Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Since: Jan 11

Cold Spring Harbor, NY

#256401 Jun 13, 2013
I have half a brain and I know 9/11 was an inside job

Since: Aug 11

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#256406 Jun 13, 2013
onemale wrote:
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What is your point???
I never claimed to be an expert building demolition,
and you are not an expert either.
But unlike you I listen to experts.
The point is you listen to ignoramuses who also know nothing about building demolition but make all kinds of speculative claims.

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#256407 Jun 13, 2013
onemale wrote:
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You're showing your ignorance again, a machinist doesn't melt steel and I never claimed to be a physicist.
So as a machinist...

You would be familiar with a lathe...

Also known as a spinnie thingie...

On this spinnie thingie...

One places/secures a piece of stock (steel/wood) that one intends to 'turn' down to a specific measurement...

Metal frequently starts out either square or round...matters not to the 'spinifying machine'

This is spun up to speed...variable depending on the stock used

Let's call this 'spinifying the stuff'...

Since I do not want to appear ignorant...

Do you have a word for the cutty thingie that actually removes the metal from the spinifying stuff?...

That spinifying stuff is spinifying at some velocity...

That cutty thingie is pressed against the spinifying stuff at some particular pressure...

This creates mucho heatifying stuff...

You can spray oil on to reduce the heat and prevent the METAL from heating to the point of MELTING...

And amazingly...

This was done to steel simply with velocity and pressure...

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#256408 Jun 13, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Like armchair "experts" with no field experience talking about building demolitions. So true, so true.
Heeeyyyy...

I'm one of those armchair experts...

:-)

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#256410 Jun 13, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Either way a physicist know more about physics than you, I and most likely everyone reading this combined.
Do all physicists agree with your speculations?...

Remember...

There was a Nuke detonation at Bikini Atoll...

Castle Bravo I think it was...

I'll find the link and post...

Physicists all calculated the yield of the blast...

Expecting 4-6 Megatons...

Actual yield...15 Megatons

It was not a good thing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo

How about those physicists that second guessed the engineers and blew up the Challenger?...

Over a temperature disagreement and the effects of that on 'neoprene' resiliency...

Columbia?...

Rather than check for damage...

They allowed the crew to burn up on reentry...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#256411 Jun 14, 2013
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>So as a machinist...

You would be familiar with a lathe...

Also known as a spinnie thingie...

On this spinnie thingie...

One places/secures a piece of stock (steel/wood) that one intends to 'turn' down to a specific measurement...

Metal frequently starts out either square or round...matters not to the 'spinifying machine'

This is spun up to speed...variable depending on the stock used

Let's call this 'spinifying the stuff'...

Since I do not want to appear ignorant...

Do you have a word for the cutty thingie that actually removes the metal from the spinifying stuff?...

That spinifying stuff is spinifying at some velocity...

That cutty thingie is pressed against the spinifying stuff at some particular pressure...

This creates mucho heatifying stuff...

You can spray oil on to reduce the heat and prevent the METAL from heating to the point of MELTING...

And amazingly...

This was done to steel simply with velocity and pressure...
:-)
Anonymous

Japan

#256412 Jun 14, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Like armchair "experts" with no field experience talking about building demolitions. So true, so true.
My favorite armchair experts are those that know how historical events and wars 40+ years ago could've changed and were preventable. Typically this is when a person with common sense interjects with reasonable facts. There was no social media back then, no computers or internet. The basics were telephone, letter mail, and typewriting messages(including codebreaking). All that before even saying, hindsight is always 20/20!
Anonymous

Japan

#256413 Jun 14, 2013
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
Heeeyyyy...
I'm one of those armchair experts...
:-)
Please read my last.

In theory, everyone on here is an armchair expert to a certain extent.:)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#256414 Jun 14, 2013
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
Heeeyyyy...
I'm one of those armchair experts...
:-)
I was referring too the ones who use their degrees to promote nonsense. If you sit on a jury, you will see them.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#256415 Jun 14, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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My favorite armchair experts are those that know how historical events and wars 40+ years ago could've changed and were preventable. Typically this is when a person with common sense interjects with reasonable facts. There was no social media back then, no computers or internet. The basics were telephone, letter mail, and typewriting messages(including codebreaking). All that before even saying, hindsight is always 20/20!
Exactly!!! The factors present at the time determined the outcome. Hindsight is insanity.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#256416 Jun 14, 2013
LOL, My vote for post of the month.
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
So as a machinist...
You would be familiar with a lathe...
Also known as a spinnie thingie...
On this spinnie thingie...
One places/secures a piece of stock (steel/wood) that one intends to 'turn' down to a specific measurement...
Metal frequently starts out either square or round...matters not to the 'spinifying machine'
This is spun up to speed...variable depending on the stock used
Let's call this 'spinifying the stuff'...
Since I do not want to appear ignorant...
Do you have a word for the cutty thingie that actually removes the metal from the spinifying stuff?...
That spinifying stuff is spinifying at some velocity...
That cutty thingie is pressed against the spinifying stuff at some particular pressure...
This creates mucho heatifying stuff...
You can spray oil on to reduce the heat and prevent the METAL from heating to the point of MELTING...
And amazingly...
This was done to steel simply with velocity and pressure...
onemale

Pana, IL

#256417 Jun 14, 2013
The cutting tool you are referring to is called a carbide insert.
Carbide is the hardest metal known to mankind, therefore it is brittle so it is mixed with drill rod, commonly referred as high speed tooling.
We didn't use oil, it smokes too much, we used what was called coolant, it was an oil that mixed with water and didn't put off smoke.
The terminology of velocity is never used, it is called surface feed, which is the correct speed and feed for the type of tooling you are using, so we won't melt or weld steel.
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
So as a machinist...
You would be familiar with a lathe...
Also known as a spinnie thingie...
On this spinnie thingie...
One places/secures a piece of stock (steel/wood) that one intends to 'turn' down to a specific measurement...
Metal frequently starts out either square or round...matters not to the 'spinifying machine'
This is spun up to speed...variable depending on the stock used
Let's call this 'spinifying the stuff'...
Since I do not want to appear ignorant...
Do you have a word for the cutty thingie that actually removes the metal from the spinifying stuff?...
That spinifying stuff is spinifying at some velocity...
That cutty thingie is pressed against the spinifying stuff at some particular pressure...
This creates mucho heatifying stuff...
You can spray oil on to reduce the heat and prevent the METAL from heating to the point of MELTING...
And amazingly...
This was done to steel simply with velocity and pressure...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#256418 Jun 14, 2013
onemale wrote:
We didn't use oil, it smokes too much, we used what was called coolant, it was an oil that mixed with water and didn't put off smoke.
So you didn't use oil, but you did?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#256419 Jun 14, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>So you didn't use oil, but you did?
Technically it's a cutting fluid and not an oil but its purpose is exactly what chazmo was getting at.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#256420 Jun 14, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically it's a cutting fluid and not an oil but its purpose is exactly what chazmo was getting at.
So it's not oil and water?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#256421 Jun 14, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
So it's not oil and water?
That depends upon what material is being machined.
onemale

Pana, IL

#256422 Jun 14, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
So you didn't use oil, but you did?
I forgot I'm dealing with the mentally disabled here.
Okay we didn't use straight oil.
onemale

Pana, IL

#256423 Jun 14, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
That depends upon what material is being machined.
Not really, we used basically the same coolant.
There are different carbide grades for different types material.

Since: Aug 11

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#256424 Jun 14, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really, we used basically the same coolant.
There are different carbide grades for different types material.
So you didn't machine exotic materials. The two most common coolants are soluble oil and standard thread cutting oil. It is recommended to avoid skin exposure to both. Some materials cut better using other types of lubricants.

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#256425 Jun 14, 2013
onemale wrote:
The cutting tool you are referring to is called a carbide insert.
Carbide is the hardest metal known to mankind, therefore it is brittle so it is mixed with drill rod, commonly referred as high speed tooling.
We didn't use oil, it smokes too much, we used what was called coolant, it was an oil that mixed with water and didn't put off smoke.
The terminology of velocity is never used, it is called surface feed, which is the correct speed and feed for the type of tooling you are using, so we won't melt or weld steel.
<quoted text>
Thank you for supplying the correct terminology and bearing with my ignorance...

I note that you don't use oil...

Instead...you use coolant comprised of water and what was that?

Oh, yeah...oil

The term velocity is not used...and rightly so

Since the position of the spinifying thingie is not actually changing...

Yet the metal that is being removed...

As it is cut from the spinning stock...

Due to centrifugal force...

Travels at velocity from the stock...albeit not very far or fast

But very hot...

So hot in fact...

That coolant is used and the feed and speed must be controlled in order to prevent...

In your words...

''...so we won't melt or weld steel.''

And I'll reiterate...

Using only speed and pressure...

The speed becoming velocity once the material is cut from the stock...

And slowing to stop in the coolant...

Made up of water and...oil

So we now have in your world...

A working example of how...

Using nothing but speed (rotational)/velocity (straight line)...

And pressure...

Steel can be melted and/or welded

I thank you for you time...

:-)

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