Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#258600 Aug 24, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, like they think insults will sway people to their way of thinking. The only thing they are proving is, they know how to insult. In addition to they want to shoot the messenger and not the source. I post things I'm not even sure about for a discussion but instead I get insults and ignorance.
You get debunked then fail to address it, then you get insulted and laughed at.

It's self perpetuating.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#258601 Aug 24, 2013
Majikal thermite....another twoofer tale brought to us by the twoof fairy...and debunked by science.

Since: Aug 11

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#258602 Aug 24, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Majikal thermite....another twoofer tale brought to us by the twoof fairy...and debunked by science.
Yep.
Nexra Blevins

Mill Valley, CA

#258603 Aug 24, 2013
Magical gravity & office fires.

Is there no end to thy destruction ! Huh Eh !

The irony is huge Eh !

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#258604 Aug 24, 2013
Nexra Blevins wrote:
Magical gravity & office fires.

Is there no end to thy destruction ! Huh Eh !

The irony is huge Eh !
Yep,

Insults Are Easier

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#258605 Aug 24, 2013
Nexra Blevins wrote:
Magical gravity & office fires.
Is there no end to thy destruction ! Huh Eh !
The irony is huge Eh !
Twoofers here have removed the planes from the events of 911 as if they somehow have no bearing on the collapse of the towers,but now gravity.

Stupid Are Easier.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#258606 Aug 24, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, like they think insults will sway people to their way of thinking. The only thing they are proving is, they know how to insult. In addition to they want to shoot the messenger and not the source. I post things I'm not even sure about for a discussion but instead I get insults and ignorance.
Of course they do, because thats all they can do. They act as if insults and condescension are the result of years of exasperation and frustration in trying to explain to us simpletons what reality is. In reality, they have used those tactics from the very beginning because they have never had truth or science on their side.

They were shamed as children to believe what they now believe, and they must attempt to shame others to validate and feel better about themselves.

Because when you peddle lies,

Insults Are Easier

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#258607 Aug 25, 2013
Nexra Blevins wrote:
Magical gravity & office fires.

Is there no end to thy destruction ! Huh Eh !

The irony is huge Eh !
9.81m/s•s

F=ma

KE=1/2•m•(v•v)

p=mv

PE=mgh

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Tell us the one about sealed elevator shafts again!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#258608 Aug 25, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they do, because thats all they can do. They act as if insults and condescension are the result of years of exasperation and frustration in trying to explain to us simpletons what reality is. In reality, they have used those tactics from the very beginning because they have never had truth or science on their side.
They were shamed as children to believe what they now believe, and they must attempt to shame others to validate and feel better about themselves.
Because when you peddle lies,
Insults Are Easier
Jeez, maybe you should have spent your time learing about physics and materials instead of working on "Thermite: The Musical".
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Check out the FLIR footage of the WTC fires, not near the temps to melt steel, or make aluminum glow orange-yellow as it drips pre-collapse.
http://youtu.be/xQEd8PgY8vo
Insults Are Easier
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't watch this until this morning and I have to say, what an excellent example of the non-observant nature of twoofer idiocy this is!
First, the range this device is set at is from +15 to +120C.
Second, the distance setting is at 0M.
So the device is set to measure to a maximum of 120C giving a colour coded readout of that parameter at a location of 0M!
Now it's a given that losers like Ignorance is Bliss have no clue a device like this works but seriously....do the not have any ability to use even basic logic?
That is too funny!!!!!
Tell us again how you have even the slightest clue abuot the subject matter...oh but you can't since,

[Your] Ignorance is [Your] Bliss

Steel plating.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#258609 Aug 25, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep,
Insults Are Easier
Or in your case, ignorance and avoidance are easier.
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text> Again with the deflections and ignorance.
No one doubts firefighters have FLIR type devices dummy, what you're being asked to support is your purely speculation based claim that firefighters went and grabbed one of these units to specifically measure the temperature of the molten material and then go, "ah, the temp is around 2850F, based on that and colour this material is definitively steel!".
But that didn't happen and you're the only idiot making that claim...which you base on nothing more than speculation....which sums up everything you say with heaps of ignorance throw in for good measure.
Now, what do firefighters have as part of their kit?
A little research will help clarify that!
(Bit even a little is way too much for imbecilic twoofers)
Here's a thread form a firefighter forum discussing what kind of TIC's are available to them,
http://www.firehouse.com/forums/t31591/
One thing that's quite obvious is that not every firefighter is running around with one of these in their backpack. That's not to say some departments don't have some kind of thermal measuring instrument which all FF's carry, but this is probably more along the lines of what it is,
http://kestrelmeters.com/collections/kestrel-...
Now those aren't point and shoot type devices and are made to constantly monitor various parameters around a FF for their personal protection. This wouldn't be used to take the temperature of a molten material unless one saw it as expendable and dropped it into the material quickly reading it as it was consumed.
Another major issue with your current idiocy is the calibrated range of such instruments. Anyone who's used measuring equipment of any type knows calibrated rage is never 0-infinity and that the accuracy of a device is limited to a specific range.
NASA scientist, R Mackey, goes into great detail about this in reference to the FLIR devices used to measure hot spots at ground zero,
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php...
WARNING: It's sciency and could make twoofers heads explode!
So why would the average FF require a device calibrated to accurately measure temperatures in excess of 2000F?
To keep FF's protected they would most likely require an instrument that tells them what ambient temperatures in their immediate vicinity are as well as other parameters which could give advanced warning of flash over conditions.
(Que more ignorance from Ignorance because,
[His] Ignorance is [His] Bliss)

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Okotoks, Canada

#258610 Aug 25, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
I already have them oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS.
Smouldering fires in an insulated rubble pile where heat input is higher than heat loss. This is the exact same principal that early smelting techniques were based on. As long as heat energy is being input into a system at a higher rate than heat loss, the temperature will increase.
You wouldn't know that because...well, you're an imbecile.
Another is that chemical reactions in the toxic soup and metals with lower melting points would lower the melting point of steel to facilitate lower rubble pile temperatures.
"The addition of a small quantity of one metal to another always lowers the melting -point of the latter"
http://books.google.ca/books...
Don't worry oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS, you're not expected to get it.
Hey, tell us the one about sealed elevator shafts again!
That wuz sum reel gud twoofing!
And of course oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS ran away when I called his bluff.

Interesting that my off the cuff explanations seems to fit perfectly with Dave Thomas' recent experiment too.
Nexra Blevins

Mill Valley, CA

#258611 Aug 25, 2013
D dt (Z z(t) 0 &#956;(S)s&#729;(S)dS ) &#8722; g Z z(t) 0 &#956;(S)dS = &#8722; Fc(z, z&#729;)(1) 3 where t = time, z = vertical (Lagrangian) coordinate = distance of the current crushing front from the initial position of the tower top; the superior dots denote time derivatives; &#956;(S)= initial specific mass of tower (mass of a story divided by its height) at point of initial coordinate S; s&#729;(S)= velocity of material point with initial coordinate S. It will suffice to consider the velocity, as well as the momentum density, to be distributed throughout the compacted layer linearly.

With these approximations, the crush-down differential equation of motion becomes: d dt ( m0[1 &#8722; (z)] dz
dt + &#956;cl 2 [2 &#8722; (z)] dz dt ) &#8722; m(z)g = &#8722;Fc(z, z&#729;)(crush-down)(2) while the crush-up differential equation of motion has the same form as Eq. 17 of Bazant and Verdure (2007): m(y)( d dt " [1 &#8722; (y)] dy dt #+ g )= Fc(y, y&#729;)(crush-up)(3) Here Eq.(2) represents a refinement of Eq. 12 of Bazant and Verdure (2007), while Eq.(3) is identical to their Eq. 17 because the compacted layer is stationary during crush-up. Furthermore, l = height of compacted layer B, &#956;c = specific mass of compacted layer B per unit height, which is considered to be constant and equal to the maximum possible density of compacted debris; m(z)= cumulative mass of the tower above level z of the crushing front (m(z)= m0 + &#956;cl); and Fc = resisting force = energy dissipation per unit height; Fc(z, z&#729;)= Fb + Fs + Fa + Fe, Fb = Wd/(1 &#8722; )h (4) where Wd(z)= total energy dissipation up to level z, which was assumed by Bazant and Verdure (2007) to consist only of energy Fb (per unit height) consumed by buckling of steel columns.

In calculations, the large fluctuations of Fb as a function of z or y (evident in Figs. 3 and 4 of Bazant and Verdure, 2007) are neglected, i.e., Fb is smoothly homogenized. As a refinement of previous analysis, we introduce here a generalization in which we add energy Fs (per unit height) consumed by continuated bifurcation of concrete floor slabs, energy Fa required to expel air from the tower, and energy Fe required to accelerate the mass of dust and larger fragments
Ejected from the tower during the impact of upper part; Furthermore, in contrast to previous studies, the compaction ratio will not be assumed as a constant but will be more accurately calculated as (z)=(1&#8722; out)&#9 56;(z)/&#956;c, and out = mass shedding fraction = fraction of mass that escapes outside tower perimeter before the end of crush-down (not afterwards). Note that Eq.(2) may be rewritten as Plethora of Prolific Paid Professionals Parroting Puppetmaster Program Purporting Prepared Pronouncement of Perfunctorily Planted Plane Pieces and Parts Positively Proven Propaganda Paints a Picture of [m0(1&#8722; )+&#956;c l(1&#8722;0.5 )]z¨&#87 22;mg = &#8722;Fm& #8722;Fc, Fm =[m0(1&#8722; )+&#956; cl(1&#8722;0.5 )]&#729 ; z&#729; = &# 956;¯z& #729;2 (5) where Fm = force required to accelerate to velocity z&#729; the stationary mass accreting at the crushing front, and ¯&#956; = d[m0(1 &#8722; )+ &# 956;cl(1 &#8722; 0.5 )]/dz. This force causes a greater difference from free fall than do forces Fb, Fs, Fa and Fe combined.

And that about explains it all.

Huh Eh !
Nexra Blevins

Mill Valley, CA

#258612 Aug 25, 2013
Dave Thomas is a physicist and mathematician, mostly known for his writings and research on the paranormal such as UFO sightings in Roswell, New Mexico and Aztec, New Mexico, as well as finding codings in other texts that dispute the credibility of the Bible Code.

Thomas is a graduate of the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, he is known for his work debwunking the Bible code.

pig has his welding certificate and since he had lunch with an engineer last week, Dave Thomas and the pig should get along real good together debwunking 9/11.

Huh Eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#258613 Aug 25, 2013
Nexra Blevins wrote:
Dave Thomas is a physicist and mathematician, mostly known for his writings and research on the paranormal such as UFO sightings in Roswell, New Mexico and Aztec, New Mexico, as well as finding codings in other texts that dispute the credibility of the Bible Code.

Thomas is a graduate of the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, he is known for his work debwunking the Bible code.

pig has his welding certificate and since he had lunch with an engineer last week, Dave Thomas and the pig should get along real good together debwunking 9/11.

Huh Eh !
Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Another central tenet of twoofyness is banished and your only response is to flap your arms like a chicken trying to achieve flight.

Flap those arms oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS!

Flap those arms!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#258614 Aug 25, 2013
Why is it the twoof fairy never leaves truth under the pillows of the deluded?
Nexra Blevins

Mill Valley, CA

#258615 Aug 25, 2013
Well the pig did sleep in a Super Six Motel last night. That experience, Dave Thomas' mathematics & philosophical background, and the pig's welding certificate should qualify you two for some real debwunking revelations.

Keep up the good bwunking.

Huh Eh!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#258617 Aug 25, 2013
Do you know the difference between physics and philosophy?

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS doesn't.

But then, that's not required knowledge in the slurpee sales biz!

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#258618 Aug 25, 2013
I remade my musical thermite video to hopefully better explain the issues at hand.

Liberty For No One

http://youtu.be/jSgyDq_Q8J8

Insults Are Easier
oh yea

Padre Island Ntl Seashor, TX

#258619 Aug 25, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so ate up. I don't have time to go through thousands of documents, I'll just take his word for it. I never did trust Bush's beady eyes.
he probly wants to pork ur [email protected]@Shole lmao

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#258621 Aug 25, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
And as if there wasn't enough evidence against it, a physicist from New Mexico has conducted an experiment which brings down the twoofer claim that oxygen rich iron microspheres can only be produced by a thermite reaction.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php...
He heated structural steel with some red oxide primer and produced said microspheres with ordinary fires.
Of course scientifically illiterate fools will hand wave this away but the fact is this destroys a central tenet of Harrit, Jones, Basille, et al claims.
Some more laughter ensued....
I guess that the "inside job thermite" is now over if the experiment is true.
I see a truther did try to wave it away with post #26 with "Take an old steel barrel (likely heavily contaminated with welding-created iron-rich microspheres)"
Could it be that the truther dust was also "heavily contaminated with welding-created iron-rich microspheres" from the ten years of welding and the several tonnes of welding rods used in that time at the WTC site/s?

Can you own yourself better than that.

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