Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255604 May 13, 2013
blur wrote:
<quoted text>
you can't show me evidence of a plane that doesn't exist, but I can show you evidence of a missile hitting the Pentagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RaK_-4j7CpsXX
I do love the comments though!

imbetterthanyouis 5 months ago

@ 27 seconds , its right over the heli pad and its way bigger than the heli pad and that in it self rules out a missile , since there isnt a missile out there that flys&#65279; like that and is that size , have another go twoofers!

eaglejoe8

This video is retarted.#1, it's clearly not the original Pentagon video in the beginning. Looks completely&#65279; fabricated, then the maker shows the exit hole in the C ring, and tries to get people to believe that's the original impact video.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255605 May 13, 2013
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the Veterans Today publication:
"Ten years later, one of the 85 suppressed videos surfaced, showing the missile hitting the Pentagon. Millions are being spent to suppress this video:"
FALSE!

The 84/ 85 figure for videos came about as the result of a FOIA request for videos showing the Pentagon impact. FBI Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire responded with the following point:
...I subsequently searched a series of FBI evidence databases, including the FBI's Electronic Case File system and the FBI's Investigative Case Management System, and determined that the FBI possessed eighty-five (85) videotapes that might be potentially responsive to plaintiff's FOIA request. This determination was based on videotapes that had been submitted into FBI evidence, sent directly to the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, and/or obtained by the FBI's Washington Field Office.
(Source images below)

The FBI are talking about 85 videos, but this is just the result of an initial search that includes (for example) all videos obtained by the Washington Field Office. If we move on from that then the numbers begin to fall dramatically.

56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11."

Of the remaining 29 videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."

Of the 13 remaining tapes, 12 "only showed the Pentagon after the impact of Flight 77."

Only one tape showed the Pentagon impact: the Pentagon's own security camera footage, that would later be released.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255606 May 13, 2013
A list of all the videotapes is available, which shows many of these videotapes do not have footage of the Pentagon at all. Instead, many have footage of the WTC, some are security video tapes taken from a Kinko's in Florida, etc. Some that show the Pentagon were taken days after the attacks, and some in the evening of 9/11/2001.

The security camera footage taken from around the Pentagon included the Citgo, the Doubletree, and the Pentagon parking lot. There was also video from cameras at Reagan National Airport parking garage. Both video files show smoke in the distance coming from direction of Pentagon. Another video came from a DEA HQ security camera atop 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA. The camera was repositioned after attack to show post-crash footage of Pentagon.

Footage taken after the attack included home video filmed by a tourist traveling past Pentagon and then by AP photographer who borrowed the camera, and video taken by a NBC4 Washington reporter...

The list of 85 videos

Five videotapes were recovered from the post-attack Pentagon crime scene and submitted to the FBI Laboratory in Quantico.
13 videos were obtained by the Defense Protective Services (DPS)- Pentagon Police - on 9/25/2001 from individual filming Pentagon site from Boundary Channel Drive. These included footage from the WTC site in the days after the attcks.

One (1) Beta video tape - interviews in NYC
One (1) DVCAM tape labeled "Twin Towers, World Trade Center" - NYC/WTC
One (1) DVCAM tape - suburban setting, unknown individuals, dated 9/12-13
One (1) DVCAM tape - NYC/WTC, 9/21-22
One (1) DVCAM tape - NYC/WTC, 9/22-23
One (1) DVCAM tape - NYC 9/23
One (1) DVCAM tape - interviews in NYC; 10 seconds of Pentagon footage, but not crash site
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
One (1) DVCAM tape - no recorded video or audio information
8 videos were received on 10/11/2001 at Quantico. These videos were collected during consent search of residence in Avanel, New Jersey. Pending case on subject.
One (1) damaged Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
One (1) Sony MP-120 8mm video tape
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255607 May 13, 2013
Videos received on 10/15/2001 at Quantico. These videos were collected from surveillance cameras at multiple Kinko's in South Florida.

One (1) TDK 1-160 VHS video tape
One (1) VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape
One (1) SONY T-160 VHS video tape

Video received on 10/22/2001 at Quantico. This video was recovered from garbage at residenced in Neenah, Wisconsin by the Neenah Police Department. Investigation on suspect has been closed.

One (1) damaged VHS video tape and housing

Received at Washington Field Office Command Post

These two video tapes included footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene taken by DOD media pool photographers, and were obtained from Navy Rear Admiral Craig Quigley.

One (1) Betacam BCT-30G video cassette, labeled "1 of 2" & "early 6pm 9/11/01"
One (1) Betacam BCT-30G video cassette, labeled "2 of 2" & "early pm 9/11/01"

Also received at the Washington Field Office Command Post:

One (1) VHS video cassette - witness interviews near Pentagon after the attack
One (1) VHS video cassette, labeled "9/11/2001" - footage of post Pentagon crime scene, obtained from Chief Mastin, Prince William County
One (1) TDK Hi8 MP 120 video casette, wrapped in Pentagon map and labeled on back "1/29/1952 Mohan Shresesa 8/2/2018 Todoroki Japan 9/17/01 3:00 hr Fern/So. Rotary" - Home video taken from car, dated 9/17/2001,showing post-crash Pentagon crime scene very briefly from road (~10 seconds)
One (1) FujiFilm DP121 video cassette, labeled "WJLA-TV" - miscellaneous footage from news reporter, dated 9/18/2001
One (1) Sony MP120 8mm video cassette - Home video, DC sightseeing
One (1) TDK HG Ultimate TC-30 video cassette - Home video, unknown date, showing brief footage of Pentagon (not crash site)
One (1) Maxell DVM60SE mini digital video cassette - Home video, dated 9/17/2001, showing brief footage of Pentagon (not crash site)
One (1) Sony Hi8 video cassette - Home video obtained by DPS on 9/11/2001 showing ~6 seconds of Pentagon footage (not crash site)
One (1) TDK Hi8 MP 120 video cassette - Home video obtained by DPS on 9/21/2001, showing post-crash Pentagon crime scene
One (1) JVC MP120 8mm video cassette - Home video obtained by DPS on 9/21/2001, showing brief footage of Pentagon (not crash site)

Videos filmed on 9/26/2001 by FBI Forensic Audio-Visual Analysis Unit (FAVIAU) of post-crash Pentagon crime scene.

One (1) original SONY 40 min. Digital Betacam video tape
One (1) original SONY 40 min. Digital Betacam video tape
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255608 May 13, 2013
Videos submitted to FBI Laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, under cover of communication dated 2/19/2002, all depicting WTC footage.

One (1) Betacam video tape
One (1) HDCAM video tape
One (1) Betacam SP video tape
One (1) Betacam SP video tape
One (1) Mini DV video tape maked in part Antonio M.
One (1) DVC PRO video tape
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1056 COPY 5A of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1056 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1471 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1788 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1729 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1808 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1813 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B530 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B729 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1563 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1051 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1787 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B2406 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "1B1276 COPY 5 of 5"
One VHS video tape marked in part "CNN RE: BURN VICTIM..."
One VHS video tape marked in part "NIGHTLINE 2/15/2002"
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255609 May 13, 2013
Videos submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico, under communication dated 5/13/2002.

One (1) Sony SDX1-25C video tape
One (1) Sony SDX1-25C video tape
One (1) TDK 8mm video tape

Video obtained by FBI on 9/28/2001 and submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico on 5/28/2002. Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 showing footage of WTC after attacks, obtained by Suffolk County, New York Police Department.

One Hi 8mm video cassette tape from Eileen McMahon

Video obtained by FBI on 9/13/2001 and submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico on 5/28/2002. Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 showing footage of second plane hitting WTC and aftermath.

One Mini DV 60 video cassette tape

Video submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico under cover of communication dated 9/22/2001. Obtained by FBI NK from Dime Savings Bank, Nutley, New Jersey

One TDK T-160 VHS video tape

Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by NBC4 Washington reporter, with footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) home Video of the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.

Video from DEA HQ security camera atop 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA. Camera repositioned after attack to show post-crash footage of Pentagon. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) videotape

Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by tourist traveling past Pentagon and then by AP photographer who borrowed the camera. Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) videotape

Copy of home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by AP photographer using camera borrowed from nearby motorist. Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.

One (1) duplicate video cassette tape dated 9/11/01

Video from cameras at Reagan National Airport parking garage. Both video files show smoke in the distance coming from direction of Pentagon. Obtained by FBI on 9/13/2001.

One (1) CD containing 2 video files

Video from security camera at Citgo Gas Station, 801 S. Joyce Street, Arlington, Virginia. Submitted to FAVIAU to determine if video showed impact of plane into Pentagon. Determined not to show impact. Obtained by FBI on 9/11/2001.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255610 May 13, 2013
One (1) JVC EHG Hi-Fi videocassette, labeled Day 11 Quarters K

Video from security camera at Doubletree Hotel, 300 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, Virginia. Security video showing rotating footage from different camera locations at hotel; no camera captures impact of plane into Pentagon.

One (1) TDK video tape marked "11C"

Images captured by two separate cameras at the entrance to the Pentagon Mall Terrace parkinng lot. Images capture the impact of the plane into the Pentagon from two different cameras. Obtained from the Pentagon Force Protection Agency via USA/EDVA.

One (1) CD-ROM
http://web.archive.org/web/20080208102217/htt...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255611 May 13, 2013
But Jessie does blow you a kiss for posting.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploa...
onemale wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the Veterans Today publication:
"Ten years later, one of the 85 suppressed videos surfaced, showing the missile hitting the Pentagon. Millions are being spent to suppress this video:"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/09/911-p...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#255613 May 13, 2013
blur wrote:
<quoted text>
you can't show me evidence of a plane that doesn't exist, but I can show you evidence of a missile hitting the Pentagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RaK_-4j7CpsXX
LOL, THIS EVIDENCE IS SO WORTH WATCHING, IT'S A HOOT.

And further videos by the same person such as this.

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WW3 starts March 7-8, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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I must have been napping.

“Dying 4 ur sins-so tell me”

Since: Jan 09

Fort Worth

#255614 May 13, 2013
Myrandy Cumgrove wrote:
To the idiots who still do not "Get it".
To the idiots who still do not know the truth.
Please do not reproduce. Please do not reproduce.
Repetitive useless opinions only prove lack of class,lack of knowledge , and allowed reproduction by your opinion.Please keep these immature statements to yourself. However,Should you have anything of substance to add to the 911 conspiracy thread I would be happy to engage in an intellectual conversation . Obviously intelligence isn't a requirement for posting here but to expedite a response from one of the few real individuals, intelligent enough to provide a valid answer ,a high school type education or g.e.d. level statement helps immensely.
sorry Charlie

Logan, WV

#255615 May 13, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Videos submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico, under communication dated 5/13/2002.
One (1) Sony SDX1-25C video tape
One (1) Sony SDX1-25C video tape
One (1) TDK 8mm video tape
Video obtained by FBI on 9/28/2001 and submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico on 5/28/2002. Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 showing footage of WTC after attacks, obtained by Suffolk County, New York Police Department.
One Hi 8mm video cassette tape from Eileen McMahon
Video obtained by FBI on 9/13/2001 and submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico on 5/28/2002. Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 showing footage of second plane hitting WTC and aftermath.
One Mini DV 60 video cassette tape
Video submitted to FBI Laboratory, Quantico under cover of communication dated 9/22/2001. Obtained by FBI NK from Dime Savings Bank, Nutley, New Jersey
One TDK T-160 VHS video tape
Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by NBC4 Washington reporter, with footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.
One (1) home Video of the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.
Video from DEA HQ security camera atop 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA. Camera repositioned after attack to show post-crash footage of Pentagon. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.
One (1) videotape
Home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by tourist traveling past Pentagon and then by AP photographer who borrowed the camera. Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.
One (1) videotape
Copy of home video filmed on 9/11/2001 by AP photographer using camera borrowed from nearby motorist. Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene shortly after attack. Provided to FBI on 9/12/2001.
One (1) duplicate video cassette tape dated 9/11/01
Video from cameras at Reagan National Airport parking garage. Both video files show smoke in the distance coming from direction of Pentagon. Obtained by FBI on 9/13/2001.
One (1) CD containing 2 video files
Video from security camera at Citgo Gas Station, 801 S. Joyce Street, Arlington, Virginia. Submitted to FAVIAU to determine if video showed impact of plane into Pentagon. Determined not to show impact. Obtained by FBI on 9/11/2001.
they must pay you a lot of money for all the bwunking you do on a daily basis...there is no question about how dedicated you are to the job...all the others have abandoned the sinking ship, yet here you are still fighting despite getting your ass kicked every day on this site. I give you credit for your perseverance.
sorry Charlie

Logan, WV

#255616 May 13, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
I do love the comments though!
imbetterthanyouis 5 months ago
@ 27 seconds , its right over the heli pad and its way bigger than the heli pad and that in it self rules out a missile , since there isnt a missile out there that flys&#65279; like that and is that size , have another go twoofers!

eaglejoe8
This video is retarted.#1, it's clearly not the original Pentagon video in the beginning. Looks completely&#65279; fabricated, then the maker shows the exit hole in the C ring, and tries to get people to believe that's the original impact video.
and those comments are credible because?...kind of reminds me of the comments from you and your ilk

“Dying 4 ur sins-so tell me”

Since: Jan 09

Fort Worth

#255617 May 13, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
FALSE!
The 84/ 85 figure for videos came about as the result of a FOIA request for videos showing the Pentagon impact. FBI Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire responded with the following point:
...I subsequently searched a series of FBI evidence databases, including the FBI's Electronic Case File system and the FBI's Investigative Case Management System, and determined that the FBI possessed eighty-five (85) videotapes that might be potentially responsive to plaintiff's FOIA request. This determination was based on videotapes that had been submitted into FBI evidence, sent directly to the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, and/or obtained by the FBI's Washington Field Office.
(Source images below)
The FBI are talking about 85 videos, but this is just the result of an initial search that includes (for example) all videos obtained by the Washington Field Office. If we move on from that then the numbers begin to fall dramatically.
56 "of these videotapes did not show either the Pentagon building, the Pentagon crash site, or the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11."
Of the remaining 29 videotapes, 16 "did not show the Pentagon crash site and did not show the impact of Flight 77 into the Pentagon."
Of the 13 remaining tapes, 12 "only showed the Pentagon after the impact of Flight 77."
Only one tape showed the Pentagon impact: the Pentagon's own security camera footage, that would later be released.



Of the 13 remaining tapes, 12 "only showed the Pentagon after the impact of Flight 77."

Amazingly any footage before the impact of flight 77 has not been found. I bet they use motion cameras with a time delay start in these videos . How else would these cameras switch on "after" the impact?

TristanM

Monroe, LA

#255618 May 13, 2013
da plane wrote:
<quoted text>
how about you show me one image from one camera at or near the Pentagon that clearly shows a plane (not a blur or trail of smoke) hitting the Pentagon?
Let's see, we have photo's and we have eye dozens of eye witnesses.

Let's list what you have .....

..... I thought so!
TristanM

Monroe, LA

#255619 May 13, 2013
blur wrote:
<quoted text>
people lie, cameras don't...and there are endless amount of liars in this world, you and your crew especially
but at least we agree that the blur does not count as evidence of a plane
you can't show me evidence of a plane that doesn't exist, but I can show you evidence of a missile hitting the Pentagon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =RaK_-4j7CpsXX
So tell us here, how many people were in on this secret you say there is!

Already we have air traffic controlers, eye witnesses, reporters, saying it was a plane. The several thousand people employed in the Pentagon. So were have atleast several thousand people directly and their families indirectly now keeping this secret. In a city where 2 people couldn't keep a blowjob a secret!

And you think you and video from some unknown person know the real story!
TristanM

Monroe, LA

#255620 May 13, 2013
sorry Charlie wrote:
<quoted text>
they must pay you a lot of money for all the bwunking you do on a daily basis...there is no question about how dedicated you are to the job...all the others have abandoned the sinking ship, yet here you are still fighting despite getting your ass kicked every day on this site. I give you credit for your perseverance.
We haven't abandoned anything, just the quality of SO CALLED truther is falling! 10 years still posting the same crap, with nothing new or original. Every time you claim the smoking gun proof, it turns out false, misleading, or damn right bogus!

So how much is Alex Jones and crew paying you to keep this up!

You do realize Alex Jones made millions off you SO CALLED truthers and your lack of independent thought!

You do realize the laughing trio of Loose Change made millions off you SO CALLED truthers with your 'I believe anything I'm told' mentality!

You do realize every major so called leader of the 9/11 Truth movement made millions off you people who have no ability to reason and research anything on your own!
TristanM

Monroe, LA

#255621 May 13, 2013
crucifiedguy wrote:
<quoted text>
Of the 13 remaining tapes, 12 "only showed the Pentagon after the impact of Flight 77."
Amazingly any footage before the impact of flight 77 has not been found. I bet they use motion cameras with a time delay start in these videos . How else would these cameras switch on "after" the impact?
Actually those videos didn't show shit of anything but what they were suppose to be covering!

You should research security camera systems of the day, understand the frames per sec ratio to number of cameras on those systems.

But doing that takes research, something you are not capable of doing!

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#255622 May 13, 2013
TristanM wrote:
<quoted text>Actually those videos didn't show shit of anything but what they were suppose to be covering!

You should research security camera systems of the day, understand the frames per sec ratio to number of cameras on those systems.

But doing that takes research, something you are not capable of doing!
Imagine that, eh? The unanswered questions remain unanswered and these people still ask the same questions a decade later... It's crazy to not accept cover-ups. Patriots don't question.

How many people saw the plane fly into the Pentagon? Hundreds, reduced to dozens, then we find one witness who admitted to being coerced by powerful people to lie.

The cab driver admits the Pentagon was staged.

http://youtu.be/kvyQ0vVwjqc

Im sure he was the only one who experienced coercion.

Yes, people should go look up 2000 to 2001 off the shelf camera technology and assume our high priority defense installations were protected with gear purchased at Radio Shack. The military didn't have the funding to use high tech gear, and high capacity hard drives to store the data was too expensive for them.

You know the US military has a history of being frugal.

And thermate wasn't checked for because it couldn't cut sideways and would take thousands of pounds to weaken all the floors. Never mind the fact that none of this is true, and the fact the official story claims a couple of floors were heated by fire and that localized collapse led to a global, symmetrical collapse.

And who needs evidence anyway? All we need is computers that can simulate fires set with zero thermal conductivity and other highly unlikely parameters to reach NISTs probable collapse scenario.

So be good slaves and stop asking questions, and remember the government is too incompetent to do things to hurt it's own people so it can gain more control.

And remember

Insults Are Easier

“Turn left at pub Number 42”

Since: Dec 08

Homehill,QLD

#255623 May 13, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>

How many people saw the plane fly into the Pentagon?
well in the video we have the "witness flightpath illustrations" at 14:54 of the plane they seen all going directly to the Pentagon.

But the plane flew over the Pentagon and a curse missile was hot on it heels..right?
Insults Are Easier wrote:
The cab driver admits the Pentagon was staged.
http://youtu.be/kvyQ0vVwjqc
I must of missed the part when he admits the MIB rammed a light pole into his car,scattered pieces of deberies about with no witnesses.

Bent pole,no damage to hood?
Dont suppose the arch of the pole was pointing skywards and therefore not touching the hood?

Thanks for the laugh
MrTaints

Logan, WV

#255624 May 13, 2013
TristanM wrote:
<quoted text>
We haven't abandoned anything, just the quality of SO CALLED truther is falling! 10 years still posting the same crap, with nothing new or original. Every time you claim the smoking gun proof, it turns out false, misleading, or damn right bogus!
So how much is Alex Jones and crew paying you to keep this up!
You do realize Alex Jones made millions off you SO CALLED truthers and your lack of independent thought!
You do realize the laughing trio of Loose Change made millions off you SO CALLED truthers with your 'I believe anything I'm told' mentality!
You do realize every major so called leader of the 9/11 Truth movement made millions off you people who have no ability to reason and research anything on your own!
12 years of unquestioningly slurping the official govie fairytale in its entirety, you shills remain unwavering in your devotion to your masters. Every shred of evidence disproving the official story completely ignored with a wave of the hand. Do you realize the trillions the government has made in the illegal wars of occupation and conquest which you shills have supported because you have no ability to reason and research anything on your own!

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