, putting a random poll on a twoofer site and expecting it to be a representative sample of the population is like putting a age of consent poll on a NAMBLA website and saying 98% of the general population thinks the age of consent should be 8 years of age.
Though Child Bride Fontaine may be for that.
It wasn't put on a random truther website, it was commissioned by rethink 911 and carried out by yougov which as you know is an independent organisation.
among their findings they found that 38% of Americans have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, 10% do not believe it at all, and 12% are unsure about it;
46%, nearly one in two, are not aware that a third tower collapsed on 9/11. Of those who are aware of Building 7’s collapse, only 19% know the building’s name;
After seeing video footage of Building 7&#8242;s collapse: 46% are sure or suspect it was caused by controlled demolition, compared to 28% who are sure or suspect fires caused it, and 27% who don’t know;
By a margin of nearly two to one, 41% support a new investigation of Building 7&#8242;s collapse, compared to 21% who oppose it.

Despite your best efforts you muppets have achieved nothing.
I can't be bothered to argue with you and yours anymore as it seems unnecessary.
Please feel free to swivel on this....LOLZ!!
http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/caci...
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259366 Sep 18, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Additionally, Tripod II was a bio-terror exercise being set-up on the west side of lower Manhattan, reportedly scheduled to begin the next day.
Yet another drill was a bio-warfare exercise called Tripod II. According to Michael Ruppert,‘‘THE ‘TRIPOD II,’ joint New York City-Department of Justice bio-warfare exercise, scheduled for Sept 12th, 2001 at New York’s Pier 29, and mentioned in testimony by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the 9/11 Commission, may become one of the single most important disclosures of 9/11.’’10 Giuliani apparently knew about the exercise because the New York-Department of Justice was a participant in the drill.
AS THIS DRILL WAS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, THEN PLAINLY IT’S NOT GOING TO IN ITSELF HAVE HAD ANY EFFECT ON THE OUTCOME OF THE ATTACKS. So what’s the significance? Jacobs explains:

Cheney was in charge of the war game known as Tripod 2, an exercise set up in downtown New York that set up a command and control center on 9/11 that was configured exactly like the one lost that morning in WTC 7.
"The Military Drills on 9-11: "Bizarre Coincidence" or Something Else?"

THE IDEA THAT CHENEY WAS IN CHARGE OF TRIPOD MAY BE BASED ON THE SAME FLAWED ASSUMPTIONS THAT SUGGEST HE CONTROLLED THE OTHER EXERCISES , but that’s a separate point. Here Jacobs appears to be saying that Tripod II had created a duplicate control centre by 9/11 so it was all ready to go. Unfortunately, that isn’t true: JACOBS IS HAPPY TO USE GIULIANI’S CONFIRMATION OF THE TRIPOD EXERCISE, BUT INEXPLICABLY IGNORES THIS PART OF THE SAME TESTIMONY:

WE THEN ARRIVED AT THE POLICE ACADEMY AND SET UP A COMMAND CENTER AT THE POLICE ACADEMY. AND THE COMMAND CENTER AT THE POLICE ACADEMY WAS COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED -- ALL OF THE FACILITIES -- AND WERE ABLE TO HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE THERE ABOUT 2:30 IN THE AFTERNOON IN WHICH WE COULD EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE HOW THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE MANAGED FROM THERE ON IN.

OUR NUMBER TWO BACKUP COMMAND CENTER WOULD HAVE BEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SEVEN WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS THE PRIMARY ONE. THE BACKUP WAS THE POLICE ACADEMY. THE NUMBER THREE WOULD HAVE BEEN METROTECH IN BROOKLYN, WHICH IS FULLY EQUIPPED TO BE A COMMAND CENTER.

WE MADE THE DECISION TO USE THE POLICY ACADEMY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS ISLAND. WE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE MANHATTAN. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE STATEMENT IF THE CITY GOVERNMENT LEFT THE ISLAND OF MANHATTAN. BUT THEN WE REALIZED PRETTY SHORTLY THAT THE POLICE ACADEMY WAS TOO SMALL, AND WE SELECTED PIER 92 AS OUR COMMAND CENTER.

And the reason Pier 92 was selected as the command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill. It had hundreds of people here from FEMA, from the federal government, from the state, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for a biochemical attack. So that was going to be the place they were going to have the drill.

The equipment was already there. So we were able to establish a command center there within three days that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed.
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/19/se...

FIRST, TRIPOD DID NOT “SET UP A COMMAND AND CONTROL CENTRE ON 9/11”: IT DIDN’T APPEAR UNTIL TWO TO THREE DAYS LATER.

And second, they had two other command and control centre options anyway. Giuliani points out that they were “too small”, but presumably if Tripod II hadn’t been running then the sole complication is that they’d have had to wait perhaps an extra 2 or 3 days for a large command and control centre to be working. How did saving this time benefit the supposed conspirators to the degree that they’d set up an entire exercise to ensure it happened? Makes very little sense to us.
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259367 Sep 18, 2013
who wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't put on a random truther website, it was commissioned by rethink 911 and carried out by yougov which as you know is an independent organization.
TOTALLY FALSE, It's not a scientific poll and does not even say what you claim, can you say Representative sample?
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259368 Sep 18, 2013
who wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't put on a random truther website, it was commissioned by rethink 911 and carried out by yougov which as you know is an independent organisation.
LMFAO, YOUR POLL, Talk about TRYING TO FORCE AN ANSWER AND STILL FAILING! Can you say rigged poll!

15 PERCENT, based on the best video evidence the poll could force down the participants throat!

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5.
Seven hours after the collapse of the Twin Towers, a third tower, known as World Trade CenterBUILDING 7, COLLAPSED AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.

PLEASE LOOK AT THIS FOOTAGE OF THE COLLAPSE OF WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING 7.

BASED ON THIS FOOTAGE and your previous knowledge, which statement best describes your opinion of the cause of Building 7’s collapse:

15%
I am sure that it was caused by a controlled demolition

31%
I suspect that it was caused by a controlled demolition, but I don’t know for sure

17%
I suspect that it was caused by ordinary fires, but I don’t know for sure

11%
I am sure that it was caused by ordinary fires

27%
I don’t know/ Not sure
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#259369 Sep 18, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Structures don't pulverize stuff when they collapse? Really?
WOW so many on here needs to be spoon fed.
The concrete was reduced to powder before it the ground
Take a sledgehammer and see long it takes to reduce a concrete block to powder.
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#259370 Sep 18, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if I buy this nonsense the floors were intact when the planes and black boxes came to rest in in the buildings so let me see, the floor were pulverized but the black boxes should have remained intact.
Sure, And you know of two fake suicides and a Atta tape that does not exist.
As usual you are missing the point.
The official fairytale tells us the black boxes were destroyed but yet a paper passport escaped undamaged. If the official story said “pigs can fly” would you believe that too???
Don't tell me I don't want to know
onemale

Tower Hill, IL

#259371 Sep 18, 2013
Yes, I know this proves nothing but raises some questions

Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259373 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW so many on here needs to be spoon fed.
The concrete was reduced to powder before it the ground
Take a sledgehammer and see long it takes to reduce a concrete block to powder.
FLOOR HITTING TOGETHER BEFORE THEY HIT THE GROUND WILL DO THAT, it was top down, the bottom floor was hit last!

NOW ADDRESS YOUR LIES WUSSY!
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259374 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual you are missing the point.
The official fairytale tells us the black boxes were destroyed but yet a paper passport escaped undamaged. If the official story said “pigs can fly” would you believe that too???
Don't tell me I don't want to know
Because paper endless blew out the building, the black boxes did not!
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259375 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
But it gets better... 6 weeks later Mohamed Atta stood up and was alive in front of cameras at a Saudi Arabia television station!!!
WHY DO you lie like a spoiled 5 year old? Inferiority complex much PANTY SNIFFER?
peter polyester

United States

#259376 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW so many on here needs to be spoon fed.
The concrete was reduced to powder before it the ground
Take a sledgehammer and see long it takes to reduce a concrete block to powder.
Off the hip..fill a 10'x10' square area on the ground with 16" cement blocks..fill the block cells while your at it with 5000 mix concrete..let harden..then drop a Cat D-8 on the blocks at 5' height..you will yield a pile of 3/4" stone..and no dummy you can't use a ton and a half come-along to pick up the D-8........lmfsobao!
Charlie Sheen

Matthews, NC

#259377 Sep 18, 2013
onemale wrote:
But it gets better... 6 weeks later Mohamed Atta stood up and was alive in front of cameras at a Saudi Arabia television station!!!
Part of the reason the pathological liar feels compelled to lie is because he or she may feel as though being in the spotlight has eluded them. This person feels that he or she should be the center of everyone’s universe and will do what he or she can to make it happen. Upon tasting the spotlight, it becomes self-reinforcing and the lies grow bigger each time just to keep on being the center of attention. Here are some possibilities:

Insecurity. Low self esteem is one of the biggest reasons why people become pathological liars. Whether they consciously recognize it or not, a pathological liar feels that he or she is not important enough as they are so they must make up accomplishments or events to position themselves as worthy.

Wants to feel important. The pathological liar is the king or queen of the “one upper.” Whatever accomplishment you’ve achieved, they done it better. This person always has to feel superior to you at all times, no matter if it’s in the professional or personal arena.

Feels bored. Unfortunately, because this person’s life is not rooted in reality, he or she may become easily bored if drama is not swirling around his or her head. As a result, lies may be fabricated in order to amuse or entertain this person, which unfortunately means that other people become involved and possibly hurt as a result.

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